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Im thinking Id like to hunt Mountain Lion in 2015; but my searches have left me with more questions then answers. Ive never hunted with dogs before. Are all hunts with dogs?

Im just not sure what to ask.


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Some are killed by calling some are killed hunting other critters.

Most are killed while using hounds.

Running hounds is a very exciting way to hunt.

chilcotin hillbilly who post here runs a out fitting services in BC with hounds and I have heard noting but good him and his hunts.

He would be a great place to start.
 
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My brother hunted with dogs this past February in North Nevada


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I did in BC a few years ago. Link to report in my signature below.
 
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All the hunts seem to stress "chasing" dogs; while Im NOT in the same shape I was when I was 20 and jumping out of airplanes, I can still hike all day--Im just not sure about running up the sides of hills after dogs. Are we talking about long runs or an occasional jog? I don't want to be the guy that blows the hunt because I cant run a marathon.


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I have no criticism of anyone who enjoys the chase of dogs and taking the lion out of a tree. However, to my taste, executing a treed cat at short range doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Before signing on for such a lion hunt be sure to consider the relatively anti-climactic end.
 
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I have no criticism of anyone who enjoys the chase of dogs and taking the lion out of a tree. However, to my taste, executing a treed cat at short range doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Before signing on for such a lion hunt be sure to consider the relatively anti-climactic end.


While I think all hunts are "anti -climatic", I do see your point. I had hoped that there were some other hunting options, such as baiting for leopard, or ???


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I have no criticism of anyone who enjoys the chase of dogs and taking the lion out of a tree. However, to my taste, executing a treed cat at short range doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Before signing on for such a lion hunt be sure to consider the relatively anti-climactic end.


Try it at 7k+ feet in a harsh environment

After a one mile run you try and catch your breath to be able to shoot......

The cat might still be bayed.....or bail and you do it over again


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I have no criticism of anyone who enjoys the chase of dogs and taking the lion out of a tree. However, to my taste, executing a treed cat at short range doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Before signing on for such a lion hunt be sure to consider the relatively anti-climactic end.


I hear the same being said about bears with hounds. Until you have tried it you really don't know how much fun and excitement your missing.
 
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Cracks me up when people like Stonecreek give their opinion on something they have never done.

I went on a mountain lion hunt last winter. I was absolutely one of the funnest hunts I have been on. Beautiful country, amazing watching the guide and dogs work, the chance to use my late Grandfathers old 32 Special.....

I was lucky enough to get a 170 pound tom. I cannot say enough good things about my guide and trip.

PM me for details if you would like.
 
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The current Colorado State record broke Teddy Roosevelt's record that stood for over 100 years. It came from about 25 miles from here. They took another one almost as big, over 190 lbs 2 years after. We have some dang big lions here.
 
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Back in the days gone by, I hunted several times with the Robb boys out of Utah. Its been about 15 years now since I hunted with the boys, and when we started out Val Robb the Father was still alive. Val was a crusty bastard and good friend. A few years after this photo he died of cancer and is missed greatly. Superb hounds men all the boys......



Nothing at all wrong or ugly about hunting cats with dogs... They don't always go in a tree..... I have seen them get in caves and even under the hwy drain pipes, both of which can be rather exhilarating...... And you best be in good shape too, some of these cats can take you on one hell of a trip up and down in the mountains....

Here are the Robb boys...... left to right, Billy, Shaun, and Chris....





I hear of the boys from time to time, and they are still hunting hard as always

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The chase with dogs and keeping up is where it's at on a bear or lion hunt. Taking it from the tree is just the culmination of that hunt like anything else we pull the trigger on!
 
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For those who think maybe hound hunting is too easy, unrewarding or anti-climatic.

With hound hunting you will actually have a "pursuit" where you are going to need to get off your butt and hike cross country sometimes for long distances over horrible terrain. If it all works out you will get a shot at your animal at the end. Often it's just a tough hike there and back again.

Compare that to the majority method of hunting Whitetails by tree stand or blind.

Try both methods of hunting then report back which was more rewarding. For me I don't hunt anything out of a tree stand or blind anymore, but I do still hound hunt.
 
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I had bad weather on my hunt. Took me 11 days before we had a big tom treed. One of the hardest most rewarding things I've ever done. And in my opinion my guide is one if the best around. Just had no snow.
Can wait for my hound hunt for color phased back bears this upcoming June with the same crew.
Good luck!!!
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The chase with dogs and keeping up is where it's at on a bear or lion hunt. Taking it from the tree is just the culmination of that hunt like anything else we pull the trigger on!


EXACTLY!!
 
