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Hot Core: I am always thinking about hunting, and that includes hunting deer. Sitka blacktail season gets going later in the year and we hunt those out on the big islands. But it is caribou season right now...(it is always caribou season) but the normal season is just getting started.

p dog shooter: I love hunting black bear. How do you folks hunt them there in Wisconsin? I like baiting..it is extremely hard work to do right, but when done right it is very successful. Do they allow baiting where you hunt? Some folks frown on baiting, so if you do then I'll beg your pardon , and we can move on to talk about how you do plan to hunt the bears there.

R Flowers: I lived in Susanville for about 3 or so years and Davis for another 15 and I hunted all over California, more or less (from 1973 to 1991). Lots of people then and more so now..but I always liked it. I have an antelope hunt that starts in less than two weeks in Colorado...up near Craig. It does seem early, but I am excited about it. One of my brothers from northern Virgina is flying out and we plan to have a good hunt there in Colorado. I hope your hunt goes well.
 
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I went down to SC last year for the opener. My brother lives in Lexington, SC. I won't do that again.

It was SOO hot and muggy. I had fun seeing my brother but that was about it. It did no good to even shower in the morning. As soon as we'd step out of the rig, the moist heat would make us sweat by the time we shouldered our .270's.

Mosquitos were using the small uncovered pieces of my flesh for a buffet. Even though I was sporting a BugTamer suit. When we'd get back to his house, we'd do a thorough tick check. I must have removed 15-20 the first hunt. And I'm not talking about just wood ticks, I'm talking deer ticks as well, you know, the tiny ones with Lyme disease.

After getting back home and seeing/hearing no deer for 3 days straight I said I'd pass on it this year. I like cold deer hunting.

I'm still loading for Wyoming and Colorado. I didn't draw for KS, but MO is over the counter for archery and rifle. I'll be heading back to my old stomping grounds there from when I was in school in Iowa.

Kentucky: I just picked up another 3000 acres to hunt in Grant, Pendleton Counties, near corn, peas, beans, and tobacco. You have to kick the turkeys out of the way everytime you go to the deer stand. I have a great spot picked out near a creek where I popped a 3 yr old 10 point with my bow last year. I wish I knew how to post a picture so you all could see my collection. I shot that deer at 25 yards from the ground with my Mathews bow.

Ohio: just took on a 1000 acre lease with 14 other hunters on Mead property. This will account for a 5th place to hunt here in Ohio. It's in Scioto Co where the slungers roam. I CAN TAKE ANY GUEST FOR UP TO 3 DAYS EACH FOR ABOUT $20/DAY!! Mead claims this property hasn't been LEGALLY hunted in 6 yrs.

I have my new Swarovski 20-60x80 STS, Leica 900 rangefinder, all camo: getting organized. Since I'll be driving out to WY by myself to hunt, I'll need to buy a truck cap...any suggestions on brands? Swiss, Leer, Jason, SnugTop, Century???

The last piece of equipment I need is a GPS...cannot decide which kind to buy, Magellan, Garmin, ??

OH CRAP...BY THE WAY, EVERYBODY GO TO BASS PRO SHOPS WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT IS ON SALE! I GOT MY NEWSLETTER FROM THEM AND YOU CAN GET A COUPLE OF GPS'S FOR UP TO $150 OFF!!

 
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Iam allways readybow season here starts middle of Sept. My wife drew a bear permit this year so I working on that first.

Iam always scouting looking but Ihave hunted this area for over 30 years most likely I'll kill some deer in a lot of the same places I have before. They are coming out of are ears. Big bucks are always rare but that makes them fun to hunt. We have a early doe guns season end of Oct. I'll most likely bloody the 416 then. (unless I can talk the wife into using it on her bear.)

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I think I am ready. I sure am getting anxious.

I have done a fair amount of varmint shooting this summer and have shot several wild hogs. Getting out before daylight and hunting hogs is good to keep you in shape and keep you familiar with your equipment, etc.

