It is the subject of this discussion.

They were indicted but not for murder.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hun...rants-154655167.html

You have to understand that homicide in Texas is a misnomer! The worst you can get is a suspended sentence..For armed robbery you get the electric chair or life!! I never could figure that one out.

Now those fricken illegals are levitating.Bastids!!!

The shootings appear to have stemmed from an argument between the guide and the hunters, likely fueled by imbibed ethanol. When the dust settled all involved concocted the story of an attack by "illegals" to cover their asses. Their "story" cost a lot of law enforcement wasted time (as well as generating more fake news from the xenophobes). If they hadn't made up the story there would probably have been no charges filed against them since being stupid is still a constitutional right in Texas.

Well the wild West ain't dead yet..I wouldn't be surprised that hunters unfamiliar with West Texas and particularly That area got pissed and got in a gun fight thinking they had been conned, although that's a bit extreme!! Ive hunted that ranch many times in the past and you can climb your a$$ off for days and not see animals or sign, then if you just don't give up some morning you will be among Audad, Coues deer and Mule deer all day long..Its a big country and game rich, its just that the game may be 25 miles apart and on the same ranch..One reason the horse or Mule is a God send..

Its also different in that you ride until you jump game, then bail off and go to shooting,many times off hand, something most are not at all familiar with, but its the most exciting way to hunt I know of if you have the horsemanship to go with it. Its 100% success.

What happens is folks from someplace else lease the land from the ranch and become overnight guides, Texas has no licensed guides or guiding legislation, its mostly all private land..The guides in most case require you to hunt on foot, and IMO that's folley unless your superman and young at that thus folkds get cranky.

I was blessed to grow up about 50 mile from there as the crow flies and a 150 mile drive..I grew up guiding there and have had hunters from the East, Californiqa and Lousiana get up and leave on after the first day or two, and pissed..They were forewarned, but those that toughed it out always got nice bucks..Its just hard country. Every bush has thorns, stickers, every creature bites and the food will kill a yankee carpetbagger, its hot and spicy and most camps serve pintos, fried meat, cover in hot sause, tortillas, eggs bacon and biscuits for breakfast, No brown bread, fruit, beans are veggies, all meals serve with coffee and/or beer.. No wonder folks get mean! Southern Arizona and NM is the same. The SW desert is no place for snowflakes.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Well the wild West ain't dead yet..I wouldn't be surprised that hunters unfamiliar with West Texas and particularly That area got pissed and got in a gun fight thinking they had been conned, although that's a bit extreme!!

A bit extreme? That's way out there IMO. I've never heard of a client getting into a "gunfight" with a guide or outfitter because of a difficult hunt.

Any number of things could have contributed but my guess is it boiled down to either nerves or alcohol but that's just a guess

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
What happens is folks from someplace else lease the land from the ranch and become overnight guides, Texas has no licensed guides or guiding legislation....

Sounds like some booking agents I know as well

Id like to see a copy of your license as a guide.