OK, we bought some property that gets mulies moving across it from time to time.

Is it posible to train mulies to come to timered feeders like whitetails?

And if so, shelled corn or what?

You need to ask the Game and Fish Department that has jurisdiction over your new property whether or not it is legal for you to be feeding those deer.

Some states frown on such things.

Yes, check the regs. The game departments in the west from what I have seen, generally frown upon stuff like this.

What the hell, why not just pay someone to shoot those Mulies for you too???? Sure beats getting off your ass and actually hunting.

I'm sure you're enjoying the sermons, but to answer your question, yes, mule deer will come to feeders much like whitetails (and hogs, and turkeys, and nearly anything else that likes to eat corn.) How quickly they come and how frequently depends on how much quality forage is available to them otherwise. Mule deer seem not to like to "socialize" with other species, so if you have a lot of whitetails in the area you may find that mule deer do not frequent the feeders as regularly.

Watch out for your local Accurate Reloading PC and Thought Police.They like to jump to conclusions with no facts.

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Watch out for your local Accurate Reloading PC and Thought Police.They like to jump to conclusions with no facts.

Fact, not all states permit such activities. Look in the catalogs or on the net. Places that sell the feeders and feed advise checking with local authorities first before starting up such an activity.

I do not know of any states that do not allow private property owners to feed deer on their property. Now, "hunting" those feeders is something different entirely.

505 then you haven't looked into it.

Wyoming prohibits feeding deer, and the practice is also illegal in several other western states.

You guys obviously aren't farmers or ranchers. There are no laws that prohibit planting cover crops on your property that wildlife like and will be attracted to. The big thing in the West is water, feed and cover (habitat). If you have those 3, you will have game. Using only feeders is chicken shit.

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Originally posted by MOA TACTICAL:
505 then you haven't looked into it.

Wyoming prohibits feeding deer, and the practice is also illegal in several other western states.

There's a lot of things Fats hasn't looked into and doesn't know about. But in his mind he and his brother will always be right. That's a trait common to trust fund babies. Had the world kissin' their ass for so long they mistake that for actual knowledge and intelligence.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
I do not know of any states that do not allow private property owners to feed deer on their property. Now, "hunting" those feeders is something different entirely.

Then you don't know about Idaho's regulation prohibiting such activity as per their web site:

https://fishandgame.idaho.gov/...ble-bait-deer-or-elk

They do enforce that regulation on public land (which we have a tremendous amount of here in Idaho) and on private property. They have been enforcing game laws on private property from day 1 and it applies to the hunter and the land owner who "baits".

Your defense of doing such on private property is a strong losing position but you may wish to try it out here in Idaho.

When it comes to baiting for waterfowl the Department is very aggressive in enforcing "baiting" of grains. If the hunter knows or should have known about the baiting he becomes a candidate for a coupon and the land owner is also cited for illegal feeding of wildlife. They don't mess around here on this issue because it can be very effective.

Now, have farmers been "careless" in harvesting their grain crops? Yes, but a "tornado" of ducks or geese to a field will have them marching out to investigate.

I'd do it unless they say you can not FEED them. Hunting them over bait is a whole other thing. Enjoy your land!

Perry

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Originally posted by prairielight2:
What the hell, why not just pay someone to shoot those Mulies for you too???? Sure beats getting off your ass and actually hunting.

Easy there lightintheloafers2, he did not say anything about shooting them at feeders.

Perry

Wow! Look at all the folks on here getting their exercise jumping to conclusions

The question was, can it be done? Mostly we'd just like to sit on the porch and watch them.

And this is in Arizona; whether it's legal in Wyoming or Idaho isn't really relevant.

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505 then you haven't looked into it.

Wyoming prohibits feeding deer, and the practice is also illegal in several other western states.

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Then you don't know about Idaho's regulation prohibiting such activity as per their web site:

https://fishandgame.idaho.gov/...ble-bait-deer-or-elk

They do enforce that regulation on public land (which we have a tremendous amount of here in Idaho) and on private property. They have been enforcing game laws on private property from day 1 and it applies to the hunter and the land owner who "baits".