I am surprised your deer season opens so early. I thought California was bad in that respect. Actually, on the coastal range I think our season opens about the same time.
In the east side of the state our season opens Sept. 18th.

I will get to go for the opener in September, but will not be able to stay for more than the weekend because of work. I usually stay 5 days, but someone beat me to the vacation calender at work this year.

I cannot complain too much, I am taking off to New Mexico soon for an antelope hunt that starts August 21st. I wish it were not so early, but that is when the Game and Fish opens it so we will be there.

I do not need any new equipment but have been entertained by some of my buddies buying new guns, scopes, binoculars, etc. The frenzy is on around here.

I know, people don't think of California when they think hunting, but we have more opportunites here than is generally thought.

Good Luck hunting this fall.

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I was out trimming bushes today and it "dawned on me" that today is 7Aug04. That means 15Aug04 falls on a Sunday and when that happens, the South Carolina opening day for Deer Season is moved back to the 14th. So, S.C. opens a week from today.



I won't be able to make it down there for the Opener which does not set well with me at all. Hopefully all you folks won't have something to keep you from being out on Opening Day wherever you hunt.



So, the main question is, are you ready?



Got a Load developed or a box of factory ammo you like?



Do you need to get anything you tore-up or mis-placed from last year?



Trying anything new?



Got your Opener Stand or piece of Land selected? Done any scouting?



Hey......let's talk Deer Hunting!
 
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I'm running late this morning, but I do appreciate all the Hunting Plans from you all.



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... Iam always scouting looking but Ihave hunted this area for over 30 years most likely I'll kill some deer in a lot of the same places I have before. They are coming out of are ears. Big bucks are always rare but that makes them fun to hunt. We have a early doe guns season end of Oct. I'll most likely bloody the 416 then. (unless I can talk the wife into using it on her bear.)...






Hey pd shooter, Sounds a good bit like the way I do concerning the Scouting. Might as well be looking for Tracks and last years Rubs when you are out walking around rather than just pounding pavement.



Met a guy who Deer hunts every year with a beautiful, very old, Belgian made B&W 375H&H Browning. First time I met him some guys were giving him a hard time about the Elephant Gun on the smallist S.C. Whitetails. He listened politely and then walked them over to view the Doe he shot after it had been cleaned. One of the classic, "you can eat right up to the hole", examples of how it killed without exploding the Deer. They backed way off from giving him a hard time when he asked why they were throwing so much meat away on their Deer.



Do you load your own 416? What do you use in it?



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Bear Hunting is indeed a lot of fun with dogs. My memories contain a lot of funny happenings doing thet. I guess the funniest was when a Braggart got taken down a notch. He was always Bragging about ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, and we all knew most of it was Hot Air! We had struck the dogs and they were hot from the get-go. They began running a fairly large circle in armpit high bushes. This was very strange for us as they normally ran anyhting but circles. Just happened that Braggart was about in the center of the circling. He got tired of turning(as he related to us) and the next thing he knew, he could hear something making a heavy running sound behind him. It was about a 250-280# Black Bear which proceeded to run completely over him and smashed him into the mud. As he was getting up, the dogs got there and a few managed to stomp right on up his back as well. He didn't hunt with us but a few more times because of all the laughing.



How big do your Bears run? Any Hogs in the same area?



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... I will get to go for the opener in September, but will not be able to stay for more than the weekend because of work. I usually stay 5 days, but someone beat me to the vacation calender at work this year.




Hey RF, That is a bit better than not getting to go at all. Even a weekend is better than having to sit it out.

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I cannot complain too much, I am taking off to New Mexico soon for an antelope hunt that starts August 21st.




What will you be using on this Hunt?

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... I do not need any new equipment but have been entertained by some of my buddies buying new guns, scopes, binoculars, etc. The frenzy is on around here.




