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It was in Northern Maine along a hi-line where one can see for a very long ways.

The moose decided to run across and I led him and squeezed off and it fell in it's tracks as it was about to enter the thick woods on the far side.

Not to worry as I have practiced this shot all summer and was prepared.

I use the HMR as I just don't believe in ruining meat more than necessary.

Photos coming when I get them from the camera.
 
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And we have a commedian......



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I know since you were shooting a magnum the hold over wasn't an issue but how much did you have to lead him?
 
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I'll bite, I'm sure someone here can come up with a impact velocity and impact energy at that distance. I don't spend enough time in my recliner to work the #No's myself. vapodog, please feel free to jump in here. This is a perfect scenario for you to analyze.


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Well done, I know you practiced and knew your limitations. After all, it does say on the package dangerous up to 1 mile.

For some, the object is just to see if it can be done, the 17 HMR might be a bit on the light side, but it worked for you so congratulations and mighty fine shooting. Talk of foot pounds and energy and all that stuff isn't from the field anyway . . . you are out there doing it Wink Waidmannsheil, Dom.


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Moose taken at 593 yards with a .17 HMR

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You hotloaded that thing to .17 HMMR and you know it.....don't try to fool those of us that know better!


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Please do tell us that you were using open sights otherwise we ain't impressed Roll Eyes


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A BIG CONGRATULATIONS ROBERT!!!!

And I agree with you about the meat being ruined by the "big magnum toters". It just shows how meaningless energy is at the POI if you're more skilled than all the knuckle-dragging naysayers around here that just shoot once a year.

I can't wait to see the pictures of the downed beast!

I have a buddy who made a similar shot with the HMR on an American Bison with the same "bang-flop" results!

All the people who doubt the killing ability of this "small and tight" cartridge are dopes!

I think I'll give the HMR a run this weekend; Rhino season just opened.....stay tuned Big Grin
 
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I REALLY hope you were using the 20gr protected points, the 17gr plastic tips just don't have the penetration needed for moose. Fine for white tails to 900 yards though!


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and yes, I also congratulate you....even if you did hotload that thing.

It's a real treat to see folks that can hit so well at great distances. Anyone can do it with a centerfire.


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Here is the moose.

 
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Please do tell us that you were using open sights otherwise we ain't impressed Roll Eyes

You guessed it. Used the sights that came on the gun.
 
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Moose taken at 593 yards with a .17 HMR

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You hotloaded that thing to .17 HMMR and you know it.....don't try to fool those of us that know better!

Well, you're right. I did soup it up a bit.
 
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Perfect cartridge/bullet combo, the tissue damage is so minimal, he looks as if he were sleeping. Such a peaceful picture, I down loaded it as a screen saver, thank you.


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Hey Robert,

How big was the exit hole?
 
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How big was the exit hole?


There was no exit. The entire tonnage of energy was absorbed by the moose resulting in "fell in its tracks" performance. This is exactly why a .17 HMR is the perfect moose cartridge. Roll Eyes


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You were lucky then, I think the last guy who did that at 400 yds had the bullet exit and killed another moose behind it. Eeker
 
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Nice shot and nice moose. Get it mounted and post it somewhere you have bragging rights. Not everyone can shoot like that.
 
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I have to use the .22RFM for my Elk it is only good to 400 yds.May be I need one of them new fangled .17 HMR's so I can shoot out to 500+ yards.
 
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By golly, that's a far piece to be shootin at that big a critter. anyhow congratulations.
 
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You were lucky then, I think the last guy who did that at 400 yds had the bullet exit and killed another moose behind it.Eeker



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Hey Robert,

Really sorry to keep bothering you....

...but I'm concerned at your choice of caliber for such a big animal at that extreme range. Why didn't you choose something adequate such as the .223 with 40 grain Nosler BT's or, if I dawn my "magnum toting hat", might I suggest the 6.5 Grendel next time. It would display your respect for the game.

I'm sure you think that the energy they deliver at the POI is overkill and I can relate.

Just my opinion, no need to get upset, no offense...
 
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How big was the exit hole?

It was awesome. Exit hole the size of a basketball. Poor moose never had a chance.
 
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...but I'm concerned at your choice of caliber for such a big animal at that extreme range. Why didn't you choose something adequate such as the 6.5 Grendel next time. It would display your respect for the game.


Hey man, that heavy recoiling monster? I wanted moose meat for the freezer and that thing would have scattered moose all the way to Canada.

