Dear Mr. Solberg:

Thanks.

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

I enjoy the wild, I enjoy hiking in the wilderness, but most of all I enjoy hunting. Given that, I don't want to hunt on a game farm and I don't want our wildlife managed like one either. I'd like to see both wolves and grizzlies reintroduced into Colorado, put a little more excitement back into that family camping trip. If I have to work a bunch harder to get my elk so be it.

What if you go from over the counter elk tags--- to a drawing that leaves you getting a tag every 15 years? This IS a real possibility with wolf reintroduction.

That would suck, I think hunting wolves to help with the "balance" would be awesome. We should be able handle both species and enrich the hunting wilderness experience for us all.

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Originally posted by Yale:

You laugh? I'm a conspiracy nut? Read about Weimar Germany and Hitler's rise to power.

Godwin's Law proven once again.....and it only took 30 some odd posts.

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Originally posted by Norton:

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Originally posted by Yale:

You laugh? I'm a conspiracy nut? Read about Weimar Germany and Hitler's rise to power.

Godwin's Law proven once again.....and it only took 30 some odd posts.

Dear Norton:

Funny how historical context places one in the forefront of intellectual analysis.

Maybe, you're missing something?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

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Originally posted by Yale:

Dear Norton:

Funny how historical context places one in the forefront of intellectual analysis.

Maybe, you're missing something?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

Perhaps, but I don't feel the need to analyze everything in the context of Nazi Germany.

Carry on.

Dear Norton:

Being less cryptic, I'll describe the difference between the Godwin Law sloppiness in political argument and the actual reference to the "Weimar Republic" transcending into the foul fascist alchemy of Nazi Germany.

Weimar produced a power vacuum in Germany, and although von Bismarck despised Hitler, he had to give him his acquiescence in 1933 upon Hitler's election as chancellor.

My problem with today's, meaning AG Holder's unbridled and legally and ethically bereft "Fast and Furious" program is that it conforms to Hitler's use of the Weimar machinery overlapping with his own SD, the pre-cursor to the SS in removing German civilian's rights alongwith their firearms.

Got it now?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

Yea, we got it. And bringing in Weimar and Nazi Germany into a discussion about a news article highlighting a wolf crossing an imaginary line just shows how delusional you really are.

Wandering gray wolf confirmed to be in Lassen County
Lassen County Times
Aura Whittaker
1/12/2012
Don’t look now, but Journey, the gray wolf formerly known as OR7, a lone male that traveled from Oregon into California last week, reportedly is now roaming in Lassen County.

It’s been 88 years since the last gray wolf (Canis lupus) in California was killed in Litchfield. Since then they have been on the California endangered species list, and gray wolves in other states have been fiercely protected. Wolves have proven themselves a resilient species, however, after nearly being extinguished by poisoning, trapping and shooting by various adversaries.

According to the California Department of Fish and Game (CDFG) website, any wild gray wolf that returns to California is protected as endangered under the Federal Endangered Species Act, administered by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS).

This particular gray wolf has been collared with a Global Positioning System (GPS) device that periodically transmits his location, and biologists have been able to document his travels since he was collared as an approximately one and one-half year old, 80-pound male in February 2011.

OR7, which is the code that identifies this wolf’s GPS device, is said to be a member of the so-called Imnaha pack — Oregon's oldest and largest. Wolves were re-established in Oregon in 1999, and there is evidence they are spreading across the Western states, possibly to start new packs. Other wolves have been reportedly seen near Walla Walla, Wash., and Pendleton, Ore.

The California Farm Bureau (CFB) has been watching the gray wolf’s advance very closely and dreading the likely clash between wolf and livestock. Its a matter of how big their numbers get, and how aggressive the wolves become, that determines how much of a problem it could be for ranchers in Lassen County.

According to Karen Kovacs, Wildlife Program Manager with the Northern Region Fish and Game Office in Redding, the four primary areas of concern regarding the reintroduction of gray wolves in our area are public safety, livestock detriment, big game population and the wellbeing of OR7.

Historically there have been instances where gray wolf predation has contributed to declines in deer and elk populations, however in most cases predation has had little effect, according to CDFG.

In a press release posted on CDFG website on Dec. 29, 2011, they explain “some gray wolves have killed livestock — mostly cattle and sheep — while others rely entirely on wild prey. In other western states the impact of depredation on livestock has been small, less than predation by coyotes and mountain lions, although the effect on an individual livestock producer can be important, particularly when sheep are killed.”

The press release continues to denounce concerns about human safety as “largely based on folklore and are unsubstantiated in North America. In recent years there was one human mortality in Canada caused either by wolves or bears, and one confirmed human mortality in Alaska by wolves. Based on experience from states where substantial wolf populations now exist, wolves pose little risk to humans.”

However, the CDFG does recommend people never approach a wolf, or otherwise tamper with or feed a wolf. Kovacs said to call the NRCFG Redding office at 530-225-2300 to report a sighting. She said to include the date and location of the sighting and take pictures (from a safe distance) of the animal and/or its footprints, if at all possible.

For more information you are invited to visit the Lassen County Board of Supervisors meeting at 9:30 am on Tuesday, Feb. 21 at 707 Nevada St. in Susanville, where Kovacs will be presenting information about OR7 and the reintroduction of gray wolves in California.

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For more information you are invited to visit the Lassen County Board of Supervisors meeting at 9:30 am on Tuesday, Feb. 21 at 707 Nevada St. in Susanville, where Kovacs will be presenting information about OR7 and the reintroduction of gray wolves in California.

I am planning on attending.

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Originally posted by Moose_drool:
Yea, we got it. And bringing in Weimar and Nazi Germany into a discussion about a news article highlighting a wolf crossing an imaginary line just shows how delusional you really are.

Well Moose Drooly:

Delusional is as delusional does.

Do you have any understanding of history, how it tends to repeat itself, and bite you in the ass? Do you even know what the Weimar Republic was?

Did you renew your PETA card?

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis