Some Candian police must not carry guns.



Black bear attacks and kills grandmother, 70, on fishing trip
Globe and Mail ^ | June 2, 2008 | KATE HAMMER

Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:26:03 PM by george76

The husband of a 70-year-old grandmother who was killed by a bear in northern Quebec ...

Conservation experts set traps after Friday evening's attack, but ... the bear was still at large in the wilds of northern Quebec.

As she scouted a fishing hole for walleye, Ms. Lavoie became separated from her husband. Barely 10 minutes later, Mr. Lavoie felt something was amiss and went searching for his wife of 51 years. Metres away he came upon the nightmarish scene of her body being dragged into the forest by a bear.

Mr. Lavoie chased the predator for nearly 200 metres and managed very briefly to scare it away from his wife. He tried but was unable to carry her limp and bleeding body back through the dense spring foliage.

He left her and went for help. When he arrived with police, the bear had returned and was combative.

"The bear was still around and the bear was aggressive,"

The bear was so aggressive, police were forced to delay attempts to retrieve Ms. Lavoie's remains until early Saturday morning...

In 1991, a black bear killed a Toronto couple in Algonquin Park...

In 2001, a high-school student was attacked and partly eaten by a black bear 25 kilometres northeast of Yellowknife.

In 2007, a Calgary woman, who was cycling on a trail near a British Columbia resort, was stalked and killed by a black bear.


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My God!!
No guns? did the dipshits not have mace or stun guns or anything??
I don't consider myself a freeking hero but if that had been my mother/ sister/ wife/ girfriend or even just friend I would have went after that prick with a knife if that was all that I had before I would have let him make a meal of her.

Canada it seems, has some to us citizens of the good old USA, very strange gun laws.
A few years ago our hunting group went up into Canada a month before legal bear hunting season opened. We were going to cut back some foliage around the bait barrels so shots would be clearer. And we decided that we just might need some protection against an angry bear working around bait barrels.
When we went through customs, and stated that we had a shotgun and they said nothing to us. On the way out of the woods we were stopped by their officials, game law officials. We had the usual camping stuff in our pickup truck and it was not concealed at all. Then the questions started. One of the first was "do you have any firearms". Yes was the answer and then all hell broke out. We were informed then that we had no rights to defend ourselves against any wild animals. That if we went into the woods and were attacked it was our tough luck, to bad for us. To them there was no way you could even think of shooting a bear that was chewing on you or one of your buddies. Forget carrying a hand gun of any kind.

Mike that warden was wrong, you can carry a long gun for protection. I don't know how long ago it was but maybe it was the method you were transporting it that caused his "distress." They do some strange things. You're right about the handgun part.

Honestly most people going into the bush don't even worry about animals around here. Grizzly country is a bit different, but blackies don't worry most people. Obviously this gal got killed by one and she damned sure would have liked a gun. It's a numbers game though, think about all the millions of hours people spend tramping around the bush and there's a fatality every year or less. The chances of getting attacked by an animal in the Canadian bush is miniscule.

I'm not trying to turn this into an American bashing thing-honestly I'm not, but I'm sure it's going to get out of hand anyway. The way we see it, we just can't understand why Americans are so afraid of going into the bush unarmed.

It's a culture thing we can't understand I suppose any more than the Eastern Canadians can understand why westerners want to have guns at all.

cheers

the chef

calgarychef1 it is more a being prepared thing why does one have a fire extinsher, wear seltbelts, wear a pfd when boating, wear a helmet when on bike motorcyle, 4 wheeler ect. If one plays the odds you don't need any of them.
The anti's have done a very good job of convincing people that selfdefense with anything let alone guns is a bad thing.

If you convince most of the people that selfdefense is not a good thing one does away with one of the main reasons to own guns. They have won a lot of the battle..

We have strange gun laws??? At least you were able to bring it in the country. There's no way I could bring a gun into the US without a pile of paperwork. If I wanted to go on a last minute bear hunt in Alaska there's no way I would have enough time to do all the paperwork required to allow me to take my own gun. It is much much easier for and american to bring a gun into Canada then it is the other way around.

Bringing them into a country has little to do with what you can do with them once you are there.
It may be harder to bring one in to the USA but you can damn sure use it once you get here.
And you for sure have the right to defend yourself.

My ears always perk up when I hear the phrase "need to carry a gun". We do not have to justify a need to carry a gun. I don't know when the last Bear attack was documented in Texas, but I don't carry a gun into the brush because I might get attacked. Mostly it's because I may want to attack something.

In the public woods it may be a different story. That's why I don't go there.

Alan

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Originally posted by bucko:
Bringing them into a country has little to do with what you can do with them once you are there.
It may be harder to bring one in to the USA but you can damn sure use it once you get here.
And you for sure have the right to defend yourself.

Same here-carry a firearm of some kind with me on the quad when in the bush-been checked many times and never had a problem.