Not on my hunts!
 
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Next year, I'm going with the standard .17 HMR. No more souping it up.

Put too much powder behind that bullet and it acts like a 16" gun from the USS Missouri.

 
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May I suggest a longer barrel. The muzzle flash is a bit severe it seems.
 
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...but I'm concerned at your choice of caliber for such a big animal at that extreme range. Why didn't you choose something adequate such as the 6.5 Grendel next time. It would display your respect for the game.


Hey man, that heavy recoiling monster? I wanted moose meat for the freezer and that thing would have scattered moose all the way to Canada.

Not on my hunts!



Well excuuuuse me!

You have to understand, I've had my nose in a book reading about it, not out doing it like you manly dudes!
 
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I've had my nose in a book reading about it, not out doing it like you manly dudes!


I know.....I tried to run this thing through my calculator and it just goes into scientific notation and then gives a "chuck you farley" sign.

Seems the number is too much for it.


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And we have a commedian......

You might want to check your spelling..... animal


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Next year, I'm going with the standard .17 HMR. No more souping it up.

Put too much powder behind that bullet and it acts like a 16" gun from the USS Missouri.




Be careful when you load for the HMR!

It's finnicky and you can get high pressures without warning!

I've seen the shock wave from careless loading act like a daisy cutter on the foliage!
 
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Actually this seems a lot more like a 16 HMS than a 17 HMR......but then it's not a Grendel! animal


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And we have a commedian......

You might want to check your spelling..... animal


The spelling police of the internet has arrived! You're starting to behave like some of the lefties over on the PF -- attack spelling and grammar instead of substance.

Let me guess, you never make typos.



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And we have a commedian......


Watch your mouth whitworth! I'm the commmmedian around here. Just ask jsm475c3po. He's seen my pointy cone-shaped hat!
 
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...but I'm concerned at your choice of caliber for such a big animal at that extreme range. Why didn't you choose something adequate such as the 6.5 Grendel next time. It would display your respect for the game.


Hey man, that heavy recoiling monster? I wanted moose meat for the freezer and that thing would have scattered moose all the way to Canada.

Not on my hunts!



Well excuuuuse me!

You have to understand, I've had my nose in a book reading about it, not out doing it like you manly dudes!



Robert,

My point about using the heavier calibers like the Grendel and the .223 is that one shot kills them and tenderizes them at the same time. Energy!
 
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Here is the moose.

That HIGH Intensity cartridge even KILLED all the underbrush(except for the Spruces, Firs, whatever) as far as can be seen. Nice Moose, great flick!

I'd thought about getting one of them thar 17HMMR, 17HMR, 17HM, 17H, 17M, 17R, Thingies, but after seeing all the damage to the underbrush(I'm a "Bush" Hugger Big Grin), I do think I'll just stay with my .17BB Red Ryder.

The only question is I'm realllllly concerned about the Red Ryder Trigger - Firing on Safety Release. I keep it pointed "Down" all the time just to be totally SAFE(and wear Steel Toe Shoes). I guess I could make a 1000yd shot on something "if" I could find a tall enough tree and it walked close by.
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Nice shot Robert!
 
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I'd thought about getting one of them thar 17HMMR, 17HMR, 17HM, 17H, 17M, 17R, Thingies, but after seeing all the damage to the underbrush(I'm a "Bush" Hugger Big Grin), I do think I'll just stay with my .17BB Red Ryder.

You might try one of them thar .17 BB Red Ryders in the latest offering....the .17 RR Grendel. I hear it's deadly to almost 500 yards on mulies but then you know how folks blow things out of proportion on the internet. There's just so much malarkey flying around; folks making wild claims and moderators supporting them.

Well, it's the opening day of pheasant season and I need to get some meat for the freezer.....I still have a few .22 rimfire birdshot to shoot at them. It reduces meat damage ya know!


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I think proves that the ideal deer cartridge for most hunters is the .17 Mach 2, most of us can't shoot accuraly at the longer ranges. At typical ranges say <300 yards the reduced recoil and muzzle blast will promote accurate shot placement.
 
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And we have a commedian......

You might want to check your spelling..... animal


The spelling police of the internet has arrived! You're starting to behave like some of the lefties over on the PF -- attack spelling and grammar instead of substance.

Let me guess, you never make typos.


PAY THAT! Big Grin
 
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Alas, No photos of the entrance/exit holes and bullet remnants. Frowner
 
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