In the oct 2007 issue of predator xtreme there was a item titled wolves,the rest of the story. this was written by judd cooney.The article states that wolves reintroduced in wyoming in 95 are a hybrid, a mix of dog,wolf,husky and are larger than natures grays. I dont know if there is any connection but CNN on oct 2nd is having a special on planet in peril it showed Anderson Cooper trying to picture wolves out west .i thought one of our national parks. The time i can not pin but thought 8pm or 9pm.If i am wrong i'm sorry, i just caught wind of it.

This is not how I would want to part with my old lab.

MISSOULA - Wolves killed a 10-year-old yellow Labrador retriever in the Ninemile Valley west of Missoula, within 80 yards of a ranch house. By the Associated Press

http://billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/09/30/news/state/48-wolves.txt

http://billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/09/27/news/state/80-wolves.txt

http://billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/09/15/news/state/44-cattle.txt

I wonder how long this will take? And more cost to taxpayers, us in Wyoming, not the wolf lovers. But wait, brent swears the wolf is having no negative effect on elk! So this must
all be lies and BS! Just another way for a state agencey to get more funds from the state!


Wolf control plan criticized
By The Associated Press

An environmental group is claiming a proposal to let states kill packs of endangered wolves that prey on big game herds would result in the eradication of wolves across much of the Northern Rockies.

The Natural Resources Defense Council says "nearly 600 wolves" could be killed in Idaho and Wyoming through aerial gunning operations that would be allowed under the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service proposal.

But federal and state wildlife officials described the group's claim - to be aired in nationwide television advertisements starting today - as "misleading." They said the number of wolves targeted would likely be in the dozens, and only in areas where the animals are a factor driving down elk populations.

"Wolves are here to stay, and it's time for people to understand that," said Steve Nadeau with the Idaho Department of Game and Fish. "But we can't stand by and watch the most renowned elk population in the state of Idaho diminished because we can't hunt wolves." During a decade-long restoration effort that started with just 66 wolves, the region's wolf population has expanded by 20 to 30 percent a year. There are now an estimated 1,545 wolves in Idaho, Wyoming and Montana. That's more than five times the number federal biologists contend is needed to sustain the population.

Federal officials have announced plans to strip wolves of their endangered status by early next year, exposing the animal to public hunting for the first time in decades.

But legal challenges to the delisting are considered a certainty. If the delisting gets hung up in court, federal officials said they want states to have some way to keep wolves in check. That includes the proposal to allow states to kill wolves that prey on wildlife herds.

States would be required to maintain at least 200 wolves each. Montana officials have said they do not intend to take advantage of the program.

Peggy Struhsacker, a wolf specialist with the Natural Resources Defense Council, said she believes Wyoming and Idaho officials would kill as many wolves as possible.

"It's like dealing with them when wolves were being eradicated. The states have not progressed," she said, referring to government-sponsored wolf poisoning campaigns of the early 20th century.

Nadeau's agency already has proposed killing 40 to 50 wolves in the Clearwater River drainage in northern Idaho. That's an area where elk numbers have declined due to wolves, mountain lions, bears and poor habitat.

In Wyoming, officials are developing similar plans to address troubled elk herds east and south of Yellowstone National Park, said John Emmerich, assistant director of the state Game and Fish Department. The plans were not final, but Emmerich said they could entail killing as few as 30 wolves.

Emmerich's agency has said it will ask the Wyoming legislature for $500,000 for wolf removal programs over the next two years.

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"It's like dealing with them when wolves were being eradicated. The states have not progressed," she said, referring to government-sponsored wolf poisoning campaigns of the early 20th century.

Really? Because we will never be allowed to hunt them in Yellowstone national Park, these wolves are here to stay. I would guess there is some excited biologist studying wolf droppings as we speak.

These Canadian Tundra Terrorists act more like packs of wild dogs than noble wolves.

The wolf attacks on people in Canada including the death of one young man were blamed on wolves getting used to people. We seem to be constantly chasing, photographing, trapping, darting and generally getting these wolves used to humans. How long before they don't fear us?

I dealt with wolves for 30 years in N.MN. Terrorists describes them the will kill indescriminatly, way more than they can eat when given the opportunity. Dogs?? I personally know of 12 dogs dragged out from their owners yard and eaten.. This problem here has to be addressed if there is any hope of the northern Yellowstone elk herd recovering.. I think most people know how it was dealt with in MN, the Feds need to get involved and take care of the wolves.

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Originally posted by kudu56:
"Wolves are here to stay, and it's time for people to understand that," said Steve Nadeau with the Idaho Department of Game and Fish. During a decade-long restoration effort that started with just 66 wolves, the region's wolf population has expanded by 20 to 30 percent a year.

Here's an idea.

21 lakes to be poisoned
KALISPELL - Next week, fisheries biologists will begin poisoning remote backcountry lakes high above the Flathead Valley, a controversial project aimed at saving native trout populations.

In some cases, non-natives and cross-breeds have completely snuffed native populations.

