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Hi Folks
I'm considering buying a holiday home in Maryland.
I'm a UK citizen, clean record etc. Will I be able to buy and own firearms for hunting? How about handguns?
Thanks for the advice.


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The short answer is yes. Per instructions on ATF Form 4473,(over the counter firearms transaction record) section 20c. Legal Aliens must establish state residency for at least 90 days immediately prior to the sale. Proper identification also required. Hunting license usually follows similar guidlines. Find a good gunstore when you arrive, they should be able to take care of your needs.
 
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Here is a synopsis of Maryland gun laws
Maryland Firearm Laws

Note that Maryland requires State Police permission to buy a regulated (handgun) firearm. They can deny permission and they rarely issue carry permits.


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Posts: 1313 | Location: The People's Republic of Maryland, USA | Registered: 05 August 2006Reply With Quote
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I can't speak to the gun laws of Maryland at all, don't know what they'd require either for firearms ownership and/or registration, or for a hunting license.

But as far as fed goes, I believe you have to be here on some sort of visa, must have a valid hunting license in the state you are residing, must show proof of 90 days consecutive residency in the state, with NO breaks in residency there (in other words, you can't have been in and out of the country in that 90 days), They do check for the 90 days in country with Immigration Services, for that reason, non-immigrant aliens filling out the federal firearms form (Form 4473 you hear about), are ALWAYS delayed. You have to show the most recent 3 consecutive months worth of utility bills for the address you list on the federal form.

It can be done, it just takes more paperwork and delay than for a regular US citizen that can pass a background check.


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Let us know if you do Buy here I know some good spots or if your buyinng land withit. I know a good Relator on the Eastern shore of Maryland.
 
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Here is where a Blaser R 93 would be a great choice for a bolt action rifle.

Once you get your first reciever then you could buy barrels in what ever calibres you wanted.

You can even order barrels through mail.


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Impala #03

The UK visitor also wants to buy a handgun. Is that included in your post? (If it is, I sure wnat to know why no American could dream of owning a pistol in the British Isles -and yet we give such privileges to UK visitors? Anyway, what about blocking the purchase of long guns for exportation? What do we do about this UK visitor -and where he plans to send the guns from America? Oh, well, glad to see that one of Lenin's "useful idiots" always wants to jump in and answer "innocent" inquiries.
 
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You would be better off in North or South Carolina.
 
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I think you would be better off telling them you are an illegal alien. That way you'll have more rights than the average citizen.
 
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Gerry,

I'm not following your post. Deerdogs is a legitimate sportsman who I can vouch for. Are you implying that Impala #03 might be giving information to a terrorist and what does Deerdogs inquiry have to do with the gun laws in England? I'm sure all this info is available on the Internet somewhere so I'm thinking if Deerdogs had less than wholesome intentions he would probably not be quizzing members of a public forum.

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Why Maryland? I always thought that was a very anti gun environment. all kinds of restrictive laws, with a pervasive worldview of hate those evil man killer guns. No offense, I guess I'd prefer a state lacking intrusive gun laws.
 
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I am with You. I would pick a more firearm friendly State with better hunting oppertunities.

Not in any particular order, but Texas, Montana, Idaho, Colorado come to mind...

Most all hunting in Texas is on Private Land, but most of the states in the Rockies have a bunch of good hunting on ublic lands and firearm friendly laws as well.


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Speaking of Maryland, I met a lady from there two days back up here in Alaska. Wife and I were on our first supply run to Fairbanks, stayed over at hotel. I had bought several guns over winter from the gun store I go to and don't leave guns in truck; take them in room. Here in Ak, I see people do this all the time, accepted. So nx morn I come walking out of room towards elevator and run into this lady gawking at me. I have my bag, couple pistols in cases, stagg 15 in plastic case, and a pre ban AR that I had in over winter for some work being done. She said that she never saw people walking around with guns not in cases in Maryland. I said well the preban was kinda beat, my snowmachine AR, so I wasn't worried about scratching her up. (what I was thinking) She said no, I mean you are not allowed to carry guns in public in Maryland; then I was shocked.

If you like freedom, your guns, and not all kinds or laws, rules, and regulations that cost all kinds of money; I figure I wouldn't move to Maryland.

And no offense to the good gun owners from Maryland; but you got to get that goofy mindset down there turned back around.
 
