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14 May 2013, 14:05
Mike Smith
$70,000 Scam involving Blair Worldwide Hunting.
No by all means go right ahead! Wink Then you can come back (maybe) and tell us the story. Whistling


Happiness is a warm gun
14 May 2013, 15:02
Grumulkin
quote:
Originally posted by SmallCal:
This company is unbelievable! More mail and phone calls. Second time I've asked to be taken off the list, third time I turn it over to the Feds since I'm on the do not call list. Never met them, never spoke to them at a show, never gave them my address or phone number. They must get it from hunt drawings.

Do they really think I'd book a hunt on unsolicited e-mails and phone calls?


This is what worked for me. They called me only once. I told them I had read some pretty bad reviews on Accuratereloading.com. They guy said he would look into it and call me back. I haven't heard from them since and that's been 2 or 3 years ago.
18 May 2013, 07:45
larryshores
Since it appears that the family doesn't want to take further action, perhaps everyone should register for the do not call list. Then turn him into the government every time they call.
19 May 2013, 21:21
J.R.Jackson
Back to the top, never forget this.
06 June 2013, 04:46
AnotherAZWriter
boing!


Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair
http://forums.accuratereloadin...821061151#2821061151

27 June 2013, 07:36
AnotherAZWriter
Let's give this thread its just due
And never let it get to page two


Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair
http://forums.accuratereloadin...821061151#2821061151

15 July 2013, 13:05
John Chalmers
Back to the top.jc




16 July 2013, 23:41
larryshores
96,000 views. I wonder if BWW still thinks they were right. This has to have cost them.
17 July 2013, 00:45
AnotherAZWriter
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
96,000 views. I wonder if BWW still thinks they were right. This has to have cost them.


Larry,

I can't believe he thought he was better off ignoring this. Truly dumb.

He is lucky these pages are not exposed to Google Search. For that matter, so is Bill Phifer.

Hey admins, how come you don't expose the forum pages to Google??


Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair
http://forums.accuratereloadin...821061151#2821061151

02 August 2013, 21:23
Huntress71
Latest email from BWW, every week.........
be sure to tell all your hunting buddies!!!!!
From the reports I have heard about the "Kamchtka Bear hunts" you get on an old military helicopter, fly around until you see a bear, land and walk up to the bear and shoot it with a borrowed russian rifle. Some hunt, huh?
Blair is advertizing it as snowmobile hunt. I would guess along the same principals. Drive around on a snowmobile, see a bear, get off and shoot it with a borrowed russian gun. hoooraaa! I'z a bear hunter

Now is your chance to hunt the famed Kamchatka Peninsula, for brown bear.
Best known as the densest populations of brown bears in the world, the
Kamchatka Peninsula, is a natural choice for the serious brown bear hunter.
Especially those of you that have been unsuccessful in North America! This
area has the highest success rates around. Spring hunts are conducted from
snowmobiles. The hunt is 10 days in length and the hunt price includes
guiding, lodging, meals, interpreters, field preparation of trophies and the
license for 1 bear. Our arrival point is Petropavlovsk on the Kamchatka
Peninsula. Hunt price - $12,000.00, Trophy fee - $3000.00. This hunt will be
escorted. (Limited openings in May of 2014 and 2015 - Book your hunt now)

Call our offices at 928-779-2232 and speak with a Hunt Consultant to get
further information on this great hunt. If you are not looking for a bear
hunt, call and put us to work on one of the other 700 hunts that we offer.
Be sure to forward along to your hunting buddies.

Good Hunting!
Jeff, Audra, Sean, Jim, and Dutch

We could start another thread on his crap Russian bear hunts (of which he is part owner). Don't book them, learn from our mistakes!
03 August 2013, 02:43
Huntress71
Don't ever book a hunt with Jeff Blair

http://forums.accuratereloadin...821061151#2821061151
03 August 2013, 04:04
Todd Williams
Huntress71,

Firstly,

Don't ever book a hunt with Jeff Blair! tu2 With you 100% on that one.

Secondly,

The Kamchatka bear hunt as you described is incorrect. You do get an old military helicopter, but that is to fly you from Petro out to the camp. I've done this hunt twice now, but never with Blair, so it's possible that is how Blair conducts his hunts. I don't know for sure.