The species targeted in this project were originally put there by the same agency now seeking to kill them off, stocked at a time before the implications of hybridization were fully appreciated. - Sep. 22, 2007;

I would like to see these large non-native wolves removed and replaced with wolves similar to those that once roamed the area. The wolves in Minnesota sound like a similar subspecies that were once in the area.

Idaho Fish and Game is trying to put them on the huntable list, May be too little to late, they have devastated our elk and deer herds up north and they are working their way into the very Southern most part of the state...It was a terrible thing propagated by ignorant people that live in pent houses in big cities, Hollywood idiots, and in general the far left who spouted their ignorance with such garbage as preditors eat only the weak and dieing, it would balance nature, and so fourth, what it did is just add another adversity to survival along with bad winters, drought, etc.

These same liberal and Hollywood idiots "hang" in Blane County (Sun Valley, Id.) and build there multi million dollar homes in the middle of the historical elk feeding grounds and chain themselves to trees that are creating a hazard by the highways..they all have a cause, but its always seems to be trite at best. The things that need done seem to interfere with there daily life so that is of no concern to them.

I am surprised the locals have not taken matters into their own hands.

I've hunted units 10 and 20A in Idaho. I would think it would be a pretty simple matter to take wolves out in the more remote sections of 10 and pretty much anywhere in 20A. I was within 20 yards of two of them in Unit 10 my last time there ('02, Bacon & Bean area). I was chastized by locals when they heard about my close encounters and that I did not shoot them.

We need to quit listening to all of the tree huggers, who have no concept of what damage the wolves are doing. I'm talking at the management level, where decisions are made. We, the people who see what damage they cause, MUST let our feelings be known to those elected officials. We've been too silent up till now.
These knee jerk, irrational, politically correct, wolf loving Liberal jerks are running, and ruining our country.

I would demand that every one of these Liberal losers witness a wolf killing a young Elk, and repeat this as often as it takes for them to "get" the message.

Don

Wolves, who said Sierra Match Kings have no place in the hunting field.

Joe

DMB

I heard that a Outfitter from Wyoming acually filmed a small pack of wolves running down a cow elk, and ripping out her unborn calf from here belly as they tore her open. The wolves left the cow to die a horrible death with her intestine laying on the ground and her nose bitten off, pouring blood every where.

The Outfitter then sent the tape to the USF$W Service. Few weeks later he called to do a follow up and to see if they received the tape. The USF&W told him they never seen the tape.
I just hope he made copies...

Steve

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By 2002, wolf populations exceeded the government's recovery threshold of 100 wolves and 10 breeding pairs for each of the three states.

Now, 5 years later, does anyone think we will be able to hunt these Canadian Tundra Terrorists wolves?

Here's the latest misleading campaign of lying liberals who don't have them living in their backyards. Wolf Click on view video to see the TV ad.

When the Canadian Grey Wolves were transplanted into Idaho in 1995, the original goal as stated by the U.S. F&W Service was to establish 12 breeding adults with no more than 125 wolves, max., throughout the State.

Early this year, I attended a public, general comment meeting at the Idaho F&G Headquarters in Boise, sponsered by the U.S. F&W, Id. F&G, etc.

The U.S. F&G stated that in their last survey, in Idaho alone there were then between 700 to 750 Canadian Grey Wolves, and there were between 72 to 75 breeding adults, meaning 72 to 75 wolf packs. Of course, even though the stated "goal" of 125 wolves had long ago been surpassed, the animal rights freaks, the greenies, bleeding hearts, and all the other anti-hunting groups had made sure that no action could be taken against the most successful predators in the U.S.

Id. F&G hopes to have a hunting season next year on wolves, although it remains to be seen as to how many tags will be issued, and how successful hunters will be..... IF there is even a hunt.

The various animal rights freaks groups, the oblivious, ignorant greenies, etc., have already announced they will throw lawsuit after lawsuit againt any hunting season so no one can hunt wolves legally. And, the various groups have millions upon millions of $$$$ to spoon feed their lawyers.

Meanwhile, the wolves, 24/7/365 killing machines, continue to make a swath through our once abundant game herds.

L.W.

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Id. F&G hopes to have a hunting season next year on wolves, although it remains to be seen as to how many tags will be issued, and how successful hunters will be..... IF there is even a hunt.

If there is not sactioned hunts, which I to don't think we will see, the feds have to step up and keep the numbers down or they to will face lawsuits to control their wolves.

I for one do not believe the "greenies" are so ignorant, not at the leadership level. Maybe the idiots that chain themselves to a tree but not at the top. They know what wolves are doing to the elk populations and this is a good thing to their thinking. Less elk means less hunting or hunters which in their minds is also a good thing. In fact no hunting or hunters would please them even more.

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REMINGTON 33 - "I for one do not believe the "greenies" are so ignorant, not at the leadership level. Maybe the idiots that chain themselves to a tree but not at the top. They know what wolves are doing to the elk populations and this is a good thing to their thinking. Less elk means less hunting or hunters which in their minds is also a good thing. In fact no hunting or hunters would please them even more."

Remington 33, you are 100% correct. The eventual goal is to ban hunting... and then ban firearms.

There is "method to their madness."

L.W.