Would you be concerned about impact shift with the wood stock?The hunt is on 10/17.I have only been using synthetic stocks on western and Alasken hunts but I just bought a Kimber Select in 7-08 and would like to use it.What do you think?

I don't see any problem. Shoot that thing!

Don't be concerned, it's been done thousands upon tousands of times. If you were in an area for more than a couple days/weeks in rain and snow it may matter a bit than.

No worries!

Never heard of anyone having a problem out here.

The difference is if you lived someplace remarkably humid, it might shift when it get's to old dry Wyoming

I have used both wood and glass stocked guns on tons of hunts. Especially in Alaska while living in Wyoming and in Wyoming while living in Barrow Alaska.

I have never gone from a humid place to a wet one or vice versa.

I live in Ohio. I sight my rifles in in Ohio. I've taken my woodstocked Ruger 270 to Colorado, Kansas, Wyoming, and Utah.

I've killed mule deer and antelope, no problems. Longest shot was 254 yards.

I'm taking this rifle to TX the first week of Oct for antelope/hogs.

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Originally posted by Rsm458Lott:
Would you be concerned about impact shift with the wood stock?

Absolutely, positively 100%.

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The hunt is on 10/17.I have only been using synthetic stocks on western and Alasken hunts but I just bought a Kimber Select in 7-08 and would like to use it.What do you think?

Termite Food is similar to a slowly reacting Sponge to water. It is either taking water in or letting it out all the time.

No doubt lots of Game has been Killed with Termite Food stocks. And also no doubt lots of Termite Food stocks warp when the internal Moisture Content changes either + or -.

Since yours is "new", you really don't know what it will do. If you take it and wound or miss, at least you will have a legitimate excuse. Or, perhaps it would not be legitimate now that you have been warned.

Good Hunting and clean 1-shot Kills.

Termite food! That is fantastic!

Your my hero! Let's go kill some stuff!

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Originally posted by D99:
The difference is if you lived someplace remarkably humid, it might shift when it get's to old dry Wyoming

No bones. I took a Remington 700 from Connecticut to Montana and it shifted four inches. I didn't dare use it because I didn't know if it was the stock or the scope, put it back in the truck and got out 'old faithful'. Now that rifle is in a synthetic with an aluminum bedding block (from a barrel in a CT rifle shop) and it's impervious.

Give me a break! I hunted in WY for 15 years on straight from TN and OK with a real rifle featuring blued steel and wood w/o a problem. Prior to that I make several trips to the Rockies in CO. No probs.
Sorry, no Star Wars Junque for me. One has to wonder how folks muddled along and kept themselves fed before this Mattel crap came along? Maybe they knew how to take care of their rifles? What do you think?

I should mention that my rifle is glass bedded. I've never seen any change in POI when we travel from state to state.

Also, since 2003, this rifle has only fired the 130 TSX on game.

I cannot explain why there is no change in impact other than it was carefully bedded. But, it works for me.

Curiously, the change in altitude had no effect either, and we try to always test fire to 300 yards before hunting.

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Originally posted by stillbeeman:
Give me a break! I hunted in WY for 15 years on straight from TN and OK with a real rifle featuring blued steel and wood w/o a problem. Prior to that I make several trips to the Rockies in CO. No probs.
Sorry, no Star Wars Junque for me. One has to wonder how folks muddled along and kept themselves fed before this Mattel crap came along? Maybe they knew how to take care of their rifles? What do you think?

I think every rifle is different; the stock I had trouble with is gone. 'Old Faithful' is a model 70 in a wood stock,
not glass-bedded, and has always shot the same point of impact whether in wet Alaska or dry Montana.

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Originally posted by stillbeeman:
...One has to wonder how folks muddled along and kept themselves fed before this Mattel crap came along? Maybe they knew how to take care of their rifles? What do you think?

I think you made an excellent point. The Termite Food does not always warp in a direction that creates a problem, but it always warps. And some folks keep their shots close enough that if it only warps enough to move the Point-of-Impact a small amount(less than 6"-8") they may never realize it is happening.

Happens a lot with Rookies!
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Had a good buddy that I shot Deer with all year long on Depredation Permits(we still call them Predation Permits though) and you could see the POI shift on the Deer as the weather changed, because he always shot for the exact same spot.

3-4 of us got together and bought him a RamLine stock. Also had to put the Recoil Pad on yourself back then and I got that done.

We all got together, had a bit of Liquid Corn, tied him to a chair, swapped the stocks and tossed his old Termite Food one in the Burn Barrel. It did just fine in there.

