Who is your pick? I can not decide between Tacitus or Roadster.

My favorite thing about derby day is all the afternoon parties and attractive women in their new hat and sun dresses.
It is also funny to watch what happens when women drink bourbon. The effects are bad enough on men but women are unpredictable after two stuff mint juleps.

Gamewinner 4 to 1. My pa always said the favorite is the favorite for a reason.

Capt Purvis - What’s the recipe for a mint julep? I want to know this strictly for educational and scientific purposes only of course. We love watching the Derby, the darn buds aren’t even out on the hardwood trees here yet, so the dressed up spectators, colorful jockeys, and awesome horses are a real treat. Good luck to all you potential winners

My departed Aunt Lil used to host Derby parties at her Louisville home-

This is similar but not exact , as to my Aunt Lil's recipe:

https://www.esquire.com/food-d...-julep-drink-recipe/

I am a KY native and mint julips sound better than they taste IMO.

Those horses are beautiful though.

Strange ending this year.

BH63

That sucked to put it mildly. Whining plaintiffs must be Democrats

What a travesty. It's invaded our most hallowed traditions. Whine and complain until you get what you want.

At least this year they didn’t have a flaming homo as a commentator.

BH63

I did not watch the derby, but I heard about it. My question is, did the horse/jockey break a rule? Second question, the consequence of breaking that rule a disqualification?

If the answers are "Yes" to these questions then it's not a big deal. If the answers are "No" then whine and complain apparently that works. Let's not forget the most important thing, it's only a horse race, so far down the importance scale it only kinda matters on one day a year for less than 4 minutes.

And BH63, ... oh forget it.

This is my understanding from The Harold and day of coverage.

The horse did commit a foul by veering or surving into the side of another horse.

The horse veered to miss a puddle and did not make contact with any horse.

Now the horse that won on the DW was two horses outside of the horse that committed the foul. There is the argument where reasonable minds can disagree. Did the horse that committed the foul in doing so interfere with the horse that won by DQ. I say no. The steward (horse ref said yes.

What would have happened if the DQed horse hit that puddle and injured itself? The rule should be contact, but exist to prevent contact.

This is my limited, non handicapper understanding. Does any good horsemen agree?

It also took 22 minutes bc the issue is not the foul. The issue is did the foul affect the objecting horse as the other two horses did not object.

A rule based on no contact would serve the purpose. But the current rule is meant to stop chain reactions. Ie veering into one horse, no contact, and the other horse veers hitting another horse. That rational is sound. I cannot offer a rebuttal or better solution.

The hillbilly in mean loves racing on mud track. Maybe the answer is the track is continuously graded. If standing water is visible the race comes to an end. This would be inconvenient could push the Derby off first Saturday in May. But I think if the track has standing water. We can come back and try again. The horse veered bc of standing/puddle water. The wrost was foreseeable Saturday when he veered. Thus, no racing with standing water on the track. No, do not stop, tend track, and then restart.

Maybe the other two did not object bc they knew the Second place, winning, horse would.

First Place was also a 1.8 million dollar payout.

Good conversation.

Another thought. There are no national rules of or on horse racing. Each state has its own rules as a patch worker. There is no Federal mandate or national association or commission.

The Derby field is way too crowded anymore. Too many horses at one time on that track. Unnecessary.

Kentucky org. doesn't allow appeals. There's a reason this hasn't happened in the history of the Derby....and shouldn't have.

My 2 cents: The horse with the best odds gets the most bets. Normally the odds for the favorite are close to 2:1. Odds for the favorite this year were 5:1. Odds on the horse ultimately declared the winner were 65:1. Probably 100 times more bets on the favorite than on the longshot. Mob/Vegas said no way are we going to make the big total payout to all those winners on 5:1 bets. So few in comparison bet on the 65:1 that Mob/Vegas saved big time.

Max security was far and away the best horse in the race. Watch the replays of the first turn and see how much bumping went on with those sloppy conditions. It's more replay gone wild and everyone feeling empowered to whine about everything. This is a disgrace.

The NBA is a disgrace because of the players constant bickering about calls and general miserable attitude at a time when they're making obscene money (unknown role players making $20 mil per). The NFL isn't far behind.

Appeals are allowed. A notice has been filed. The result could end up in Frankfort Circuit Court, but I doubt it.

The field is too large. This Maximum Security will not run in the Perkiness where his speed could really shine.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Appeals are allowed. A notice has been filed. The result could end up in Frankfort Circuit Court, but I doubt it.

The field is too large. This Maximum Security will not run in the Perkiness where his speed could really shine.

Appeal denied.

Once Administrative remedies are exhausted. Sounds like they are. They can bring action in Circuit Court in Franklin County.

I find the whole thing amusing.

take the rule book out there and show it to the horses see what they think.

Some members of Congress think the Russians were behind it. There is talk of an investigation.

BH63