Good post...Just because your a cop doesn't make you any better of a hunter, man or woman.Different rules and choices.Hell,I married one From McCall Idaho and married in Yellowpine Idaho.They put there pants on just like we do.But dumb is dumb.Two officers from McCall were at the Big Creek airport and a Guy got off the plane and shortly after shot a Moose on the other side calling it an Elk!!!!The Sherrif of Valley County went nuts and the State Police had to kill him(In a shoot out).Another Sherriff got drunk in McCall and all the local Police had him surrounded and the only one that could arrest him was the County Coroner????Cops are not imune to life.

Just my opinion.......Jayco.

Well, thought I would share one of those horror stories, but one that is known to be true. just heard it this morning.

One of my coworkers and I were talking about hunting, and he told me:

His brother-in-laws' brother (follow that) was a police officer back in iowa or ohio and was hunting years back with another officer/friend of his. They split up and the other officer saw a bush moving so shot. Hit the brother of my coworkers brother-in-law in the head and killed him. The friend is now in a mental instituion apparently.

One more reason to only hunt with guys you KNOW are not going to pull a stupid.

Be safe out there guys.

Red

Dude really paid attention to the part in hunter safety where they tell you to know your target and what is beyond. There are far too many incidents where someone shoots at the moving bush or hears a stick crack and lets one go downrange in it's general direction. Always a good idea, until these guys see that it's some other hunter instead of that monster buck. What the hell possesses someone to be that stupid? I don't know if you heard about the hunter in Wisconsin or Michigan that killed a woman out walking her dog a while back. The trial was on Court TV. She was wearing a white scarf, which the hunter thought was the tail of a white tailed deer. Genius puts his crosshairs on the white patch and pulls the trigger. So, not only is he thinking this woman is a deer, he's shooting the phantom deer in the ass! Great work buddy. Granted, a white scarf can look like a deer's ass, but that's where you settle down, be sure of a good kill shot instead of a tail amputation, and pull the trigger if the shot is there. Glad there's these guys around to make us hunters look good to the rest of the world.

Or the Pregnant Palomino shot out from under the rider in Idaho.Or the stranded hunters that shot there horse to crawl in and stay warm!!!!!

Idiots come from all cultures...


Jayco.

Jayco, What's the Elk hunting like up above Stibnite in the "Big Chief" & "Little Chief" Creek drainages where they run into Indian creek? Area 27. Last time I hunted in there was 1967. They were marking the ridges out around the old airport to start some mine up then. I suppose those damned Wolves are in there thick now. Killed my first Bull in there in 1960. We used to get a General Deer tag, an Antlerless and a Middlefork tag and hunt in there for deer along with our Elk. Bears were free and Big cats too. Used to be one hell of a lot of Martin trapping in there way back. Godsdog.

Godsdog-Hey I love that country.My wife and I were the first couple to get married in the new Yellowpine church 17 years ago.I had lots of friends that worked at Stibnite for the mines and one who was the winter keeper.Lots of Elk and Deer but its ruff country as you know.A friend I used to work with got another Bull last year with his 30-30 just South of Stibnite.I wouldn't hesitate to hunt there if I lived closer.....

Best of luck....Jayco.

I'm going to give my exwife a white scarf and a plane ticket to Wisconsin

Now and then I can read stories like that,accidents..that was not an accident,It was total stupidity.
A man should newer shoot anything which he cannot see..and identify with 100% sure.
I have done hunting 30 yrs now,it is not the most important thing to take down some animal,It is fucking crazy and stupid to shoot first and check later what it was...
I hunt with 45-70 30-06(mainly)and 375HH.Fucking hell,I must think the whole dangerzone in my aiming direction,what is behind the trees far out there??? In certain conditions the bullet can fly three miles and still go thru a man or somethin else.
The problem is that also stupid luneticks gets guns ,as driving licences,how to control theese bastards who are spoiling the reputation of all hunters.
I have seen theese guys,I was once hunting with one,my first and last trip with him
He behaved like an total idiot and was drunk all the time,I went home the next day.
Now,if I see stupid or drunken behavior,breaking the law etc. I call the cops,simple as that,Im so fucking tired to theese fuckers..

