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Broke out my ancient 270 this morning, needed to shoot a bit in preparation for an upcoming antelope hunt.
I had never shot any Ballistic Tips in this rifle so I loaded a handful of 130gr bullets in front of some R22. I shot 5 through the chrono in the backyard to see what velocity and pressure would be like before going further. Amazing. 3145fps average from a 23" barrel with absolutely no pressure detected.
I'm certain this load will shoot well, anything else I've ever put through that gun would. What could be better than a lightweight rifle (8lbs) chambered in a caliber that delivers this kind of velocity with true hunting weight bullets, minus the recoil and blast? Who needs a 7mmSTW!

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You ain't just whistlin' Dixie boy!
When you've got to get down and actually hit somethin' way out there, the old .270 is still a wonderfully effective round, and then some, with todays components. It still offers a near perfect blend of power, flatness of trajectory and shootability.
The competition has always seemed to be trading off one area to the other.
I remember a windless morning in the "Wind River Range" when a mulie buck stared down the valley wall at us from a lofty perch at 500+ yards .... he never heard a thing.
 
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John, I've been a .270 enthusiast since 1977. It's one of the most effective and useful cartridges I've ever used, and I'll always have at least one .270 in my battery; no matter what.

I've always been amazed at how easy it is to get over 3100 fps. out of a 22" barrel with 130 gr. bullets, and how easy it is to achieve superb accuracy with this cartridge. The .270 Winchester is one of the least fussy cartridges I've ever worked with, and one of the most effective.

Those pronghorn you're about to hunt should make themselves scarce!

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Maybe the finest plains game cartridge ever. Some neo-modernists like the 140 grain bullet. I guess it's okay, but the classic 130 has served me magnificently. I have a supply of the old Nosler Solid base with conventional lead tips, and with some bit less powder than the manuals call for they leave the muzzle of my pre-'72 Sako at 3200 FPS (chronographed and double checked). I know this is unusual, but I'm not complaining!
 
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The only reason they keep coming up with new cal's is so I have to buy more guns.
 
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I have had more rifles in 270 than any other caliber, except the 375 and several of those 270s have been benchrest rifles.

I rate it right there with the 22/250 and 375 as offering a pefect blend of all the things that a caliber can offer.

Mike

 
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I woul have to agree with Mike. The 270 is a great shooting rifle. It rate right up there with the 22/250 & 375
 
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Count me in as a .270 fan. Great blend of power and trajectory that will not knock your teeth out, even in a fairly light rifle. Never had a problem reaching reported velocities with my .270s either and the darn things make it difficult to choose a load because they group all different types of bullets close together.

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I agree with all.
Hard to improve on perfection.
I've never owned one and probably never will.
I prefer the .280 Rem but can't knock the .270.

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I've had the same one going on 17 seasons now and it has been a deer shooting machine. The last few seasons it has been retired to the safe but I may have to bring it back out for another hunt or two this year.
 
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I'm glad to find some more .270 fans, as this calibre, since O'Connor's passing, has been constantly beat-up by the magnum maniacs and big-bore BSers.

The several that I've owned have all been sub-MOA rifles and that are easy to load for with just about any bullet or powder. Took one to Africa last year and slew all manner of antelope, large and small, with the 150 grain Hornady spirepoint.

It is a GREAT cartridge. My current one is a Weatherby MKV stainless synthetic lightweight.

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I wouldn't own a 270. I shot so much stuff with it and got so many one shot kills that I finally got bored to death with its consistency.....

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Well, I might have to eat my words! I have tried about everything and have yet to achieve acceptable accuracy with the 130gr ballistic tips in this rifle.
I am switching gears and going to my old partition load, at least I know they will deliver on the accuracy side, plus there is no question on how they work on the game!
 
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If I may make a suggestion...Try the 130 grain Hornady SST..It is a wonderful bullet, doesn't come apart like the Ballistic Tip, is very accurate and easy to get it to shoot well..Try it---you'll like it!!!
 
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Just to conclude this thread, I made up a nice shooting load with 130gr Ballistic Tips and took off for NM last weekend.
Found a really good antelope on the second day and the old warhorse came through like she has so many times in the past! Animal was facing me from 260yds, according to my rangefinder, so I centered it low on the neck and touched it off. The animal went straight down as if struck by lightening! Great antelope, great shooting and a great caliber just re-impressed me all over again!
 
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The 270 brings back memorys of the old 130 gr. WW open point expanding bullet...That was the most devastating combo I have ever shot on deer and antelope...They just drop at 25 yds or 600 yds and yes the bullets came apart on the far side, but they did it with style....If I ever run across a batch of thoes old bullets, I'll buy them and build me a 270 to shoot them in.....A great gun then and just as good today as anything on the market...Same for the 30-06, the standards by which all others are judged...