Wood stocks are all I've hunted big game with. They work. Use it and ignore the rabble chatter.

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wood stock rifle for Oct antelope hunt in Wyoming

It's all I ever use.....I must say however that they are fully glassed and warp is extremely rare....I also shoot them a day or two before I go to make sure all is well.....and it almost always is.

Wood is always doing something, from the time it's cut until the time it is ashes wood is always doing something.

I personally like laminate the best, but it's kind of ugly if you don't like it. Laminate is the toughest, strongest, but not as stable as a solid piece of fiberglass and resin.

The injection molded stocks come in lots of variables, and some are good, some are crap.

Fiberglass is the same, and so are the high tech things like carbon fiber, aramid, kevlar, and chopped glass.

Walnut is always walnut and always doing something!

The most accurate walnut rifle I own is a Blaser K95, the most innaccurate rifle I own is a Steyr-Mannlicher with a full stock. That full stock can really do a number on things when the barrel heats up.

Well sorry to tell you Hot Core - synthetic stocks warp too. Doesn't need a huge amount of heat - a black painted McMillan in desert is going to get hotter than is reccomended by stock finishers who know how hot each manafacturer can get before warping.

A wooden stock might be more prone to POI shifts but I'd take a quality, well inlet and bedded wood stock over an off the shelf drop in injection moulded any day for reliability. Hell the Steyr Pro Hunter had to go to a Mark 2 to get the fore end stiff.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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wood stock rifle for Oct antelope hunt in Wyoming

It's all I ever use.....I must say however that they are fully glassed and warp is extremely rare....I also shoot them a day or two before I go to make sure all is well.....and it almost always is.

Another good point, I always find somewhere to check POI when I get to the area I'm going to hunt, if only a gully with a dirt bank. I knew about the warped stock before we ever saw any mule deer, and had already switched rifles before we went out looking for them.

If your going to worry about it the whole trip it would be better to take a synthetic stock.

For me, I almost always take a wood stocked gun and have never had a problem.

ddj

I'd take a good shooting wood stock rifle out West. I do prefer synthetic, but I've used a wood stocked 06 for antelope w/o a hitch(455 yards ).

We always drive for CO and WY hunts. Our rifles are checked for zero here at home at 300' elevation and high humidity, placed in a hard case, and the zeros have stayed the same for us. We don't even check zeros when we get there. It's been working for years with many animals successfully taken out to past 400 w/o a bit of a problem.

I'm headed for WY Saturday. Checked zero on one of my 7RMs a couple days ago, placed two shots in a 3/4" bulls eye at 220 yds, put it back in the hard case, and will not take it out until the season opener next Monday. I guess now I have an excuse if I miss

Good Luck

Reloader

I don't see the issue. I do it every year. Gun care is the important thing.

I hunt in Wyoming every year with a wood/blue gun and have never had a problem. No movement at all. I travel from OK.

I have hunted for 60 years with a wood stock and blued metal guns and from Alaska to Tanzania and most countries in the world...I have yet to have a wood stock warp...I have had scope problems, function problems, trigger failures, feeding problems and one mud dobber barrel bulge, but no warped stocks..

I am not saying it can't happen and I suggest that on factory guns that you have them glass bedded from tang to forend tip as good insurance...Most factory wood has been rushed iin the curing process and may take a year or two to settle, bottom line is it's the cheap stuff..

On a Custom stock, be sure that you use properly dried and cured wood with a proper grain pattern for a hunting rifle and that means grain running from heel to forend in a straight or slightly upward direction with those lines straight on top of the blank and from the butt section, and very dense wood lacking a lot of pores such as Circasian walnut, French walnut, thin shelled tree stuff..At least that is what I do and I still glass the recoil lug and tang after I have completely inletted the rifle, at least on my personal guns...

I also agree that "care" is a big word in this debate..care of blueing with a daily wipe down of light oil or even dry. and wood inspection and a good wipe off..Not a tough job, but I do know folks too damn lazy to do this or just don't care and for the SS and plastic is them the SS and plastic way to go. To me SS and plastic is cold, no warmth, and looks like my car bumper or my wifes can openner.

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Originally posted by Rsm458Lott:
Would you be concerned about impact shift with the wood stock?The hunt is on 10/17.I have only been using synthetic stocks on western and Alasken hunts but I just bought a Kimber Select in 7-08 and would like to use it.What do you think?

I think that antelope have been getting killed with wood-stocked rifles a lot longer than they have been getting killed with synthetic-stocked rifles.