I am a deer hunter from finland. .338 Win Mag is not so popular caliber in finland. So I think to ask help for you. I need accurate and good bullet for deer hunting and moose hunting. Can you recommederad weight 180, 200, 225 or 250 grain bullet. Shooting range is mostly 30-100 yards. My rifle is Sako 75 Hunter. I can reload my cartridges Thans for your help!

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I have had good luck with 225 and 250 grain Barnes "X" bullets. Nosler Partitions should perform just as well for you. Good luck in your search.

Try looking at some Barnes bullets. I've had great luck with them, and they are very accurate.

MG

I have shot deer and elk with the 210gr Nosler Part. and Barnes TSX out of 338-06 going roughly 2800fps.

They did the job.

If I draw a moose tag this year. I'll be using the 210gr Barnes TSX.

I shoot the 210 gr Nosler Partition exclusively in my .338 Mag. It's devastating on deer (actually a bit of overkill), and hits elk like the Hammer of Thor !!! I imagine it would also work well on moose. I've yet to recover one from any game animal, and when shot, the animal goes down generally on the spot.I use IMR 4350, but RL19 and any other equivalent burning rate powder should work. I get 3050 fps from my 26" barrel.

Hello markkur,

Welcome to AR.

I think you need two bullets; the 300 grain Woodleigh for moose and the 200 grain Nosler Accubond for deer.

The Norma ORYX 14.9g / 230 gr. would be a fantastic bullet for both. They are available in most of Europe, so you should find them in Finland. Look at www.hdf-gytorp.se
You should also consider REALLY looking into one of the non-tox bullets. Barnes and Lapua come to mind. It won't be long till the "lead ban" gets a strangle hold on our choice of bullets here in Europe

Nosler makes a 180 and 225 gr accubond in 338 caliber. Either one would be great for your purpose.

I would just load up the 250 Nosler Partitian. It maybe overkill for Deer, but you will get less meat damage and it will pass thru like a freight train. The 250 will be ideal for moose. Using one bullet and learning it's trajectory is a plus and less hassle in the field. It will get the job done with no worries.

I would go with a Barnes 185 gr TSX or 210 gr TSX for your .338 WM. Use the same bullet on both deer and moose. Or jump up to a 225 or 250 gr TSX for moose.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Northfork Bullets. They are some of the best preforming bullets I've ever tried. They are my bullet of choice for about everything.

Nice choice on the rifle. I have a few Sako 75 models. For bullet choice for the 338 caliber I will suggest 180, 200 or the 225 grain Accubonds. Great bullet. Out of my Sako m75SS 300WM I shoot 180gr Accubonds for all my big game here in Alberta (Mulie & Whitetails, elk, moose, bear)

Best choice for the 338 wouold probably be the 200gr for deer sized game, but will still be good for larger game (moose, etc.)

The TSX bullet would be another great choice.

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Originally posted by ldkier:
The Norma ORYX 14.9g / 230 gr. would be a fantastic bullet for both. They are available in most of Europe, so you should find them in Finland. Look at www.hdf-gytorp.se
You should also consider REALLY looking into one of the non-tox bullets. Barnes and Lapua come to mind. It won't be long till the "lead ban" gets a strangle hold on our choice of bullets here in Europe

Probably the best advice given location. I really like the Woodliegh 250gr PP in mine, but I have used many others with no bad results. The .338WM is a great choice. Nate

Mighty Peace and I have similar thoughts.

Though I've never shot a moose, I've heard a lot about good moose medicine.

I bear hunt in the Peace River region. My guide/outfitter has a 338wm. I used it on my last hunt for bb and will in a few months again.

I asked him what he likes for all of his hunting. "190 grain," was his answer. I had never personally heard of a 338 190 grain bullet, but knowing him, he probably meant something close, either 180, 185, or perhaps 200. Unless there are several 190 grain 338 bullets...I'm just not that familiar with them.

I asked why such a light bullet for that caliber. He said anything bigger just dropped off too fast at longer distances.

He does not reload, does not know the first thing about it. He's killed and has seen a ton of moose killed every year with 338 and bullets less than 200 grains.

So, fwiw, there's something to chew on.

