I used to live in Cody, WY which is kind of long range central with Best of the West and Gunwerks in the neighborhood. I was at the range one day talking to a celebrity hunter from one of these outfits. One of the reason he mentioned that was great about long range shooting was it allowed physically incapable people to make a shot where they could not get closer. That of course brings up a number of thoughts with one being if the long range shooter is not capable of getting to the game how is he going to check if he missed or wounded the game if it isn't DRT? I gotta feel that that elk that's 700 yards across the canyon is not going to get checked on at all unless the hunter sees him fall even if the hunter might be capable. Slogging through brush and boulders for 2 hours to get to where the elk was might not be worth it if the elk didn't tip over immediately.

Mark

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I used to live in Cody, WY which is kind of long range central with Best of the West and Gunwerks in the neighborhood. I was at the range one day talking to a celebrity hunter from one of these outfits. One of the reason he mentioned that was great about long range shooting was it allowed physically incapable people to make a shot where they could not get closer. That of course brings up a number of thoughts with one being if the long range shooter is not capable of getting to the game how is he going to check if he missed or wounded the game if it isn't DRT? I gotta feel that that elk that's 700 yards across the canyon is not going to get checked on at all unless the hunter sees him fall even if the hunter might be capable. Slogging through brush and boulders for 2 hours to get to where the elk was might not be worth it if the elk didn't tip over immediately.

Mark

That is not true with people I have hunted with.

They turn down shots because they are not sure they can hit the animal.

We had this on several occasions, and jokingly they would suggest I take the shot.

I have, and I have always killed the animal I shot at.

To them, this has nothing to do with my ability, but due to my magic bullets!

This whole subject does not make sense anyway.

2 years ago I wounded a kongoni.

Not sure how far he was but less than 200 yards in the bush.

Not sure if it was me or the bullet got deflected.

We ran after him.

Next we see him across a valley walking up a hill about 500 yards away.

Someone said he wasn’t seriously hurt.

I asked Alan to put the shooting sticks up, he did, saying “that is very far!”

I fired at him, and he dropped.

Alan next sentence was “bloody hell! That is ridiculous “

So almost a miss at close range, and a deadly hit at long range!

Legal??

By whose standards?

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So almost a miss at close range, and a deadly hit at long range!

Legal??

By whose standards?

Stuff like this comes under the heading of stuff happens.

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So almost a miss at close range, and a deadly hit at long range!

Legal??

By whose standards?

Stuff like this comes under the heading of stuff happens.

Stuff happens to us in our everyday lives.

Bringing laws to hunting on what distance one should shoot is just plain silly.

I know professional hunters who won’t let clients shoot a buffalo further than a few yards.

And I know professional hunters who never questioned their clients on what distance he should shoot.

We saw an eland across an open plain, at least a mile away.

We walked towards him, when we got closer - still several hundred yards away.

My PH put the shooting sticks up and said “ it is a bit far. You have to aim high”

I did shoot it, and I did kill it.

And we never stopped teasing my PH for what he said.

His answer was “ you keep telling me if you can see it, you can hit! The eland was in plain sight!”

My dad always complained about the scopes with multi lines and range finding binos. Very old school but I have to agree with him on this. We used to hunt on a ranch, at the time was one of the best blacktail deer ranches on the Central coast. I dont remember very many shots over 200 yds. The longest shot I ever took with my 257 Weatherby was maybe between 250-300 yds on the biggest wild boar I have shot to date, but on deer i would say most were shot at 150yds and less.

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My dad always complained about the scopes with multi lines and range finding binos. Very old school but I have to agree with him on this.

My dad died at 87 some years back he thought those two items were useful. He had over 75 years of hunting experience.

Then he was one of the first local hunters to scope his rifle after WWII.

Said it was the best move he made when it came to game shooting.

He even had 20-15 vision.

I have been using laser range finders for as long a time and multi reticle scopes for longer then that.

I find them to be great tools.

They have change shooting and hitting further out there for sure.

I have seen hundreds of deer shot in Northern Wis. The average range is well less then a hundred yards.

So what.

I have shot deer out west as close as 50 feet and further then a lot of hunters here would shoot.

I do not buy scopes any more with out multi reticles.

Unless they are going on short range cartridges like 44mag, 45-70.

Even then it is not a bad idea to have them in case you change out scopes.

In them I prefer the simpler ones Mil dots two or three hash marks.

I am just against more laws period.

All this is just conjecture, such a law cannot be enforced as its in a wilderness or in a deer stand in bumFxxx Maine. You can't enforce and idea.