Had a buddy call me a couple of nights ago and he was in the same "frenzy". We talked a few minutes and he said he was going to go buy something. He didn't know what, but he had to get out and get something for Deer Season. We talked a bit more and he wanted to know if he could buy something "for me"! Told him I was in pretty good shape at the moment, but I sure appreciated the offer.

I do normally get a new Face Mask each year and put it in rotation with the others. Occasionally one will fade enough so it isn't really masking, just creates a "White Spot" in the woods and obviously that is no good.

Best of luck on the Antelopes.
 
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I went down to SC last year for the opener. ...It was SOO hot and muggy. I had fun seeing my brother but that was about it. It did no good to even shower in the morning. As soon as we'd step out of the rig, the moist heat would make us sweat by the time we shouldered our .270's.

Mosquitos were using the small uncovered pieces of my flesh for a buffet. Even though I was sporting a BugTamer suit. When we'd get back to his house, we'd do a thorough tick check. I must have removed 15-20 the first hunt. And I'm not talking about just wood ticks, I'm talking deer ticks as well, you know, the tiny ones with Lyme disease.




Hey Doc, Sure makes me "homesick" to hear you speak about our S.C. Flying Teeth.

I could feel the Salty Sweat running in my eyes as I read your post. Ah yes, S.C. Lowcountry Hunting is quite a test of flesh and equipment during the Opener. One of the prefered Prime Times is during a light rain or drizzle when there is no lightning popping around. The Humidity can't really get higher than it already is, so the rain tends to cool things down a bit, force the Flying Teeth to run for cover, makes walking extremely quiet and the Deer pay no attention to it at all.

Darn shame you didn't see any. I think we all have days like that even when we are in serious Deer country. Sometimes they just don't show. Seems like there is always something else to draw my atention though.

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...I'm still loading for Wyoming and Colorado. I didn't draw for KS, but MO is over the counter for archery and rifle. I'll be heading back to my old stomping grounds there from when I was in school in Iowa.

Kentucky: I just picked up another 3000 acres to hunt in Grant, Pendleton Counties, near corn, peas, beans, and tobacco. You have to kick the turkeys out of the way everytime you go to the deer stand. I have a great spot picked out near a creek where I popped a 3 yr old 10 point with my bow last year. I wish I knew how to post a picture so you all could see my collection. I shot that deer at 25 yards from the ground with my Mathews bow.

Ohio: just took on a 1000 acre lease with 14 other hunters on Mead property. This will account for a 5th place to hunt here in Ohio. It's in Scioto Co where the slungers roam. I CAN TAKE ANY GUEST FOR UP TO 3 DAYS EACH FOR ABOUT $20/DAY!! Mead claims this property hasn't been LEGALLY hunted in 6 yrs.




Sounds like you do have some fine Hunts lining up. BIG Deer Season here in KY. I've not gotten back into it, but should. Had a bow back around 1976-1979, but never took it in the woods - Martin Lynx. They sure have come a long way from back then. Lots available to be learned from "good" Archery Hunters if a person just pays attention.

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I have my new Swarovski 20-60x80 STS, Leica 900 rangefinder, all camo: getting organized. Since I'll be driving out to WY by myself to hunt, I'll need to buy a truck cap...any suggestions on brands? Swiss, Leer, Jason, SnugTop, Century???

The last piece of equipment I need is a GPS...cannot decide which kind to buy, Magellan, Garmin, ??




Sounds like you are indeed getting some good equipment. I've never had a Cap for the rear of my trucks, so I can't recommend a thing. Maybe one of the other guys will help, or maybe start a Thread so it will draw folks in.

Can't help on the GPS units either. But I do know there are lots of folks on here that do have them.

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...EVERYBODY GO TO BASS PRO SHOPS WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT IS ON SALE! I GOT MY NEWSLETTER FROM THEM AND YOU CAN GET A COUPLE OF GPS'S FOR UP TO $150 OFF!!




HA, I had mine in my hand when the buddy called that I mentioned to RF above. That sure looks like a fine price on the M700 Muzzleloader - $299.88. It has me doing some thinking about them. Might just have to go "stimulate the Economy" a bit myself.
 