But just to be certain, these hunts are great fun. It's a real wilderness experience where you don't see an airplane for the entire time in camp. The area is VAST as in Miles and Miles and Miles of nothing but tundra and salmon chocked streams and rivers. It's a real step back in time by about 150 years. I've heard of guys seeing bears from the snowmobile sled and getting off to shoot but I think that is the exception.

Both of my hunts were in the Fall so no snowmobiles. We hiked up and down the streams and rivers for the first few days, then if unsuccessful, we drove an old Russian armored personnel carrier on tank tracks up into the mountains to find the bears in some of the thickest pine bush (not trees but bushes) you can imagine. They are big on doing drives in these areas and I really preferred the hunting along the streams, but it's a completely different world over there, and certainly an experience worth having!

Anyway, not to stray from the anti Blair message as it's a good one. Just wanted to shed a bit of light on the Kamchatka bear hunts. I'd actually like to do it at least once more, but only if they restart the flights from Anchorage to Petro. That's 5.5 hours. Did it the first trip. The second time was DFW, ORD, Frankfurt, Moscow, stay overnight, then on to Petro, stay overnight, then out to the camp. Crossing 14 time zones! Not going to do that one again!

Cheers
03 August 2013, 04:50
AnotherAZWriter
Good post Todd.


Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair
http://forums.accuratereloadin...821061151#2821061151

04 August 2013, 07:18
Huntress71
I copied the bear hunt details from Blairs ad. Went on a spring bear hunt booked through Blair. Definitely not as advertised, not even close. Once we are done with the legal issues I will post details. Just don't book with Blair.
04 August 2013, 08:40
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by Huntress71:
I copied the bear hunt details from Blairs ad. Went on a spring bear hunt booked through Blair. Definitely not as advertised, not even close. Once we are done with the legal issues I will post details. Just don't book with Blair.


Sounds like a disaster. Hope it all works out
19 August 2013, 10:31
TGDjr
Don't Ever Book a Hunt with Jeff Blair.


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21 August 2013, 23:17
505ED
WoW! Just took the time to read through it...What a load of monkey s-*t. I hope there is an extra hot spot in hell for jeff Blair and Mr Larry Heathington. I have been in sales all my life, I have had deals that went bad...I tried like hell to make up for them--sometimes all out of my own pocket. I have been fair with my client base, and I will tell you it has paid time and time again. I have gained some of the best friends in my life--and they have provided me with a very nice living. Too bad Jeff and Larry will never find out what true success is--clients that are friends, and a honest living.

Welcome to the top again!
Ed


DRSS Member
25 August 2013, 03:31
larryshores
Is Heathington still alive?
27 August 2013, 22:13
Full Roar
I seriously get a advertising email from BBW every other day. It would appear that they are getting desperate for more bookings judging by all the emails I get
Copied and pasted todays email, been just deleting them


Don't wait until your hunt is sold, Book it now. Call Blair WorldWide
Hunting at 928-779-2232. Book it now and pay it off over time.

Marco Polo Sheep available in Tadjikistan or Kyrgyzstan - these rams are
known for their dramatic spiral horns and we think they are the most
beautiful, certainly the highest ranging sheep. Get out and hunt them while
you can! Hunt 10 days with horses in Kyrgyzstan OR 7 days by Jeep and
walking in Tadjikistan. 2014 & 2015 hunts available. Hunts must be booked a
year in advance for CITES permitting.

Brown Bear - now is your chance to hunt the famed Kamchatka Peninsula, for
brown bear. Hunt with your friends from the same camp - 4 to 5 clients per
camp. The Kamchatka Peninsula is best known as the densest populations of
Brown Bears in the world, the Kamchatka Peninsula, is a natural choice for
the serious brown bear hunter. Especially those of you that have been
unsuccessful in North America! Spring hunts are usually conducted from
snowmobiles and fall hunts use APC's. The hunt is 10 days in length and the
hunt price includes guiding, lodging, meals, interpreters, field preparation
of trophies and the license for 1 bear. Our arrival point is Petropavlovsk
on the Kamchatka Peninsula. Fall hunters can fly via Alaska
Hunt price - $12,000.00 + trophy fee. 2014 & 2015 hunts are booking now.

