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How many people believe that there should be guidelines set up in each state, to determine which individuals are qualified to purchase a license and hunt? Should there be a mandatory age and physical fitness level that each person wanting to purchase a license has to meet before being able to buy one? Should weight, highest level of education, religion and sexual preferences be included in the deciding parameters? What about ethnicity and credit history? Should there be a mandatory test concerning hunting ethics with only those scoring 95 or above being issued license? What should be the mandatory age cap, 65 - 70 or maybe 60. What about I.Q. scores? Anyone below 100 is automatically out? Even the rocks don't last forever. | ||
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I vote that all the above should be implemented ASAP. Opps, forgot I might be out due to the age factor, so nevermind.  Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
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Finally, a voice of reason! I think religion and sexual preference must be considered - the rest don't matter. Personally, I find it despicable that a Presbyterian heterosexual should be allowed to hunt. Oxon | |||
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You wanna hunt here, you've got to have this card or equivalent. Can't see a problem with that. Keeps the Italian sound shooters out of the woods  http://www.aheia.com/ Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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I believe there should be some sort of qualification process for obtaining a hunting license. The only question is how stringent should it be? Do we let anybody with a pulse just pick up a high powered rifle and hit the bush or should the prospective hunter have to undergo an extensive, German-style hunting qualification process? NONE of the parameters you mention has anything to do with proving ones's ability to hunt safely and legally. The sarcastic "tone" of your post leads me to believe that you don't agree with the idea of a qualification process? An I reading that right? No longer Bigasanelk | |||
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I was thinkin there should be a test to allow people to procreate. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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+1 No longer Bigasanelk | |||
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NO NO NO AND ANOTHER NO. | |||
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Isn't that sort of thing already in place?? What is the mandatory hunter's safety course for? What you're proposing seems to be some sort of back door gun/hunting restrictions. "Uh, sorry John, you're 5# overweight and you didn't complete the exercise requirements. And we understand you drink now and then. We just don't want your kind in the woods." Aim for the exit hole | |||
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Of course not. Call your next case. | |||
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Henceforth, to qualify for a hunting license, would-be purchasers must: 1. Be of German/English/Irish descent; 2. Be 76 years old or older; 3. Be 6 feet 3 inches tall; 4. Have blue eyes; 5. Have grey hair and mustache; 6. Have a waistline of at least 45 inches; 7. Wear size 14D shoes. These seven mandatory qualifications certainly would make it a heck of a lot easier for me to draw tags in the annual hunting lotteries. Bill Quimby | |||
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I've got 3, 4 and 7 down. I'm out of luck though as I doubt I'll get to 76 | |||
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The only thing "Getting" to me, is what I feel is a growing attitude that unless people fall within certain parameters, that other people have set up, they should not be allowed to purchase a hunting license or refer to themselves as a hunter. If you do not view it that way, that is your perogative. It is mine, to wonder why hunters are attacking each other over the various things I listed. Hunters are complaining about other hunters being out of shape! Hunters are complaining about other hunters not sharing the same ethics! Hunters are complaining about other hunters over their choice of what to shoot or not shoot! Hunters(?) are complaining about other hunters refering to themselves as Hunters, and whether what they do is or is not hunting! Now if I am, wrong about any of those four statements, Please correct me. I really do not think you can. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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No, you are reading me so completely wrong it is totally ridiculous. Next time don't try so GOD DAMN hard. We have recently on the various topic areas had members complain about other hunters being physically out of shape, not sharing the same ethical values and the concept of who should or should not be allowed to refer to themselves as a hunter amnd/or whether the activity they participated in should be considered hunting! Go back and look at the other responses, some folks got it right. I can guaran-damn-tee that there are folks on this site that actually believe that once someone reaches a certain age they are no longer capable of hunting. I can guaran-damn-tee that there are folks on this site that if you are below a certain intelligence level that you have no business hunting. And the list goes on. I for one am tired of Bull Shit. As long as the person meets the IEGAL requirements of the state they will be hunting in, all other concerns or questions should be left up to the govenor of the state involved. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Qualifications? Only one is necessary. If you can repeat after me, "You got a pretty mouth boy.", then you shall receive a hunting license. Sincerely, Chris Bemis | |||
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Geez, CHC! Whadaya trying to do -- shut down hunting in Texas?  Tony Mandile - Author "How To Hunt Coues Deer" | |||
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I really cannot argue with that, but, in the long run is it better to set around with our thumbs up our ass and our minds in Arkansas, pretending that hunters are just one big happy family, or to get some form of dialog started to try and get hunters focused on the one thing we have in common, our love of hunting instead of on the dividing aspects many of us seem so hung up on. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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That might not be such a bad idea. Quit trying to defend our hunting heritage, just give into the concept that hunting and hunters have no place in our modern world. We are dinosaurs and should just go ahead and become extinct. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pc4EJMe8IM Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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CHC. I'm really concerned about your posts this past month. Focus on the positive things in your life and dont let the pain poison you. It's never as bad as we know it is. We are not correct nearly as often as we think we are | |||
