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I have used Nikon monarch scopes for hunting the last 33years .I just heard the are getting out of the rifle scope business .I guess I will have to buy another one or two .They also said they would not service them any more which really sucks .I hate for them to do this .I am not a huge Leopold fan but I guess I will have to start .
 
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It's a shit company that pulls the rug out from under you when they won't any longer service their products !

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Caving to the anti gun movement


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I am not a huge Leopold fan but I guess I will have to start .



I have two VX 3 Leupolds for sale.


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Given there are more than 25 scope brands available in the US, I am surprised there are not more exits.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Caving to the anti gun movement


I do believe they are.
 
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It's probally sales because people are not buying guns ,scopes and ammo like they were .I am really disappointed In the statement they will no longer service them . They will be useless if anything happens then no other manufactor will service them .I have had really good luck with Nikon scopes but this is not the way any company should treat loyal people who stood by them for 30 years .I remember when sears ,Penny's ,riches and davisions quit selling guns I quit going there. I guess Leopold will increase their prices now .
 
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I highly doubt Leupold will raise their prices given the existing competition from:

Burris,
Bushnell
Weaver
Minox
Vortex


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10137 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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There are probably 15 known commodity rifle scope companies and another 20 plus that are Chinese made shit with another new name.

Nikon has sucked at rifle scopes for a long time. I have recently owned 2 of their 30mm 3-12 and 3.5-10 scopes, at about the $350-500 mark and they were both dogshit.

So many names to compete with, and so many other shit companies to buy a shit product from.

They were great in their hay day, but that was a while ago.
 
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No more Nikon for me.

Too many other options!
 
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I love Vortex


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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Given there are more than 25 scope brands available in the US, I am surprised there are not more exits.

All from about five manufacturers. Branding and marketing is where far too much of the cost of rifle scopes has been. Contrary to what we might assume, dropping a brand and its associated marketing overhead from the universe of scopes probably has the effect of lowering rather than raising prices -- or at least overhead costs.
 
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I have 3 Nikon scopes right now.Never had a problem with any Nikon scopes I have owned,but did have a rangefinder take a dump.I will keep using the scopes as long as they work.
 
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The rifle scope division of Nikon has been the company's bastard stepchild for a long time.
 
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Originally posted by Lapidary:
The rifle scope division of Nikon has been the company's bastard stepchild for a long time.


I think you're right, I seem to remember Doug saying something like he couldn't sell Nikon riflescopes in his store if he wanted to carry their cameras. That's a stupid policy IMO, but I don't get paid the big bucks.
 
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I used Nikon monarchs in Alaska 12 years through total hell .I trust them on my 416s 338-378 and 338 win mag .I am buying about three more Nikon monarch scopes they work aweslne with my aging eyes .I accidently dropped two out of a tree 30 foot didn't hurt them .I am three scopes short still and Nikon works for me .I hate they did this .I think I have bought almost 40 Nikon through the years .
 
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It's probally sales because people are not buying guns ,scopes and ammo like they were .I am really disappointed In the statement they will no longer service them . They will be useless if anything happens then no other manufactor will service them .I have had really good luck with Nikon scopes but this is not the way any company should treat loyal people who stood by them for 30 years .I remember when sears ,Penny's ,riches and davisions quit selling guns I quit going there. I guess Leopold will increase their prices now .

I agree with you that pulling out of the riflescope business has to do with sales. Unlike years ago, nowadays there are numerous small and large companies that produce scopes of all kinds. The same is happening to the large gun manufacturers, some going out of business. In fact, there are numerous self-employed and insured gun makers, who with a couple of helpers can build a custom or semi-custom gun at a fraction of what it would cost for a large company to produce in their custom shop. You can have a gunsmith building a rifle for you with parts that are produced by different manufacturers, or even from parts (barrels, and so on) that they produce themselves.

I have had noting but good luck and service with the mid-priced (Vary-X III) Leupold scopes. Have also used a 10x20mm BCA Leica pocket binocular for the past 30 years.
 
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Ihave been using Leupolds for more years than I can count but more than 50 and Ive never had a problem, that they didn't fix in a hurry..that includes many Leupolds I bought second hand at pawnshops and gun shows..therefore I cannot imagine why anyone would not be satisfied with a Leupold, other than in ones imagination? Roll Eyes


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There are a lot of optics companies that toute a lifetime warranty

But.....the best warranty is the one you never have to use


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