My wife and I were talking about criminal punishment,
in general, the other day, and we decided that the
convictions, for murder, that carry the death penalty,
should be summarily executed, directly after the first
unsuccessful appeal. Now we just have to
work on getting the Death Penalty reinstated in
in Wisconsin.

In this case, I think Mr. Vang, upon conviction, should
be turned over to the survivors, and families of the slain.
Let them get closure in their own way. I detest the
notion that my tax dollars are going to support this
animal, until old age takes him. Here is to hoping that
the guests of the Wisconsin Department of Corrections find
a way to give him the same treatment they gave Jeffery
Dahmer.

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convictions, for murder, that carry the death penalty, should be summarily executed, directly after the first unsuccessful appeal.

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Couldn't aggre more. But why not bring back public hangings? I believe that a "prime time"(no pay per view) hanging would do more to curb future crime than just sticking a needle in some slime's arm so he goes to sleep takes the reality out of it. I think that watching them drag a crying felon up the steps, putting the hood over his head all the time he is crying for forgiveness, then tripping the lever so he takes that short drop, the kicking his last as he dances to the tune of the rope might just make others think twice before committing the crime. For Vang a hanging is just what he deserves. He called the tune, let him dance to it. Lawdog

Here's a proposal to solve the crime problem in America and the economic ones in Africa!

You send each criminal to serve his/her sentance in Zimbabwe. We charge you 2/3 of what it costs to incarserate a person in the states.

This was actually given serious copnsideration before relations between our countries deteriorated

The advantages:- you save 33% on costs (cost of the airfair out comes off the payment to zim)
:- We gain a well fed worker who we will get at least a years hard labour (our prisoners work a 14 hr day) out of the criminal before malnutrition set in and we had to feed him properly. Also (as per the studdy done 6 years ago) It cost us 1/12 to keep a prisoner compared to the USA. That price will have dropped considerably now, so we make a huge proffit.

When you work a 14 hr day, on starvation rations and spend your spare time in a cell with no electrisity (or ablutions) and are only allowed one sheet of paper for letters etc every alternate week, you don't get too many degrees! - except in brick making or road building.

Spanish jails are cushy compared to ours. Suicide is preferable to a second term, so you wouldn't get too many repeat offenders. We find that this sort of "rehabilitation" works better than counciling.

Lawdog,

In this conversation, with my wife, about the death
penalty, we had the same thought. Public hanging,
public firing squad, public beheading, should all be
choices, and these choices should be for the victims,
or the victim's family.

As for this tired old arguement about life time
incarceration, being less expensive than execution of
the death penalty, that is because we let the appeal
process drag on through a bunch of self-serving courts,
and lawyers. One appeal, and if it goes against the
defendant, give that person a month to file for a pardon
from the governer, and then execute the sentence...Or send
them to Zimbabwe. I like that plan, too. But it saddens
me to think Americans have gotten so soft as to have to
send their criminals to a foreign land in order to
effectively deal with them, and to demotivate the next
batch of criminal prospects. With modern investigative
methods, like DNA testing, when the proof is iron clad,
and a jury finds for the death penalty, we AMERICANS need
to find the stomach for swift public executions! I would
like to see one of these infamous studies look at just how
many appeals are successful after the first appeal is
not. OK, maybe we could have two appeals, one at the
state level, and one at the federal level, just to cover
the case of corrupt local justice, but then execute
the sentence.

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