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okie john: Do you live in Oklahoma? I lived in Sand Springs just west of Tulsa for 9+ years...I loved hunting deer in Oklahoma...I hunted on a friends place in Nowata County for many years and I had a great lease down near Stigler. I also hunted around Keystone Lake. I love hunting Oklahoma deer. Where do you hunt?
 
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Hot Core: I am always thinking about hunting, and that includes hunting deer. Sitka blacktail season gets going later in the year and we hunt those out on the big islands. But it is caribou season right now...(it is always caribou season) but the normal season is just getting started.




Hey rwj, Me too! Never had a chance at a Sitka Blacktail. What do you use on them? What do you use on the Caribou?

How do you hunt both of them - sneak up on them? I've seen some of the shows where the Caribou are migrating. Do they migrate all during the Season, or part of it?

Any Bears in your area?
 
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Deer season here won't open until mid-October, but my gear has been ready since just after the last season. I hit the range about once a week this year, and have practiced my field shooting with just one rifle for the last several months. So, yeah, I'm ready.

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rwj Iam shooting a 416 taylor I have been loading some speer mag tips and barnes x bullets both 350grs. For deer I most likely will use some resized .429 300grers at 2250fps they shoot into one hole and recoil is mild.

The biggest bears that get shot in Wis go over 600lbs. the avg is more likey close to 150lbs. I shoot my bears for eating so I like them around 200lbs or so.
 
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p dog shooter: I have never shot a .416 Taylor, but it does sound like a great gun. It sounds like an excellent bear gun and I would use it on any deer anywhere. I suppose if you loaded it the way you describe, with low pressure and small bullets (300/350 gr), it would be a very manageable rifle to shoot. I am a firm believer in big holes going in and big holes coming out. I do own a .416 Weatherby and I love it, but I also always hear good things about the .416 Taylor. I hope you shoot a 200 pounder for the freezer. Good luck.
 
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Hot Core: That whole process sounds like fun. Its going to be a good year. Good luck and be safe.
 
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Hot Core: Blacktail deer can be shot with any of the regular deer rifles (.270, 7mm Rem mag, .30-06) and they are still-hunted and spot and stalked, and you can flush them out in thick stuff and shoot them when they stop for that one last look back to see what spooked them...The one minor problem with hunting deer on some islands is that the biggest brown bears in the world live in the same place. That is not true on all islands (like Prince of Wales Is, where there are no brown bear), but it is true on many of the islands where you can hunt deer. So...your .270 is great for the 160 pound Sitka, but it is just enough to get you into serious trouble with a brown bear. Early in the season, like now, most of the deer are up high and it requires some serious mountian hiking to get to them. Later in the year, the weather drives them down low, so that you do not have to climb mountains..but you do have to contend with inclement and sometimes dangerous weather yourself. Plus you need a boat and/or a plane to get to the islands.

Most good deer rifles with well constructed bullets will work on caribou, .7mmRem mag, .30-06, any of the .300 mags work well, and there are plenty of folks that carry a .338 (in the past I have carried a .338 too). When I am hunting caribou in the fall I am always armed to shoot a brown bear so I carry my .378 Wby with .250 gr. or 260 gr. or 300 gr Nosler Partitions or Swifts A Frames. I have shot caribou with this outfit and it did not seem too much....although it is well documented that caribou can be easily killed with much less than a .378! When I hunt caribou in late winter or early spring (Feb/March) I carry .300 Wby shooting 180 gr. Nolser Partitions.

The basic method of getting caribou does have a lot to do with anticipating their migration routes: You want to get right down in front of their direction of movement...you get in front of them and ambush them as they pass by. If you are in a good location, it is truely an amazing thing to see...the caribou will come right through camp and all around you and this my last 24 hours a day for days or a week or more. Sometimes it is not like that (they are not actually in camp and you cannot see them from camp..which to me is a bad sign!) so you have to work a little harder to make yourself some good luck and you have go look for them. It is wonderful though.

