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25 November 2012, 23:57
Kebs
Black Bear 30/30
We now have a black bear season in my home county. I have never hunted BB, but I believe I will be spending a little time doing so this year.

I have and .243 and a 30/30. I was wondering if the 30/30 will be an adequate weapon. I am thinking 170 grain bullets loaded hot would do the trick. Shots will be short, under 50 yards in all likelihood.

Please advise on cartridge selection and or overall intelligence of a 30/30.
26 November 2012, 00:44
Bobby Tomek
No need to load them "hot." A standard 30-30 loading will suffice quite nicely on a black bear at the ranges you mention. Good luck with the hunting...


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26 November 2012, 01:46
458Win
I too agree that the 30-30 should be perfectly adequate for your hunt.


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26 November 2012, 01:49
Snellstrom
I agree with Bobby Tomek. And Phil
The 30/30 is completely adequate and no reason to hot load it. If your rifle likes 170's then shoot them, if it likes 150's then shoot those.
The 30/30 has killed more Bears large and small than most people could fathom, my personal feelings are that it is way under estimated as a cartridge.
Have fun Bear hunting
26 November 2012, 05:10
p dog shooter
Place a 170 grainer out of your 30-30 behind the front shoulder and you well have a bear rug and some fine eating.
26 November 2012, 05:39
Kebs
Sounds good guys. I have been shooting 150's for deer, but I will sight in some 170's to see how they shoot.
26 November 2012, 05:45
Bobby Tomek
Snellstrom-You are right on the money with that statement. While I use the Ackley Improved version as the case shape is much better suited to the single shot Contenders I favor, the velocities are still in the pedestrian ballpark of the ol' 30-30. I've taken at least a couple dozen animals with the chambering, and its effectiveness must be seen to be appreciated. Here are just a few…




























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26 November 2012, 07:07
taylorce1
Damn fine collection of kills with the AI Bobby! I have a bud that took a darn nice pronghorn at a little over 200 yards with the .30-30 AI and 125 grain BT in a Contender pistol.
26 November 2012, 08:48
buckeyeshooter
Probably millions of black bear have been killed with a 170 grain round nose!
26 November 2012, 09:10
ravenr


a little bigger than a bear,
That rifle has accounted for 20+ elk,
another moose and uncountable deer and antelope.
30-30 is plenty of rifle for lots of game.
26 November 2012, 09:33
Bobby Tomek
Nice moose! Just goes to show what a simple bullet at modest velocity can accomplish. I'm sure the big magnums burning 100+ grains of powder are nice, but they are definitely not for me. I'll take my little 7mm Bullberry or 30-30 AI Contenders any day and never feel undergunned.






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26 November 2012, 17:58
Crazyhorseconsulting
In our modern world of whizz bang magnums/ultra-mags/short mags and super short mags, many people forget that cartridge like the 30-30, 38-55, 45-70, 7x57 & 8x57, 32 Win. Special, ad infinitum of generations old cartridges that were around before the magnum craze saw light of day, can and do still kill game quite well.


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27 November 2012, 18:08
Kebs
Thanks again for all the replies. I guess I was getting caught up in the hype. My hunting partner thinks anything less then a 30'06 is a bunny gun.
28 November 2012, 23:06
p dog shooter
I even shot bunnies with my 06. Big Grin
29 November 2012, 02:00
Mikelravy
Since most black bears are shot at close range over bait a 30/30 is ok.
29 November 2012, 05:09
retreever
Many bears fall to 30/30's in Penna. every year. The 170gr. Will work.

Mike


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