Your defense of doing such on private property is a strong losing position but you may wish to try it out here in Idaho.

When it comes to baiting for waterfowl the Department is very aggressive in enforcing "baiting" of grains. If the hunter knows or should have known about the baiting he becomes a candidate for a coupon and the land owner is also cited for illegal feeding of wildlife. They don't mess around here on this issue because it can be very effective.

Now, have farmers been "careless" in harvesting their grain crops? Yes, but a "tornado" of ducks or geese to a field will have them marching out to investigate.

MOA / Teancum,

Thanks for the info, now I know of some.

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There's a lot of things Fats hasn't looked into and doesn't know about. But in his mind he and his brother will always be right. That's a trait common to trust fund babies. Had the world kissin' their ass for so long they mistake that for actual knowledge and intelligence.

As displayed by your ignorance in this statement, there is a lot you do not know as well. But hey, whatever makes your government workfare takin' ass feel better. I do like how you jump everytime I holler, good doggy.

I would worry about CWD.

Ron

Any possibility of getting back to my original question instead of ????

This is in ARIZONA. Wyoming and Idaho are not in ARIZONA. They are different states entirely!

AZGFD's website says: In 2006, the Arizona Legislature passed a “no feeding wildlife” law, making it illegal to feed wildlife (except birds and tree squirrels) in Pima and Maricopa counties.

This is not in Pima County or in Maricopa County. It is in a whole different county called MOHAVE, which as I said, is neither in Wyoming nor in Idaho but is in ARIZONA.

Is this helping with the parameters of the question "Can you train mule deer to come to feeders like whitetails?"

Correction (I think), MOA, I have reviewed Wyomings Statutes and cannot find anything referencing it being illegal to feed deer on private property unless it is hunted. I have also contacted Wyoming Game and Fish as well and they cannot guide me to anything stating that it is illegal to feed deer on private property. I would be interested to know what you know. I have included a link below to save you some time.

Wyoming Legislative Services Office

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Originally posted by LRH270:
Any possibility of getting back to my original question instead of ????

This is in ARIZONA. Wyoming and Idaho are not in ARIZONA. They are different states entirely!

AZGFD's website says: In 2006, the Arizona Legislature passed a “no feeding wildlife” law, making it illegal to feed wildlife (except birds and tree squirrels) in Pima and Maricopa counties.

This is not in Pima County or in Maricopa County. It is in a whole different county called MOHAVE, which as I said, is neither in Wyoming nor in Idaho but is in ARIZONA.

Is this helping with the parameters of the question "Can you train mule deer to come to feeders like whitetails?"

Yes. I know of numerous ranches in West Tx that protein feed the herds. I would assume if they would come into creep feeders, broadcast feeders would be no different. They should love corn.

Depending on your water supply a line could be run on a float to a trough for attraction also.

Perry

Teancum, the link you provided was in reference to baiting animals for hunting, not feeding animals for other purposes. Perhaps you could offer a link to the statutes supporting your statement in Idaho. This is starting to feel like deer camp.

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I would worry about CWD.

Ron

Ron, I do notknow about CWd w/deer but there are some specific laws in Wyoming that deal with feeding elk in close proximity to livestock, I believe the concern there is transmission of brucellosis (sp?)

Thank you perry. Yes, a tank/pond is part of the equation...

I used my bird feeder as a deer feeder. The mulies would come in to it all hours. I enjoyed watching them. Not sure if if was good for them as grain isn't always a staple for them here. The old Holiday Inn Safari Club, now Days Inn Safari club, has a big bird feeder by the dinning room, that is lighted, and deer would come to it. It was enjoyable to sit and have dinner in the dead of winter, by a nice fireplace and watch the deer come and go. He used cracked corn. I used Walmart bird feed.

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Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
I do not know of any states that do not allow private property owners to feed deer on their property. Now, "hunting" those feeders is something different entirely.

Brad - I haven't read all the posts here, but let me assure you. It is 100% illegal here in Colorado to feed big game. Food plots (planted in the ground are legal, but any type of feeding, feeders, even mineral placement designed for big game, is totally illegal at anytime of the year.