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Maybe there should be mandatory qualifacations just to post on AR.  Thanks! Brian Clark Blue Skies Hunting Adventures www.blueskieshunting.com Email at: info@blueskieshunting.com African Cape Trophy Safaris www.africancapesafaris.com Email at: brian@africancapesafaris.com 1-402-689-2024 | |||
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No one in the South will ever hunt again!  | |||
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My but some of you folks really must have wanted to be pyschiatrists. I focus on the postive things in my life every day, but just because a person focuses on the positive it does not make the negative aspercts disappear. To believe that way is ludicrous at best. Brian, there is a wonderful feature on this site called Ignore This User, why don't you try using that instead of your rapier wit. Thank You both for being so helpful, you just provided another Qualification that has to be met before being able to get a hunting license. You have to think exactly the same way as everyone else, free or individual thought and opinion forming are automatic disqualifiers. Bonus points canm be earned if applicant is willing to kiss everyone else's ass, but is not a guarantee of being issued a license or gaining entrance into the "Real Hunters Only Club". Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Naw, poachers don'ts got to has licenses.  Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Thought of another set of qualifactions. Persons 55 to 65 must undergo a mandatory physical and any problems with high blood pressure/high cholesterol/over weight/bad joints/back problems/incontinence/sexual dysfunction/hearing or visual impairment, will disqualify the applicant from receiving a regular hunting license, but they may be able to apply for and receive a special permit allowing them to hunt under the direct supervision of a person 40 years old or younger. People between the ages of 41 and 54 can not mentor an older hunter or fisherman as their health is declining during those years and cannot be expected to be able to properly monitor the older hunter. Persons 66 and older are no longer eligible to hunt, but may be able to buy a fishing license that will allow them to fish while accompanied by a mentor no older than 40. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Here we go again. When you think of it, CHC has made some valid points. You don't have to agree with them but do consider them. Too many here feel that, It's do it my way or the highway." Frankly, the only real manatory rule I would like to see if everyone must take the Hunter Education course. I've been teaching Hunter Ed for just about ten years and change. I get "old timers" in class who will stand and argue some of the safety rules we promote. I have never had to kick a kid out of one of my clases but I have had a couple of "old timers" who would not listen and would contradict everything I or one of my fellow instructors said. Some of the most unsafe gun handling came fro those "old timers" as well. Our policy was correct them once, correct them twice, let there not be a third time. Most people eligible to hunt without taking the class do so so they can get a freebie bonus point it puts them one up on a guy who has no bonus points. Besides, those classes are a hell of a lot of fun. Remember, you're never to old to learn. Paul B. | |||
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..no, no...it's "Now son, you done give us the high sign, so you's free to hunt here with us all you wants. And we don't need no damn license and sech to hunt this here woods noways. Why, this is PUBLIC huntin', everyone knows that. Them there rich city boys what own this land ain't hardly ever around, and in the meanstwhile we gots it ALL to OURSELVES..." | |||
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True story! One of the E5's that worked for me when I was stationed in Spain was from the Ochechobee Lake area of Florida, he was interested in hunting in the West and we would talk hunting fairly regularly when we weren't working on aircraft. I asked him one day if ever shot any aligators, he said " of course, the tail is really good to eat. And we usually don't shoot them, we just harvest the tails and let them go". Then I asked him how expensive the licenses were to hunt gators, and if there was a drawing and so on. He told me he didn't know they just went hunting and never had a license. The kid from West Virginia that was in my shop had similar stories and never had a single hunting license. My father is a retired BLM Ranger and went to one of the first Forest Service, BLM, BIA, Park Service classes at FLETC in Mirana, Georgia. He heard a lot of stories of backwoods craziness that the instructors had for those National Forest and National Parks in the South. I would imagine a lot of that is gone, but I am sure if you look in the right place there are still some fairly wild poachers out there. Same as Alaska. | |||
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CHC " Leads the Way" for angry disgruntled old folks. For some people, the best advice is to get your whole head in front of the shotgun. | |||
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All jokes aside, and they are jokes, yes to Mandatory Hunter Ed and a qualifacation process such as Bigasanelk mentioned would be worth looking into and setting up. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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For some people the best advice is to get their head all the way out of their ass before trying to criticise others. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Hell...I think one should have to own land or be able to pay a poll-tax to vote. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I don't go quite that far a state issued I.D. card would suffice. Maybe that could be another mandatory qualifacation parameter for being able to obtain a hunting license a person has to be a registered voter. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Certainly a valid ID is paramount for sure. The fact that it is not required by all states already...gets marked down the stupid column in my book. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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In WV, if you're hunting on your own land, you don't need a liscense. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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 That is about as accurate a statement as I have seen. I guess some folks just feel that renting a video carries more consequences than voting an idiot into Public Office.Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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