Elias

Jayco,

I hear ya on the cop thing. The guy who mentored me in my current job was a cop for several years, and he tells of the hundreds of examples where uniformed police officers performed acts of idiocy with their handguns.

His short version is that cops arent "gun guys" and if they are using a certain gun/ holster/ ammo combo, its not out of experience. And to think they use Glocks nowadays with no safety! What happens when the bad guys snag their Glocks from them and yank the trigger? (which is every criminals' extent of gun knowledge). Give me a good old 1911, cocked and locked, evertime!

348 Elk-It's not only the Cops.We had a woman from California shoot a Moose by Warm Lake Idaho and got ticketed etc-etc and before her court date she was back in close to the same area and did the same thing and got caught again.I have know idea what she was on but it is the truth.They have a sign when you go over Warm Lake summit with a Moose on it telling everyone to know there target???

A nother guy shot a Moose also and with the Fish and Game guy walking up claimed over and over it was an Elk.That was in the Fish and Game regs a while back.

They ought to have some sort of test while ones adrenalin is flowing for these kind of nut cases to be able to hunt.To many more stories just like it.It's sad and getting dangerous out there.

Best of luck......Jayco.

ref to previous...
Unfortunately..I have found out that cops..most of them..dont know anythin of guns..arms..and nothin of hunting or hunting rifles...sad
There are only few "specilalists" who knows,something.
But..they represent the law,when y really need them,y need and wait for some profs to come and clear the situation.
often its not so,I have been dissapointed in some cases.
We who meet here in this forum,we are interested of guns etc..we who have had this hobby for life,,we know quite a lot.. we are profs with guns..
We face difficulties and fucking problems sometimes,but thats how it is,,we must live with it.
try to survive,life is hard sometimes,and so is my dick also.

Elias

The recent event in Granby Colorado when Marvin Heemeyer went thru town with his homemade tank out of a D9 Cat, and the local cops were shooting at it like crazy with pistol ammo.

As all of those bullets were bouncing off the sides, how many were riccocheting all over the town. I wonder how many consider the Lethal Weapons movies as a training video?

Cops are good guys, but I question the common sense I have seen used at times.

cheers and good shooting
seafire

Jayco;

You and some of the others might find this one funny. It is second hand from a guy I use to work with. But he was a real religious mormon and was not really known to be anything but truthful.

When he was in college in the mid 1960s at Oregon State University getting his degree in Forestry, he spent the summer and the fall doing some internship with the State of Oregon. One thing he had to do was an intership with the Oregon Dept of Fish and Wildlife.

So he was with a Fish and Wildlife guy at a road side check during Elk season. A couple of guys pull up with a Cadillac and had on hunting garb. So the inspector asked them if they had any luck and they proudly said yes and that it was in the trunk.

When asked if the inspector could see their licenses, they whipped them out and all was in order. They had secured an out of state Cow Elk tag.

So the officer asked if they could see the Elk, the guys happily opened their trunk to show the officer. It was quartered and had the head taken off but still with the animal as is state law. Everything was in order.

However the 'Elk', was not an Elk Cow but John said he saw the head of a mule. He looked at the officer to see what his reaction would be. The officer never even batted an eye.

He asked were the guys were from and they said Southern California. So the officer closed the trunk, and told them to have a nice trip home.

He then said, I hope you are going to grill that on the barbeque with some friends over aren't you. YOU Bet was the answer of the proud hunters.

Well, after your friends have enjoyed that delicious meal, I hope you show them the picture of the animal head with you two proud guys standing over it. I am sure they all will be impressed.