I've seen my share of videos where hunters are putting down big bull moose with 300wm and 180 bullets.

My personal choice would be a 225 class bullet of reasonable quality.

Just load some 210-grain partition to produce around 2800 fps. You can go faster if you want, but it's not needed at all for the range you have mentioned. Since EU moose are not really that large, the 210 grainer should be more than enough.

Keep in mind that a 250-grain Partition mildly loaded past 2600 fps may produce a little more recoil than the 210-grain Partition, but it will do fine on deer or moose.

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Originally posted by MSwickard:
I would just load up the 250 Nosler Partitian. It maybe overkill for Deer, but you will get less meat damage and it will pass thru like a freight train. The 250 will be ideal for moose. Using one bullet and learning it's trajectory is a plus and less hassle in the field. It will get the job done with no worries.

I second that notion. There's not much on the planet that won't fall to a 250gr partition from a 338 caliber rifle.

I think you would be vrey happy with the woodleigh 225 gr protected point it hangs together and expands nicely.

If your shooting ranges are mostly 25-100m, I would stick with 250 gr bullets, unless you selected a mono-metal design. That said, what bullets are available to you at reasonable price? Any quality 250 gr bullet should do an excellent job at the ranges that you suggest. If available, the 250 gr Nosler is probably the obvious choice; 50 years of success is an excellent track record.

A 250 gr spitzer bullet will shoot pretty flat out to about 300m; from there the lighter bullets come into their own.

What bullets can you buy locally?

225 accubond

Thank's for your help. I can order all bullets what you have recommend in this forum. I have now now Norma Oryx 230 grain factory load. But the accuracy of them is not good abouth 3 inches. 225 grain accubonds group is the same 3 inches. I have to try 225 grain partitions. Partions works well in my old .308Win and 9,3x62. Speer 200 grain hot-cor bullets works well 1,5 inches groups, but 200 grain CT ballistik tip don't. Can you tel me more your opinion of 225 grain woodleight. I thint that bullet which have protection point is better. Partitions dont have protection point.

Interesting topic in that I also had trouble finding an accurate load for my Sako 75 Stainless Synthetic.
I came right, though, with 225gr Hornady Interbonds, but have not used them enough yet to determine performance in game. Only a few kudu shot.
For moose, however, I agree with the other posters who suggest a 250gr bulletwww.graaffreinetsafaris.co.za

I have been using 250gr Woodliegh PP and think they are top performers. Very good expansion and weight retention in testing. I have yet to recover one from game. They penetrate very well. Nate

YOu don't need a premium bullet for the distances you speak of and the game you speak of...

for economy ( so you can get more shooting practice) a good Hornady 200 or 225 grain bullet, will give you all you need to hunt about anything in Finland!

Check with DUK on the forum, he is a German who hunts whitetail in Finland each year.. he has a 338 Mag also, that he played with downloading with VV 110 Powder... which is plenty for your needs, but if nothing else, it will allow economical trigger time practicing with your Sako...

Welcome to the forum and best of Luck!
cheers
seafire

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:
YOu don't need a premium bullet for the distances you speak of and the game you speak of..... a good Hornady bullet, will give you all you need to hunt about anything in Finland!

seafire

I agree with this statement. It's hard to get bad performance from a .338WM in my opinion. I like the 225 Hornady and the 250gr Sierras pretty well. I just happen to get a screaming deal on Woodlieghs and layed up a few boxes. Nate

I have shot 90 whitetails with the 338 win mag.I have shot them from 3 yards to 425 yards.I only use my old Ruger 77 338 win mag with the tang safety .I only use winchester power point 200 gr.In relaods the hornady 200 gr is pretty close to it.I use the 250 gr noslers on moose because of bears in the same area.I love the 338 it has alot more knock down than any 300 win mag or 30-06 or 270 plus hardly has any blood shot meat.I have not used anyting else except my 264 on deer once it was alright but no 338 win mag.