Yes, except for bear. The Arizona Game and Fish Department does not allow you to use any substance to attract bears. Different federal land agencies, such as the U.S. Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service may have restrictions against the use of salt or other bait as an attractant for wildlife. If hunting these lands, contact those land management agencies to verify the legalities of attractants.



That is from the AZ G&FD. So AZ says yes, but BLM, USF&W and Parks service all have jurisdiction you'd have to check on as well.

"Easy there lightintheloafers2, he did not say anything about shooting them at feeders."


Well you're right about that, PoorPissyPerry. And he's cleared that up.

"Mostly we'd just like to sit on the porch and watch them."

I'd guess that shooting them at the feeders is more your style.

My apologies to LRH270.

put in a pivot and grow alfalfa
you'll bring'em in by the dozen.
A solid water source in Arizona? I would think would be a great start.
don't know what the local deer density is but you
could camera the water and decide how to proceed.

Instead of enlisting all the experts and consulants, why don't you just bring in the amatuers- Call the Arizona G&f and ask.

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Originally posted by prairielight2:
"Easy there lightintheloafers2, he did not say anything about shooting them at feeders."


Well you're right about that, PoorPissyPerry. And he's cleared that up.

"Mostly we'd just like to sit on the porch and watch them."

I'd guess that shooting them at the feeders is more your style.

My apologies to LRH270.

Great, just what we need. The new guy is the only one confused but states that LR has "cleared things up".

Brilliant! Instead of stinking up his thread you should have kept your ignorant comments to your self. And the name...really...you can't do any better than that. Shooting deer over feeders...em, who? Weak prairie dog...weak

Perry

Just plant some apple trees, or corn, or alfalfa, or roses, or any number of things, the list is long

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
Yes, except for bear. The Arizona Game and Fish Department does not allow you to use any substance to attract bears. Different federal land agencies, such as the U.S. Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management or the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service may have restrictions against the use of salt or other bait as an attractant for wildlife. If hunting these lands, contact those land management agencies to verify the legalities of attractants.



That is from the AZ G&FD. So AZ says yes, but BLM, USF&W and Parks service all have jurisdiction you'd have to check on as well.

The passage cited above is in answer to this question:

Can I hunt with an attractant or bait for big game?


It doesn't apply here. It is legal to feed ANY wildlife in AZ as long as it isn't done in PIMA or MARICOPA counties. Birds and squirrels are excepted in those counties, however. See law below.

13-2927. Unlawful feeding of wildlife; classification

A. A person commits unlawful feeding of wildlife by intentionally, knowingly or recklessly feeding, attracting or otherwise enticing wildlife into an area, except for:

1. Persons lawfully taking or holding wildlife pursuant to title 17 or pursuant to rules or orders of the Arizona game and fish commission.

2. Public employees or authorized agents acting within the scope of their authority for public safety or for wildlife management purposes.

3. Normal agricultural or livestock operational practices.

4. Tree squirrels or birds.

B. This section applies in a county with a population of more than two hundred eighty thousand persons.

C. Unlawful feeding of wildlife is a petty offense.

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There is also no law that prohibits feeding bears; the law in that regards addresses HUNTING bears over bait. IOW, it's no different than doves or waterfowl; you can certainly feed them, but you'd better not be doing so while hunting them.

That said, the AZG&FD frowns on feeding any large animals, especially the type that can get habituated and later cause problems. Those would include bears, javelina, coyotes, etc.

And yes, besides being able to feed deer where legal, you can also legally bait them with salt, corn, etc. for hunting purposes.

Thanks Tony for saving us from the continued, and all too familiar, "goat rope" !

Uuuuhhhh, would I be out of line here if I suggested that you get out of the truck or hide and actually HUNT them.

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Originally posted by LRH270:
OK, we bought some property that gets mulies moving across it from time to time.

Is it posible to train mulies to come to timered feeders like whitetails?

And if so, shelled corn or what?

Answer to question 1.........Yes

Answer to question 2, Corn, protein pellets, green peas, roasted soybeans, black eye peas.

Best

GWB