And yes, there are bears, both black and brown, just about every where.

I hope you have good deer season. You may have answered this already, but how do you hunt your deer...from a stand? I hunted deer in Oklahoma for more than a few years and all the best hunting methods included sitting patiently in a tree stand with my bow, rifle, or muzzleloader. I loved doing that too. Keep us posted and good luck.
 
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I have been ready all year long. I have played with the hogs and a few other critters throughout the year to keep the freezer full but as the weather cools it will be time to get serious about the issue and neglect the house etc. . I was out last night shooting my new montana 280, McMillan stock, zeiss 3x9 off the hood of the truck to tune it to paper (appx 1" @100) and I will fine tune this weekend from the bench. I did the same with my 06 the other day after receiving it back from the gunsmith, a problem arose with it that will require another trip to the doctor, as I took off the safety the rifle fired. It was something I was afraid might happen eventually, I am going to ship it out and have a 3pos installed. I am also going to check my 300wby this weekend in preperation for Alaska at the end of the month.

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Here in TN, have been checking my food plots each weekend. The cow/black eyed peas and sorghum mix has really come on, perfect rain for them this year. Have fertilized all my persimmon trees, and they are loaded. The sugar pears were abundant, and they have just about been cleaned up. Crab apples are just now starting to fall, and the deer are standing and waiting for them. Starting to see the does lead their fawns out into the open now as they feed in the evening. Saw two really good bucks on a mineral lick Sunday afternoon; bow season is not far off.


Hey worriedman, It has been an excellent year in the Carolinas ans up here in KY for the crops and fruits too. Always interesting to see the Peach Farmers cry and whine about something going wrong in an attempt to raise the prices. This year it was crying about too many Peaches "breaking" the trees! And on and on.

I was just checking some Crab Apples about two days ago. Noticed they are beginning to draw "tracks" around those trees. Where I hunt in the Carolinas we don't have any apples and the Deer won't eat them until they are almost totally rotted. Hard to believe for us, cause we figured they would stampede to them.

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New Encore in 7mm Rem. Mag., have spent a lot of time getting it tuned up. Glass bedded and free floated the barrel, glassed the stock connection, oversized hinge pin from Bellm, topped it with a 4X16 Bushnell Elite with Firefly reticle and Rainguard. I am a big ol' fat boy, and during the cold mornings, my scope would always fog up, no matter what I used to keep that down, so I have the new scope, we will see.


Great Deer caliber. What Bullet will you be using? I burned a whole lot of H870 in mine over the years, but it sure burned dirty with the 140gr and 150gr bullets. Had pretty good luck with H4831 but found H1000 to be my favorite. I tried the "RL-19 & RL-22" powders, but they seemed to be slightly erratic as I got right at the SAFE MAX.

For what ever reason, my 7mmRemMag shoots the 140gr Partition "tighter" than it will the 140gr B-Tips or both 150gr styles. I've got some good old 145gr Hot-Cor bullets with the H1000 fuel ready to go right now. Great cartridge.

Tell us about that "Firefly" scope. If you "charge it" with a flashlight, does it glow bright enough to "overpower" a Deer during twilight? If so, could you just "charge it" an hour or so earlier and it still be glowing but at a reduced intensity?

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Picked up a K and M Neck Turning tool, flash hole uniformer, and primer pocket uniformer, spent a lot of time in the hospital with my wife this summer, the nurses thought that I was a little strange, sitting beside her bed, working on brass over the garbage can, had a visit from the security people, some one must have told them I was making "bullets" in the hospital, but the guy was a hunter, and got a laugh out of the deal, figured with the new rifle, I might as well do everything I could to get the loaded rounds just right.


Speaks well for the Hospital Staff to be "watchful" during this time period and even moreso for the Security Guy understanding what you were really doing. I also like to do all the little Case Prep Tricks to build confidence in the final Hunting Loads.