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Originally posted by Zhurh:
Speaking of Maryland, I met a lady from there two days back up here in Alaska. Wife and I were on our first supply run to Fairbanks, stayed over at hotel. I had bought several guns over winter from the gun store I go to and don't leave guns in truck; take them in room. Here in Ak, I see people do this all the time, accepted. So nx morn I come walking out of room towards elevator and run into this lady gawking at me. I have my bag, couple pistols in cases, stagg 15 in plastic case, and a pre ban AR that I had in over winter for some work being done. She said that she never saw people walking around with guns not in cases in Maryland. I said well the preban was kinda beat, my snowmachine AR, so I wasn't worried about scratching her up. (what I was thinking) She said no, I mean you are not allowed to carry guns in public in Maryland; then I was shocked.

If you like freedom, your guns, and not all kinds or laws, rules, and regulations that cost all kinds of money; I figure I wouldn't move to Maryland.

And no offense to the good gun owners from Maryland; but you got to get that goofy mindset down there turned back around.



Depends on where you are in MD. Most of my family is from MD. There is a huge difference between Baltimore and outside of D.C. and the Eastern Shore and Southern MD.


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Gerrypeters375,

Details for firearm purchases for legal aliens is explained in detail on ATF Form 4473. I do believe legal aliens can purchase handguns legally if they meet the residentcy guidlines.

I personally do not know, or care to know the gun laws in the UK at the present time. If I were to reside there at some time in the future, I will brush up on British law at that time.
 
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Originally posted by Zhurh:
Speaking of Maryland, I met a lady from there two days back up here in Alaska. Wife and I were on our first supply run to Fairbanks, stayed over at hotel. I had bought several guns over winter from the gun store I go to and don't leave guns in truck; take them in room. Here in Ak, I see people do this all the time, accepted. So nx morn I come walking out of room towards elevator and run into this lady gawking at me. I have my bag, couple pistols in cases, stagg 15 in plastic case, and a pre ban AR that I had in over winter for some work being done. She said that she never saw people walking around with guns not in cases in Maryland. I said well the preban was kinda beat, my snowmachine AR, so I wasn't worried about scratching her up. (what I was thinking) She said no, I mean you are not allowed to carry guns in public in Maryland; then I was shocked.

If you like freedom, your guns, and not all kinds or laws, rules, and regulations that cost all kinds of money; I figure I wouldn't move to Maryland.

And no offense to the good gun owners from Maryland; but you got to get that goofy mindset down there turned back around.



Depends on where you are in MD. Most of my family is from MD. There is a huge difference between Baltimore and outside of D.C. and the Eastern Shore and Southern MD.


Maryland is more than a bit bi-polar on guns. There are laws prohibiting carrying in the open, in vehicles unless to and from shooting, etc. Handguns are regulated and require a background check, 7 day wait, and approval by the State Police before purchase. A carry permit is impossible to obtain unless you carry bank deposits at night or have been raped or threatened with violence - with the decision to approve or disapprove being made by the State Police and with no recourse if denied. "Assualt rifles" and clones are regulated or illegal, etc.

But, Maryland has a large hunting population, is widely recognized as a waterfowl hot spot, has lots of big whitetail, and sika deer along with much rural farmland suitable for hunting. Large numbers of the population hunt and fish - but the damn socialist politicians and the large liberal populations outside of Washington DC and in Baltimore city voting for them control the laws and set the rules.

I'm very much looking forward to the day I can retire and move to a less crowded, less heavily taxed, and more reasonable (read conservative and less Socialist) area.


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I could think of a few better spots to buy a second home, Maryland is not one of them, but on the other hand, there is a lot of Duck hunting there and well Crab Cakes. As for buying Guns, Maryland is a bit more strict on that than most other states, still its going to be a cake walk vs with what you have to put up with in the UK and Europe in General. All I can say is welcome to the United States. As for guns, well you will have a blast when you find out what you can buy here!
 
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Guys, thank you very much for the helpful insight.

Why Maryland? I've heard from a Marylander friend who lives close to me here in Dubai, that the East Shore duck hunting is second to none, and that is good enough for me. It also seems very accessable from Europe. And being the home of the brave and the land of the free I feel a stonger pull to the US than the liberal crash site that the UK has become in the past 20 years.

As regards the suspicions that I may be using this as a portal to export weapons - please relax. I've spent more time in uniform hunting terrorists than I have hunting ducks - and that is a quite lot.

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