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If you're comfortable on horseback and don't mind riding some pretty rough country you can try to find an outfitter that uses horses. A neighbor and I used to run Mountain Lions for sport when I lived in Wyoming, he owned the dogs and I owned the horses so it worked pretty good for both of us. I've only ever killed one but I've treed a dozen or so. It's some of the most fun I've had hunting.
 
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It's some of the most fun I've had hunting.


Agreed, but following a dog pack is no guarantee that you will ever see a lion.

Many years ago, I hunted a total of 57 days over three years on horses and mules across southern Arizona's roughest mountains with three different houndsmen before I shot my lion.

The first two men were nice guys, but we were learning how to hunt lions together. We chased deer, coatimundis, javelinas, bobcats, and more than a few lions, but I did not get to pull my rifle out of its scabbard until my third three-day hunt with a well-known Arizona lion and bear guide.

As with fishing where 10 percent of anglers catch 90 percent of the fish that are caught, there is a huge difference between houndsmen and their ability to regularly bring a lion to bay on dry ground in extremely rough and rocky terrain.

I look back at my quest to add a mountain lion to my life list as a learning experience. I don't begrudge having to spend 57 days hunting for a lion because it gave me insights into the haunts and habits of these great cats. Now, wherever I am in lion country, I can find their sign and usually tell whether the track was left by a male or female. I also can look at the outline of one of desert mountain "islands" and figure out where I probably will find their scent pile and scratches.

At 78, I really miss being young enough to hunt them again. For me, they are Arizona's supreme hunting trophy, and a far better trophy than any desert sheep, coues deer of bull elk.

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It's some of the most fun I've had hunting.


Agreed, but following a dog pack is no guarantee that you will ever see a lion.

Many years ago, I hunted a total of 57 days over three years on horses and mules across southern Arizona's roughest mountains with three different houndsmen before I shot my lion.

The first two men were nice guys, but we were learning how to hunt lions together. We chased deer, coatimundis, javelinas, bobcats, and more than a few lions, but I did not get to pull my rifle out of its scabbard until my third three-day hunt with a well-known Arizona lion and bear guide.

As with fishing where 10 percent of anglers catch 90 percent of the fish that are caught, there is a huge difference between houndsmen and their ability to regularly bring a lion to bay on dry ground in extremely rough and rocky terrain.

I look back at my quest to add a mountain lion to my life list as a learning experience. I don't begrudge having to spend 57 days hunting for a lion because it gave me insights into the haunts and habits of these great cats. Now, wherever I am in lion country, I can find their sign and usually tell whether the track was left by a male or female. I also can look at the outline of one of desert mountain "islands" and figure out where I probably will find their scent pile and scratches.

At 78, I really miss being young enough to hunt them again. For me, they are Arizona's supreme hunting trophy, and a far better trophy than any desert sheep, coues deer of bull elk.

Bill Quimby


Really well said Bill.



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I would like to also go after a mountain lion in NA or Canada in 2015 but am just beginning research.
 
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when I buy my hunting license I always buy a Mountain Lion tag, just in case I run across one. My wife calls it Lion repellant.

An ancient Arizona hunter told me, You may hunt the deserts and forest all your life and never see a lion. But they saw you.

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Originally posted by EDELWEISS:
Im thinking Id like to hunt Mountain Lion in 2015; but my searches have left me with more questions then answers. Ive never hunted with dogs before. Are all hunts with dogs?

Im just not sure what to ask.


Give Doug McMann (chilcotin hillbilly) a call at 250-476-1288 and he will provide you with an honest answer to your questions based on his experience. I have hunted cougar with Doug and I can say that he is honest, hard working, knowledgeable, and an excellent houndsmen.

Hunting cougar with hounds is very exciting. There's not a day that passes that I don't think about my cougar hunt and how much fun I had chasing cats in the mountains with Doug and his hounds. Epic.


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Hunting cougar with hounds is very exciting, but not as exciting as hunting them without dogs. The reason I say this is that lions are smart and they can turn the tables on you before you know it. As you track them, it will circle around and track you. By the time you realize it it has been watching you for some time.

They will rarely attack a man unless they are cornered and if you are on horseback your horse will tell you before you have a clue.


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Hunting cougar with hounds is very exciting, but not as exciting as hunting them without dogs. The reason I say this is that lions are smart and they can turn the tables on you before you know it. As you track them, it will circle around and track you. By the time you realize it it has been watching you for some time.

They will rarely attack a man unless they are cornered and if you are on horseback your horse will tell you before you have a clue.


How many lions have you killed in these methods you've out lined here?


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I would like to also go after a mountain lion in NA or Canada in 2015 but am just beginning research.


Check out Doug McMann, the post above you, all reports are excellent and a good number of big cats.
 
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