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This weekend, I start cutting shooting lanes and clearing some pathways around my stand sites. Crop rotation has corn in the bottom fields this year, so I am switching my stand locations to that end of the property for bow season. Cannot wait!


Hard for me to pick which crop I like to hunt the best. Corn can be about perfect on a good year like this one. But, I sure do like a Bean or Cotton field too. Seems like the Corn fields always seem to draw Deer in after the corn is cut better than the others though due to the corn that gets left in the field. Always nice to watch them enter a cut/disked field and watch them kick an ear out of the ground.

Sure sounds like a fine Season ahead of you. Best of luck.
 
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Hot Core,

The only rifle I am taking to AK is my 300wby with 180gr partitions and it will be for moose and black bear, I am thinking again about taking the 280 for the bear though. I am also shipping a couple shotguns up there to shoot some birds as well, grouse, ducks etc.

I like the Montana rifle, the bolt slides a bit clunky but that will smooth out the more I work it, I should have it smoothed out shortly . I do like it enough to order a 375 H&H built on the action and I will finish it off the same as my 280 with a McMillan stock and zeiss scope.

I have 4 cases (1600 rounds)of win 280rem in fail safe 140gr so that is what I am shooting in that gun right now and I have 4 cases of the same in 150gr for my 06, so for a while I will shoot them up, depending on the hunt. I do not reload as my time will not permit another hobby, I have to sneak the time to shoot my rifles with all of my traveling and catch up work when I get home.

I did enjoy shooting the 280 last night, my wife also went with me and shot, we had a good time and she had forgotten how much fun it can be.

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I like my taylor it is on a ruger Mk2 stainless with a douglas stainless 25 in barrel. I can push 350s out to 2450 with out trouble 300 to over 2600. I find 350s at 2350 a lot nicer to shoot then 2450. 300s at 2250 very nice and should be good killers. I haven't try 400s yet but am thinking 2250 should be just right. I shooting my guns to be fun not a chore.

Your Wby puts them out a lot faster I am glad you enjoy it.
 
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I have been ready all year long. I have played with the hogs and a few other critters throughout the year to keep the freezer full but as the weather cools it will be time to get serious about the issue and neglect the house etc. .


Hey Doug, Yes indeed, the Hogs do make a fine Off Deer Season hunt. Always nice to be able to get afield, but having the ability to put some pig in the freezer is a real bonus. I can tell you from "vast experience" it is OK to let the house go during Deer Season as long as you keep "The Boss" happy!

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I was out last night shooting my new montana 280, McMillan stock, zeiss 3x9 off the hood of the truck to tune it to paper (appx 1" @100) and I will fine tune this weekend from the bench. I did the same with my 06 the other day after receiving it back from the gunsmith, a problem arose with it that will require another trip to the doctor, as I took off the safety the rifle fired. It was something I was afraid might happen eventually, I am going to ship it out and have a 3pos installed. I am also going to check my 300wby this weekend in preperation for Alaska at the end of the month.

Doug


What Bullets will you be using in each of them? And tell us about that Montana in comparison with your other rifles. I've seen a few guys speak very highly of them. Seems like they shoot great right out of the box(after cleaning).

You going for Deer? Bear? Caribou? Sheep? in Alaska? Best of luck on the Hunt.
 
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Man Iam not going cape bufflo hunting next year. Good luck with it. I'll try some 400grers yet just haven't gotton around to it.
 
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p dog shooter: I like my .416 Wby and while it does have stout recoil, it is not too bad. Mine has a 24" barrel and a break. I reload all my bullets, following the manuals, and they are not that bad to shoot. It shoots some bullets faster than some .416s, but not by much. I simply like the idea that this gun shoots a 400 grain bullet . I plan on shooting cape buffalo with it next year.

I hope you have a good season this year and that your wife shoots a nice bear. I like black bear hunting. Keep us informed and post photos when you get them.
 
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