Mid Asian Ibex - the most majestic of all the Ibex. Arrival point in
Kirgizia is Bishkek, and then hunters will drive to camp. Your price
includes 7 full days of hunting and the trophy fee for 1 IBEX. Additional
Ibex may be hunted for trophy fees. This hunt is now the absolute best value
for your Ibex hunting dollar as it is the least expensive Ibex hunt around,
now that Mongolia has raised their prices. Hunt price - $8,000.00

NOTE: We are losing more and more countries to hunt in Africa. If you have
been thinking about a Leopard, Lion Elephant or Cape Buffalo Safari - now is
the time to get it done!

Please call our offices at 928-779-2232 and speak with a Sales Consultant to
book one of these great hunts. We do accept all forms of payment for
deposits. If the hunt that you are looking for is not listed, call or visit
our website blairworldwide.com and put us to work on one of the other hunts
that we offer. Have you joined the Blair WorldWide Hunting Disc. Club yet?
Forward this message along to your hunting buddies!

Good Hunting!
The Staff
28 August 2013, 15:09
David Culpepper
quote:
Originally posted by Full Roar:
I seriously get a advertising email from BBW every other day. It would appear that they are getting desperate for more bookings judging by all the emails I get
Copied and pasted todays email, been just deleting them


Don't wait until your hunt is sold, Book it now. Call Blair WorldWide
Hunting at 928-779-2232. Book it now and pay it off over time.

Marco Polo Sheep available in Tadjikistan or Kyrgyzstan - these rams are
known for their dramatic spiral horns and we think they are the most
beautiful, certainly the highest ranging sheep. Get out and hunt them while
you can! Hunt 10 days with horses in Kyrgyzstan OR 7 days by Jeep and
walking in Tadjikistan. 2014 & 2015 hunts available. Hunts must be booked a
year in advance for CITES permitting.

Brown Bear - now is your chance to hunt the famed Kamchatka Peninsula, for
brown bear. Hunt with your friends from the same camp - 4 to 5 clients per
camp. The Kamchatka Peninsula is best known as the densest populations of
Brown Bears in the world, the Kamchatka Peninsula, is a natural choice for
the serious brown bear hunter. Especially those of you that have been
unsuccessful in North America! Spring hunts are usually conducted from
snowmobiles and fall hunts use APC's. The hunt is 10 days in length and the
hunt price includes guiding, lodging, meals, interpreters, field preparation
of trophies and the license for 1 bear. Our arrival point is Petropavlovsk
on the Kamchatka Peninsula. Fall hunters can fly via Alaska
Hunt price - $12,000.00 + trophy fee. 2014 & 2015 hunts are booking now.

Mid Asian Ibex - the most majestic of all the Ibex. Arrival point in
Kirgizia is Bishkek, and then hunters will drive to camp. Your price
includes 7 full days of hunting and the trophy fee for 1 IBEX. Additional
Ibex may be hunted for trophy fees. This hunt is now the absolute best value
for your Ibex hunting dollar as it is the least expensive Ibex hunt around,
now that Mongolia has raised their prices. Hunt price - $8,000.00

NOTE: We are losing more and more countries to hunt in Africa. If you have
been thinking about a Leopard, Lion Elephant or Cape Buffalo Safari - now is
the time to get it done!

Please call our offices at 928-779-2232 and speak with a Sales Consultant to
book one of these great hunts. We do accept all forms of payment for
deposits. If the hunt that you are looking for is not listed, call or visit
our website blairworldwide.com and put us to work on one of the other hunts
that we offer. Have you joined the Blair WorldWide Hunting Disc. Club yet?
Forward this message along to your hunting buddies!

Good Hunting!
The Staff


You should correct it for them and email it back. Add sheep hunt, cost $70,000 and you get nothing, no hunt, no sheep and no refund.


Good Hunting,

28 August 2013, 19:00
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by David Culpepper:

You should correct it for them and email it back. Add sheep hunt, cost $70,000 and you get nothing, no hunt, no sheep and no refund.


Yep! Hard to believe that ass clown still advertises that there are no gambles when you book with him
28 August 2013, 19:01
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Is Heathington still alive?


Probably so. If the good die young that sorry son of a bitch might live forever
30 August 2013, 01:28
larryshores
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
Is Heathington still alive?


Probably so. If the good die young that sorry son of a bitch might live forever


Drummond:

You are right. I hear he is still alive.

I am still shocked by BWW's attitude/behavior.
09 September 2013, 23:06
DTala
ttt....