As they drove away, the F & W officer looks at John and told him the react of his friends would probably be a lot bigger lesson to them than any fine on the planet ever would be.
He also added that, that would not be the last time John would ever see that, if he decided to go into the Fish and Wildlife Dept after graduation. The F & W officer had admitted he had seen horses, deer, mules all shot by hunters with no experience. He also admitted they did not have to be from California to be that dumb. He just said when they are, it makes it more funnier to an Oregonian.

John went on instead to join the Navy and spent 6 years flying as a weapons officer on an A 6 Intruder instead after graduation.

Cheers and Good shooting
seafire

In the old days in Idaho it was just about anything you shoot game wise.At a ckecking point just above Boise an out of Stater came thru with what he thought was a Cow Elk.It was a Forest Service Mule with a Brand!!!!!!

Dumb-Dumb but people are people..Scary Huh!!!!!!!

Jayco.

jaycocreek,

Was that the Church that was right across the street from the "Corner Bar" or "Corner Tavern?" Rumor had it when I was there (about the time of your wedding) that the building now being used as a Church was the former "Bawdy House."

My Brother and I were there in Yellowpine for Elk and Deer hunting about the time you were getting married. We stumbled onto one hell of a wedding party the night before the ceremony, there in the "Corner Bar." I think I still have a T-shirt from that place!

The power went out and a local outfitter went back to his base camp and brought back a generator. He fired it up and instead of hooking it up to the lights, cooler, or cooking outlets (a lot of food was being cooked - fried chicken, etc.), he hooked it up to power the band instruments!!

The bartender was the local "Resident Deputy" Sheriff and he finally closed the bar down about 2:30 or 3:AM. I think the official closing time back then was 1:AM, but "everyone is having a good time and no trouble, so, what'll you have" was his philosophy.

Great time, great people, great place!!

After I read the post, I thought that I would tell you about a hunting accident that happened to my paternal aunt's father-in-law back in the late '80s.

The father-in-law had gone to hunt in a treestand on his own land and when it got late and he had not returned, his son went to look for him and found him lying at the base of the treestand with his rifle lying close by.

Apparently his rifle had somehow discharged and shot him in the stomach. He was dead when his son found him. Can you even imagine what the son went through when he walked up and found his dad like that? I don't think the son even hunts anymore now.

I don't think anyone ever really figured out what exactly happened. The rifle was either a Remington autoloader or pump in .30-06. I think it was a pump, but I don't remember for sure.

Apparently he had removed the clip from the gun to either climb up or down the treestand, (the loaded clip was found in his pocket) but had not removed the round from the chamber. He must have dropped the gun during the climb and it hit the ground, fired from the impact, and shot him through the stomach.

Think of how easily this fatal accident could have been prevented if he had been a little more careful.

Take care and be extra careful.

Ole Miss Rebel

I guess everyone has heard of some tragic accident wherever hunting occurs, but this post reminded me of one that happened in my neck of the woods. Two brothers and a cousin were hunting deer. The cousin wasn't really an experienced hunter so the brothers devised a plan to scare him. During the day they told him how the wild hogs around here in the swamp were especially aggressive and were known to attack people unprovoked. One of the brothers and the cousin were walking out after dark and the other brother had hidden in some brush along the trail. As the two approached, the brother in the brush rushed out making pig noises and was promptly shot dead by the scared shitless cousin. What started as a joke turned into a family tragedy and here in south Louisiana the community is really close and has a large hunting population, so the story had an impact to say the least. After reading the name of the victim and his bio I realized that I had worked with him a couple of years earlier. There is simply no place for bullshit when firearms are present!

My cousin and I had been quail and pheasant hunting and I was tired of all the walking so I decided to stay at the truck with my wife. While I standing outside the truck talking to my Wife a nice size quail jumped up in front of my cousin he shot and missed the quail. The #6 12ga shotgun blast hit me in the arm with one of the pellets and the rest went into my topper on the truck. He had browed the shotgun and shells form me I was lucky he didn't kill me and my wife. It was over 20 years ago I haven't hunted with my cousin since or let him forget.