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Sow killed, yearling shot. while attacking bow hunters who used their handguns to defend themselves. https://www.montanaoutdoor.com...ar-west-yellowstone/ | ||
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Their list of prevention is pretty dumb if you are out elk hunting. Make noise? Implying don't use calls. ~Ann   | |||
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You noticed that also.  | |||
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I actually found the advice to be reasonable. I guess you both didn't read the "Residents, recreationists and people who work outdoors " part. The entire world isn't meant to be turned into the prairie states. | |||
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So, actually, I did. Many recent bear attack events have been concerning hunters. Just like this incident. Most of the people out there now aren't going for a nature walk.But, you can always explain to me how an elk hunter will bag their elk by running around out there like hikers. I'm waiting...  ~Ann | |||
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If I'm hunting by myself no way I'm going to be able to move the quarters 150 yards away and hoist it up a tree. That's what decided me to move up from a 243 to a 270 when I moved to Montana, found a grizzly sitting on my deer carcass. Though my days of packing out an elk 10 miles by myself are long gone  Don't miss that part.Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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I guess you can't read the obvious, the advise given was aimed at the general public, i.e., people that live in bear country, people that recreate in any way in bear country and people that work there. So you think miners and loggers as well as other bear in experienced trades and professionals shouldn't need that advice? I do. As to bow hunting in bear country, I consider it prudent and responsible to at least consider your methods before, during and after being a field. Is it wise to be in heavy cover in known bear country with primitive weapons? Can you make a successful bow hunt either calling or from strategic blinds? Is an elk regardless of size worth provoking a bear charge or attack? In my mind shooting a mother and juvenile anything is a bummer. If you have to you have to and that's the way it is, but I personally have shot tons and tons of moose, caught hundreds of pounds of salmon and have never once raised a gun at a bear in dlp. I was told in Zimbabwe that we could talk our way out of shooting a lion, leopard or elephant in self defense, but in order to "dlp" a rhino itd have to gore us first. In my estimation great lengths seem to be taken in Africa to avoid any dlp with the above. That was fine with me and seems to be widely accepted as practice, so why aren't protected bears afforded the same caution? The both of you come of as ignorant, (still,). Shooting sows with cubs can be avoided. | |||
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Where have I heard that before. One can go a life time and never have to shoot a bear in a DLP. Then all of a sudden one ends up shooting one with a 9mm. | |||
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The greater Yellowstone area is overpopulated with grizzlies and has been for a long time. Maybe it happens but I don't know many hunters, rifle or archery, who set in blinds to elk hunt in the mountains. They are always stalking. I also don't know how comparable that is to moose hunting in Alaska? I am not going to make any comparisons to other areas or other game species. You are. I reckon it's different but I also reckon moose hunters aren't sitting in blinds much either. The problem is there are too many bears. I think that adds to their aggressive behavior (an educated speculation) since food competition may spur that. There aren't any salmon streams full of fish in the areas where these bear attacks have occurred. There could be several other reasons too but telling hunters to make noise and not to use calls isn't going to solve the problem. Neither are you, resorting to calling names. Scott, I hope you can calm down and just discuss instead of insult. The feds need to allow some bear hunting to drop the population. Same goes for over populated wolves in other areas of the lower 48. The over protection of predators implies to me that human hunters are not wanted. ~Ann | |||
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I have found it very hard to deal with perfect people. | |||
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100% agree Ann. _________________________ Liberalism is a mental disorder. | |||
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Yeah I always love the "I live with griz and never have to worry about them because I'm smart and prepared." Ya ok. To characterize everyone who is charged by a griz while wilderness hunting as being somehow at fault seems pretty arrogant. That said, why hunt, fish or hike in bear country without proper protection? Granted, you're handcuffed by the idiots running Canada and certain US states but it is what it is. _________________________ Liberalism is a mental disorder. | |||
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Bottom line is Alaskans are allowed to hunt brown/grizzly bears. Lower 48 nope. I think that is wrong, same with the wolf issue. Many places that have both of these species have exceeded their re-population goals and the predators have become a big problem. Not only for hunters but ranchers and other backwoods users. Let's not condemn hunters because some don't think they protected themselves properly. A grizzly bear is a very formidable animal. I would never put a bear over a human life any day, sow or not. They are vastly overpopulated in the greater Yellowstone area. ~Ann | |||
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Appreciate your sentiments Ann. As I get older and more curmudgeony (not a word) I feel we could do with a lot fewer people and a lot more 4 legged predators out here in the West. I'd like to see grizzlies reintroduced to Colorado before I die. I think Northern California could use more than a few as well Either that or take the grizzly off of their flag and put a poodle on it.Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Would you be in favor of a hunting season for them if reintroduced Chuck? Seems to be the only sensible way to interact with apex predators and also a way to protect ungulates from the devastation seen in BC. _________________________ Liberalism is a mental disorder. | |||
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