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I bought a hunt at the local SCI fundraiser over a year ago. Hunt was for 2 hunters for 1 pig each. The outfitter is local but is NOT Kyler who posts here who I have hunted with in the past and been successful. Any way, my friend and I booked a hunt for a year ago May and spent a weekend hunting but saw no pigs. We rebooked for last August and my friend got his pig. Since then, I have been staying in touch with the outfitter every month or so but he keeps telling me he hasn't seen any pigs although he is booked just about every weekend with pig, deer and elk hunters. Since I live only about 20 miles away, I have told him I can come out on a week day or morning or whatever. Now I can't even get him to return my phone calls. Should I just chalk this up to experience and give up? I don't think I will ever buy another auction hunt because it seems that the outfitter puts you low on the priority list. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | ||
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Hi Russ, I'm really sorry to hear about this trouble. (Mike told me the story a couple weeks ago.) While I haven't spoken with this outfitter in several years (getting leases is pretty competitive so I can't say we're "friendly"), I do know he lost about 80% of his leased property, but I think it was a corporate/business decision and not his fault. In the past I've had that happen too and it's a huge scramble to take care of everyone when you lose most of your hunting area. Also, in general, the pig numbers aren't good. In my operation we've done pretty well over the last couple months, but one of the ranches we hunt has really fallen off, so this outfitter may be experiencing the same decrease in numbers. The practice of not returning phone calls or explaining the situation is inexcusable, so I can't blame you for being frustrated with that. But he's on a very short list of what I would call "stand up guys" among the local outfitters so hopefully when he can get his leases back sorted out he'll come through for you in the end. Best of luck, Kyler | |||
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I like to support organizations at auctions, but now, if I bid on anything, it's something I can carry out of there that night. I know there are tons of hunters who have had great hunts off auctions, but to me, it's just human nature (and logical) that the guy paying full bore is going to get the best customer service. My first trip to Zim was off a donated hunt at a CCA banquet. Come to find out, the Dallas "rep" (typical high-energy, "go-go-go", bs'r) was in the process of being fired when he donated it and he had no real authority to donate the hunt. He just happened to mention to the home office that hunters were headed in and it happened to be Ian Gibson handling things. We had a great time and I've hunted with Ian since, but I realized that, had it not been for Ian's integrity, it could have been the trip from hell. That cured me from "auction fever" that involve hunts. | |||
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I agree that not returning calls is inexcusable. I've had a year of hell trying to get a fishing guide to return my call / deposit. First and foremost guiding for hunters and fishersis a people / service industry. Some folks seem to forget that | |||
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Based on the above, is the moral of the story - don't buy donated hunts? Is the norm or the aberration? | |||
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aberration. in the last 10 years i have bought 13-14 auction hunts and fishing trips from SCI. 2 fell through for reasons beyond anyone's control and SCI refunded my money immediately. on all trips i received exemplary service and never felt that i was being treated any differently than anyone else. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Well it sounds like you purchased 1 hunt and went twice. Sounds like a great deal to me. It is called hunting afterall and listening to the expectations of killing seems like a sour apple. Hope that didn't sound too harsh, but everyone is looking past the fact that you got to hunt twice and had a 50% success rate for your payment.
I would say chalk it up to a hunt and experience to carry a weapon in attempt to harvest an animal. Go to the next banquet and buy another because you got 2 experiences for the price of one. | |||
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MC, I don't think you understand the post. The purchased hunt was...you will each get an opportunity at a pig. In other words, you get to keep coming back until I put each of you on a pig. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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What he said. That's the distinction between "hunting" and "shooting". Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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Sure if it was an elk hunt, but this was sold as 2 pigs guaranteed. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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