I have used both 225 Hornadys and 225 Barnes TSX on game, both provide accuracy of less than 1" at 100 yards. I've shot pigs, wild dogs, whitetail deer, and squirrel with the Hornadys. I've shot game from duiker to cape buffalo with the Barnes TSX. One thing to think about with the super bullets like the TSX is that they often don't develop their best accuracy until they are pushed close to their max loads. I think it has to do with the length and hardness of the bullet. You might want to revisit some of your other bullets and try this approach. I seem to be the only man in the world who can't get good accuracy out of Nosler Partitions, they just don't fly for me no matter what caliber/rifle I try. Good luck with your quest.

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Originally posted by markkur:
..... I need accurate and good bullet for deer hunting and moose hunting. Can you recommederad weight 180, 200, 225 or 250 grain bullet.Shooting range is mostly 30-100 yards....

Obviously no need for any great speed or super flat trajectory.

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Unfortunately they are not to scale in the photo,but I really like the look of that 275aframe.
One day you will see the light and get a 9.3x64

Over the last 27 years I have taken a lrage number of different species with a .338. This includes animals ranging from duiker, to a lot of deer, up to moose and eland. For shooting a wide variety of size game with one load, I would recommend either the 255 or 250 grain Nosler Partition. They are soft enough up front to open up on deer size game, but will penetrate on the big stuff. I think the 210 grain is great on game up to the size of elk, zebra, etc. But when you throw in moose and eland, I want someting a little heavier that penetrates a little better.

I thing to test 225 grain Nosler partitions and 225 grain woodleigh PP. I choose 225 grain because I hunt mostly whitetails and sometimes moose.Accuracy I important when I hunt roes, because the efektive target is size of the 10 inches. I need also cheap bullet for target shooting. Which is your favorite in target bullet and velocity?

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I need also cheap bullet for target shooting. Which is your favorite in target bullet and velocity?

I've found that the 225 gr. Hornady Spire Point is exceptionally accurate in my off-the-shelf Ruger MK II (less than 0.75 inches at 100 yards), and it prints to the same point of aim as the 225 grain Nosler Partition, which is also accurate. I use 73 gr. Re 19 for both loads, and get about 2800 fps. (Work up to this load.)

A shooting buddy, using a Tikka T-3, put 3 shots into less than 0.20 inches at 100 yards using the 225 gr. Hornady SST the last time we were at the range.

I recently talked with Connie Brooks at Barnes Bullets about her bullet selection for the .338 win. She told me to shoot everything but the big bears with a 185 grain Triple Shock. If I wanted something with a little more umph, to use the 225 grain Triple Shock for everything including Alaska and Africa.

For Whitetails - standard Federal 210 Gr Nosler Partition has been awesome for me! And its light on the shoulder...

Good luck!

I found the Woodleigh 250 gr PP to be too tough for a whitetail. Loaded at 2500 fps (750 m/s) from 50 yards it went through a big doe behind the shoulders almost like FMJ. It ran for 60 yards, not a drop of blood in the snow but was of course dead when I finally found her under a spruce. Definitely not my cup of tea for whtetails, would prefer something like Nosler Partition or Accubond, even a Ballistic Tip would be better I think. But since I don't have the .338 anymore, I haven't done any more testing.

I realy like the 160 gr barnes x fb
just over 71 gr of 4831sc gets 2900 great for deer size game the 250 x is great for big game and is straight down out of my 0 for the 160 about 2.7 inches at about the same load

I use the 250g Hornaday SP. in 338WM

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tsturm wrote:

I use the 250g Hornaday SP. in 338WM

I'm curious. What load, what velocity and what accuracy? I've never gotten around to trying them, though I guess I should given how well the 225 SP shoots for me.

Thanks.

I think I missed something here.

This guy is claiming there are whitetails in Finland?

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I would just load up the 250 Nosler Partitian. It maybe overkill for Deer, but you will get less meat damage and it will pass thru like a freight train. The 250 will be ideal for moose. Using one bullet and learning it's trajectory is a plus and less hassle in the field. It will get the job done with no worries.

You took the words right out of my mouth!

DM

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Originally posted by WPN:
This guy is claiming there are whitetails in Finland?

Yep, we have them - as the only country in Europe. They were introduced here in 1934 as a gift from Finnish immigrants living in Minnesota. We shoot about 20 000 of them each year.