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It seems very nice. In 30-06, What do you think?
 
Posts: 1282 | Location: here | Registered: 26 January 2002Reply With Quote
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The stock is better designed than other CZ�s. I would definitely give it a try. There are no open sights as on the other CZ�s.

Anybody who knows me, knows that I have to say that: consider a 9.3x62 and a good low power variable scope ( 2.2-9, 2.2-5, 1.5-6x42 ) and you are ready for anything except Ele, Rhino, Hippo and perhaps for Buff its not optimum.

Add a CZ or Steyr 6.5x55 with a high power scope for those mountains ...

Have fun! Hermann
 
Posts: 828 | Location: Europe | Registered: 13 June 2001Reply With Quote
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Having bought the Lux version of the 550, I can tell you right now the taller you are the shorter a chair you might need to bench it (Lux version) to sight it in. other than that, the dropping comb isn't all to in tolerable for off hand or kneeling position shooting.

And, of course i've got to agree with Herman on this one, be the first kid on your block with a new toy in 9.3x62, it's pretty damned efficient, and it'll have everyone around doing double takes at that 'exotic' 'oddball' cartridge you were fool enough to buy [Wink] [Big Grin] [Cool]
 
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As in my other post....the CZ 550 is the best deal going right now...hands down. I agree with the other boys...the 9.3x62 is thee caliber. Recoil is not bad and anything from whitetail to Cape Buff is in serious trouble. I love my CZs! Gary.
 
Posts: 1970 | Location: NE Georgia, USA | Registered: 21 March 2002Reply With Quote
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All this talk of the 9.3x62 makes me realise I need one, the only trouble I am having is that my next couple of purchases are booked in but after that I was considering a .375 CZ what would the 9.3x62 offer over the .375 H&H are they different enough to warrant both??
 
Posts: 7505 | Location: Australia | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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PC, let's look at it this way:

how many guns do you need?

one more than you currently own. [Wink]

worry about different this and different that when you're old and cranky. [Big Grin]

[ 06-08-2002, 00:29: Message edited by: Curtis_Lemay ]
 
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Another word I need to get both, anway's I would load the 9.3 with BT's and the .375 H&H with woodeligh's. I reckon the 9.3 would be a great pig gun.
 
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what i mean is, don't agonize over it, if you want both get them once the money comes to hand.
 
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This would probably be my first rifle. How is the recoil on the 9.3X62 cartridge? Is this a good first rifle caliber?

Thanks.
 
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PC...the 9.3x62 is about 97% of the power of the 375 H&H, about 65-70% of the recoil, and with equal bullets, penetrates better! I cannot think of one thing the 375 can do that the 9.3 can't do. The 375 may shoot a little flatter.....but not much. The sectional density of the .366 bullets are higher than those of the .375 variety. These two rounds are VERY close in performance but the 9.3 kicks SUBSTANTIALLY less. Try one for yourself. Gary.
 
Posts: 1970 | Location: NE Georgia, USA | Registered: 21 March 2002Reply With Quote
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thanks to all for this post and it's replies! i have a cz mod 550 in 6.5x55 and it's all i'll ever need for anything i hunt......except for the stuff that requires a 9.3x62! seriously, a 550 in 9.3x62 WILL be my next rifle. the next thing i want for my wall is a BIG pig. i can't thing of a better cartridge for big pigs unless it's maybe a 35 whelen and cz don't chamber it so it's out. i'll go with a cz in 9.3x62. cheers...bud
 
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GarBy:
PC...the 9.3x62 is about 97% of the power of the 375 H&H, about 65-70% of the recoil, and with equal bullets, penetrates better! Gary.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure that you are talking about 9.3X62? because the 9.3X64 have similar velocity thna .375 H&H but the 9.3X62 and 9.3X74R have less velocity. Anyway all 9.3 caliber are great. [Big Grin]
 
Posts: 831 | Location: BELGIUM | Registered: 23 May 2002Reply With Quote
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GarBy,

To have 97% of the power the 9.3 X 62 would need to achieve about 98.5% of te 375 H&H velocities with bullets of equal weight. That would be quitean achievement fora smaller case anda slightly bigger bore.

If look across a range of loading data the difference in vleocity between the 9,3 X 62 and 375 H&H is about what you would expect with the difference in case capacities and bore diameters.

Mike
 
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Well, I wouldn't normally get involved in such a debate, but when the numbers are this far off...