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A couple of years ago I ran into some industry statistics regarding sales covering everything (pages of data). I can't put my fingers on it now, but I recall that the .270 Win. was still in the top 10 to 15 of new center fire rifle sales. And I recall it was number 5 or 6 for sales of reloading components.

I find it amusing that new cartridges come and quickly go, while so many that are pushing a hundred years old just keep on ticking.

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I think the reason that cartridges such as the 270 remain popular is because they work! With the 270, you have a round that produces very impressive ballistics, little recoil and is inherently accurate. It also has the ability to do all of this in a short barreled lightweight rifle, which is a pretty popular configuration this days as well! Give the old girl a 24" or longer barrel and it will throw up some numbers that take a lot of the bloom off of the newer small bore magnums.
Over the years I have owned about every caliber from 30/06 down that has been commercially available, and a few wildcats too! For hunting deer, antelope, sheep and any other similar sized game I just cannot do better. I will doubtlessly try a 270WSM but I really don't expect it to replace the original!
 
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I presently own 5 .270s....does that tell you anything???
 
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Yes. You have four .270s you don't need. I'll be happy to offer you an unreasonable price for them.

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George you old son of a gun, you have me beat by one! I think in O'Conner's prime he boasted of having "only three guilt edged 270s" at one time!
 
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I use 54.5 to 55.0 grs of IMR-4350 behind 130gr Partitions and Ballistic tips. I got 3,050 chronoed from a 22" Rem Sportsman 78 and it shoots 3 BT's into .5" and 3 Partitions into .75-1.0" all day long! The beauty is it shoots both to the same point of impactat 100yds.

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Mr. Hoffman, can you please explain to us all how the 270 WON'T kill elk!
 
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Well it seems we have a 270 mutual admiration society going here! I'm woodering how many of you Jack Oconner fans are fans of the Mauser G33-40 action as well! I just happen to have a G33-40 action, with a shilen barrel, in the white, chambered for 270 Win, the action is milled, and drilled&tapped for Luepold bases, Timmney trigger, and Buehler safety, The barreled action is unblued, and unfired other than to check the chambering job. There is absolutely NO rust, or pitting on this barreled action. Butch Searcey is selling the actions alone for $600, or two for $1000,which is a bargin today, but anyone interested in this barreled action I would part with it for $900 plus shipping! Will ship to your FFL dealer! Will give a 5 day examination period with money refunded if you pay the extra shipping, back to me!

I was buliding this rifle for a Leopard hunt, but changed my mind, and am going to use a rifle I just aquired. Most of the work is already done on this barreled action. The only thing missing is the large screw that holds the ejector/bolt stop assembly on the action. an easy make for any gunsmith!

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George,
It tells me you gotta have 10 arms and 100 fingers to shoot 5 .270's, no wonder you like the caliber, thats a world of knockdown...

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Originally posted by John S:
Just to conclude this thread, I made up a nice shooting load with 130gr Ballistic Tips and took off for NM last weekend.
Found a really good antelope on the second day and the old warhorse came through like she has so many times in the past! Animal was facing me from 260yds, according to my rangefinder, so I centered it low on the neck and touched it off. The animal went straight down as if struck by lightening! Great antelope, great shooting and a great caliber just re-impressed me all over again!

Did I meet you at the Whittington Center Friday evening sighting in our rifles?
Ted Sierocinski

 
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No, wasn't me! I had wanted to drop by there before leaving NM but the schedule wouldn't allow it.
 
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Unless I find a eally good reason not to, I am taking my 270 Win as my "light" rifle for Plains game next year.

It just loves 59 gr of Rel 22 and 150 gr bullets at about 2990 fps.

I have 3.5-10 Weaver Grand Slam on it, and
that should be most sufficient for most of the "Bok-Boks" I would be hunting.

Will also ahve the 300 Win along with 180 gr Bear Claws and 220 Hornady RN for bigger game.

 
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Terry,
Needless to say, I have used the 270 in Africa on more than a few occasions. I think it is the perfect Leopard rifle with 150 gr premimum bullets. It will shoot completly through a Zebra on the broadside shot. My wife has taken several kudu sable and one eland. However, I would reccomend a little more bullet wt for eland. I have used the old barnes 180 gr .270 bullets on elk in heavy aspens. I had a place I used to hunt on a mountain ridge that was full of aspen up to about 2" diameter. The elk bedded up on this ridge and when I could get the wind right I would walk this ridge slowly late in the morning. When a bull stood up from his bed I would just shoot thru
aspens and all. I killed several bulls on this ridge using this method. Long live the .270. Maybe a 270wsm might be a good one as well


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I wouldn't own a 270. I shot so much stuff with it and got so many one shot kills that I finally got bored to death with its consistency.....

I remember that the late Jack O'Connor wrote late in his life that he had shot a number of grizzlies, I think it was five. Of those, three were taken with a 270 and two with a 30-06 (if I remember the numbers correctly), and it so happened that the ones taken with a 270 were all one-shot kills, while those taken with the 30-06 all required multiple shots.

 
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