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16 November 2007, 03:46
jb
any botanists out there identify this plant?
this is what the deer appear to be grazing on out in the bog where harvested.Anyone have an ID on what it is?




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17 November 2007, 02:26
jb
any wild shots in the dark?


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17 November 2007, 03:26
Alan R. McDaniel, Jr.
If it was under water I wold say it was Hydrilla.

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17 November 2007, 06:42
wino
jb, thats princess pine.


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17 November 2007, 08:01
Fjold
Maybe in different areas but princess pine has always been this to me:

http://www.westboroughlandtrust.org/nn/nn46.php


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17 November 2007, 08:14
BUCKMT
It looks like club moss we have here in VA in high elevation bogs.
17 November 2007, 12:03
jb
princess pine is way bigger.when I go back for blackpowder season,I will take another photowith some thing in the photo for scale.


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17 November 2007, 20:59
graybird
Parrotfeather .. 100% no questions asked. If you would like to read a research article about it's control look for it in the Journal of Aquatic Plant Management, 2006 second issue. Look for a guy named C.J. Gray who is the senior author of the paper. Of course, you might just have him right here?! clap


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18 November 2007, 22:31
wino
according to USDA, no parrotfeather in MN. But then again we don't have wolves, moose, or mountain lion in upper michigan either. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=MYAQ2


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18 November 2007, 23:16
ovis
Awned hair cap???????? Or, maybe one of the thread mosses????????

Joe


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19 November 2007, 06:22
graybird
Yeah, no parrotfeather in MN is like saying there isn't any hydrilla in Wisconsin either. Well, I saw a small homeowners pond the last week in August that had hydrilla southeast of Madison, which was treated. Funny, that pond also had three other invasive aquatic species in it.

Trust me, it is parrotfeather!


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19 November 2007, 06:30
wrongtarget
Here are a bunch of pics of parrot feather.

http://www.forestryimages.org/browse/subimages.cfm?SUB=3054
19 November 2007, 06:43
Tundragriz
I have it all over my property in Pa. To me it is moss, makes good toilet paper!
19 November 2007, 06:47
Tundragriz
Do a google image search on sphagnum moss.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lehsd...6safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
19 November 2007, 07:36
wrongtarget
quote:
sphagnum moss

I think Tundragriz nailed it, sphagnum moss gets my vote if I get one!! thumb

http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/images/veg/N.Wet_N.Wet_Mes...phagnum_moss_VK.html
19 November 2007, 16:53
perry
jb
Isn't that the plant you've been smoking to get your opinions on Tx. hunting?

Perry
19 November 2007, 19:13
Copidosoma
It is NOT Sphagnum moss. It is most likely a club moss (genus Lycopodium, check it out on wikipedia). It is pretty common up here in the Boreal.
19 November 2007, 19:21
pdhntr1
JB,

It is sphagnum moss. It looks at though there is a few sprigs of leatherleaf mixed in and the long slender stems are a type of sedge. (bogs and bog plants are a minor hobby of mine)

Sphagnum is used in the floral industry to keep plants from drying out. It acts as a sponge and can hold many times its weight in water. It was also important in the civil war as a dressing for wounds. When cloth dressings ran out, sphagnum was used and they found there was some antiseptic qualities.

Jim


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19 November 2007, 20:33
Copidosoma
If it is a moss it could be Polytrichum juniperinum (Juniper haircap moss) but it is most certainly not any of the Sphagnum species.
I still stand by it being a Lycopod of some sort although the Polytrichum is looking more possible.

And, not to be too argumentative but...
The leaves of the "leatherleaf" appear to be more like a Kalmia Sp. (bog laurel). They aren't green as you would expect (making them look very much like leatherleaf) but this isn't uncommon for plants living out in the bog. I can't tell if they are alternate or opposite from the photo. No flowers, too bad.
19 November 2007, 21:09
wrongtarget
quote:
Juniper haircap moss


I want ta change my vote!! Big Grin

http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Plants/Mo...hum.juniperinum.html




19 November 2007, 22:03
crowrifle
Polytrichum.

I have collected 50,000 metric tons of the stuff while in the sexual stage.
19 November 2007, 22:16
pdhntr1
Well, back to the research. When ever I have grabbed handfulls of the stuff, there was all kinds of sphagnum attached to the bottom and I assumed it was the new growth.

I will have to look more closely. I will be in the bog later this week so will look then. Big Grin

Thanks for the info.

Jim


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19 November 2007, 22:32
Copidosoma
quote:
50,000 metric tons of the stuff


Wow, anyone who needs THAT much has one serious case of the stomach flu. Eeker

I retract my earlier stance by the lycopod guess. Totally not.
19 November 2007, 22:42
crowrifle
I used to work for a biological supply house. We collected it and manually cut the sporophytes from the moss for use in a fern review set.

https://www2.carolina.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Pro...essId=&catalogId=101

50K metric tons may have been a bit of an exaggeration.
19 November 2007, 23:02
wrongtarget
quote:
Originally posted by crowrifle:


I have collected 50,000 metric tons of the stuff while in the sexual stage.


Yours or the moss's sexual stage!!! Big Grin
19 November 2007, 23:25
wino
i change my vote to, i thinks i was drunk when i called it prin pine


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20 November 2007, 02:22
conifer
.looks like Lycopodium to me
20 November 2007, 02:48
Kamo Gari
quote:
Originally posted by wino:
i change my vote to, i thinks i was drunk when i called it prin pine


No shame in that! Smiler


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20 November 2007, 04:12
jb
I thought this was sphagnum moss,from the same bog last year;






another pic of same from a different area of the same bog last year,note the blood from a deer




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21 November 2007, 19:22
Copidosoma
Yup, those last pics are sphagnum