According to the admittedly only data source I have that treats both the 9.3x62 and the .375 H&H (Barnes), the 9.3x62 produces 84% of the energy, on average, that the .375 does.

I got this by taking the max energy numbers provided for each cartridge and averaging them.

Came out to 3762 ft lbs vs 4467 ft lbs.

Garby: How do you get 97% of the power? What numbers are you using and where do you get them from?

Tim
 
Posts: 1541 | Location: Romance, Missouri | Registered: 04 March 2002Reply With Quote
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PC:

I am contemplating a CZ in 9.3x62 as well, but id it is going to be your first venture into that bore diameter area you might need to consider that most African countries do not allow you to hunt dangerous game such as Buffalo with a 9.3 and the .375 is the minimum. If you have no plans to go to Africa, then that is not a consideration, of course.
 
Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001Reply With Quote
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@PC,...then why don�t get yourself an CZ in 416Rigby [Wink] or 458Winmag which can easy be upgraded to an 458LOTT [Big Grin] . I think than you have enough power and gun to kill everything on earth.
The .375H&H for plains game and the big Lott for Buffs and....everything else [Cool]

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Posts: 334 | Location: Berlin, Germany | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Konst,
I already have a cz in .416 Rigby (and I love it)and am building a .585 Nyatti on a 602 BRNO. I just need to fill a couple of gaps between my 30/06 and my .416. I do not think I would put a .458 cal bigbore in my collection because I could down load the .585 to the .458 power levels if I want to.

I will have to get boht the 9.3x62 and .375 H&H in cz's eventually.
 
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OK...OK...I hit the wrong button...I MEANT to say 87%....that's what I get for fast typing skills....sorry. BUT....I stand behind my contention that the 9.3x62 is as good as the 375 H&H,...and here's why. For the bigger stuff (Eland and up), the higher sectional density of the .366 bullets will penetrate better than the .375 bullets (given the same type of bullet, of course). Additionally, the 9.3, by its SLOWER velocity, will tend to have a more uniform performance, straight-line penetration, etc. Hunting the larger game is NOT the place to play the velocity game, in my opinion. I think that my opinion is shared by numerous gents that have far more experience in these matters than I do. But, all being said, it is just my OPINION. Gary.
 
Posts: 1970 | Location: NE Georgia, USA | Registered: 21 March 2002Reply With Quote
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My decision between 9.3x62 and .375 HH was as follows:

1.) 9.3x62 in full stocked version. This because the 62 has somewhat limited case capacity for the heavy bullets it throws, therefore powders in the 4064 burning range should be fine. ( Already bought, nothing shot up to now. Will try Lapua and PMP 286 grs first, have heard fine things about Norma�s 232 Vulkan on smaller species ).

2.) .375 H&H in long barreld bolt gun ( CZ 550, Whitworth = Zastava, Win 70 ??? ). 260 grs Nosler Part for Europe, 300 grainers for the rest of the World.

3.) 450 NE 3 1/4" double if I hit the jackpot ...
( Merkel, Heym ev. Krieghoff )

Recoil of 9.3x62 is mild, even with that less than optimum stock. Its definitely in the �06 class, although energywise its rather a 300 to 338 Win mag ...

Hermann
 
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How strong are CZ actions? Are they as strong as the original mausers?
 
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Well Cool Guy,

if it's any indication, AHR (American Hunting Rifles) build all their rifles (and magnum cartridges) on CZ550 actions.
 
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Rigby also used to make there rifles on the 602 action.
 
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I have one in .270 win. the stock is a little long but it is my most accurate factory rifle!
 
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I do not know why but all cz's shoot great, both my hornet and my .416 shoot really well, as does my older Brno Model 2 .22 rimfire. I will definitely be adding more cz's to my collection.
 
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All CZ rifle are accurate out of the box.

But nothing can be more accurate than CZ rifle with a Lothar Walther barrel fitted by a good gunsmith.

This CZ modify worth some of other custom rifles like M70 made by custom shop. But for less money [Wink]
 
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I have two 550 Americans and a Brno 602. One 550 in 9.3x62 I had rechambered to 9.3x64. The other 550 in 7x57 is at the shop being rechambered to 7x64. The 602 is a custom .460WM. Good value for the money. Cobalt
 
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Cobalt do you like the 602 action ?? I am having a .585 built on one and am kind of wishing I were getting it built on a 550.
 
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