Birmingham, Al
12 September 2013, 02:31
Jack D Bold
One Hundred Thousand views and counting. Are you out there, Blair?


"You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin
12 September 2013, 02:37
larryshores
He is out there all right.
12 September 2013, 11:16
georgeld
After reading the notation on Gato's posts all over A/R I just happened onto this thread several days ago. Been reading at it a few hours the past four nights. Hell of a deal that's for sure.

Since I don't give a damn, and do it for the fun of it and run up their expenses on advertizing I called the other night asking them to mail me their stuff. Hasn't been long enough to get it yet.

Sorry to hear about the family. Apparently their well off enough to absorb such a loss. I sure couldn't do so. I have been thinking of making a PG hunt IF n when my health problems settledown.

Wish you all well and good hunting this fall.
George


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George L. Dwight
12 September 2013, 22:13
larryshores
George:

You might be right. However, there were other victims of the same scam. One of those mortgaged him house to buy the hunt. I am sure he remembers BWW every single month and will for a very long time to come.
12 September 2013, 22:18
Highlander7
I gone through this thread a couple of times since becoming a member of AR. I never clicked on the website link until now. First... does Jeff know it's the 20th Century because the site looks like sh@t! You think with the money he took he could use it towards a major upgrade. Second... from the site "We want you as a client for a lifetime and no detail is left to chance. There are no gambles when you book with Blair WorldWide Hunting." I can't believe this guy. Talk about someone with no morals.

U.S. Army. Retired.


MSG, USA (Ret.) Armor
NRA Life Memeber
14 September 2013, 01:30
cessna
I just read my latest issue of Safari Times. A full page ad by Blair, really.
14 September 2013, 01:40
Larry Sellers
Just saw the same ad. Most know I really support SCI, but their continuing to accept Blairs' money for ads, knowing he is a crook, is a little disheartening.

I'll try and call/e-mail the ad folks at SCI and get their thoughts and reasoning on dealing with him.

Larry Sellers
SCI (International) Life Member
quote:
Originally posted by cessna:
I just read my latest issue of Safari Times. A full page ad by Blair, really.

14 September 2013, 20:56
cessna
Good luck with that Larry. As much as I support SCI, it's probably about ad money.
24 September 2013, 01:41
billrquimby
There are other possibilities:

1. The publications director and his advertising staff are unaware of the Blair/Heathington issue.

2. They do know about it, but are reluctant to refuse to sell space to Blair because it might open them and the club to a lawsuit. So far, Blair has not been found guilty of wrongdoing by a court of law and SCI's ethics committee has taken no action on complaints against him.

Bill Quimby
24 September 2013, 03:30
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by billrquimby:
There are other possibilities:

1. The publications director and his advertising staff are unaware of the Blair/Heathington issue.

2. They do know about it, but are reluctant to refuse to sell space to Blair because it might open them and the club to a lawsuit. So far, Blair has not been found guilty of wrongdoing by a court of law and SCI's ethics committee has taken no action on complaints against him.

Bill Quimby


1. SCI knows

2. They should have the right to refuse service to anybody they so choose. This tells me all I need to know about SCI
24 September 2013, 04:42
dogcat
I redirected my money to DSC...
24 September 2013, 05:04
JudgeG
I got an email offer from Blair this last week. I requested information on Mexican sheep hunt offers.

I wonder why I've received no response?


JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.
24 September 2013, 05:17
butchloc
quote:
posted 24 September 2013 05:04 Hide Post
I got an email offer from Blair this last week. I requested information on Mexican sheep hunt offers.

I wonder why I've received no response?

good show ernest damn good show
24 September 2013, 06:26
larryshores
Yup. Pretty damn funny!
24 September 2013, 07:05
JGRaider
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:

1. SCI knows

2. They should have the right to refuse service to anybody they so choose. This tells me all I need to know about SCI


You bet they know, you bet they don't care. Screw SCI.
10 October 2013, 21:19
pagosawingnut
I got an email from them yesterday as well as a mailing. I promptly responded to their email asking/telling them to stop sending me emails, calling me, sending offers in the mail and referenced this thread on AR. Their response was all in caps and told me that I didn't know what I was talking about. Said they had been cleared in court and that I would be deleted from their system. I responded by saying thank you.
that should stop their bs from my end anyway.