Hi Folks,
Here is the reply I received today from Barnes concerning my inquiry about the new bullets:

Thanks for choosing Barnes Bullets. Yes, the Tripple Shock X Bullet is comming. You will be impressed by what this bullet has to offer. This X Bullet has three rings on the shank that provides significantly increased velocity, reduced pressures, reduced fouling, and best of all, increased accuracy in more rifles. This is the very same X Bullet that has been time tested and proven to have more one shot kills. Its solid copper construction provides no fragmentation and maximum penetration, up to 28% deeper than the best lead-core bullets. On impact , the bullet face opens to create four razor sharp cuttting edges. We are very excited to get this on the market and the tooling is in the process of being built so that these can be produced at a reasonable cost. Currently, we project the following offers in the Triple Shock X-Bullet. We expect that these bullets will be available in March/April of 2003.

6mm 95 grain FB
25 caliber 100 and 115 grain BT
270 caliber 130 grain BT
7mm 140 BT and 160 FB
30 caliber 150, 168 and 180 grain BT


We won't be coating any of them with the XLC coating, because we have found the extra rings to produce the same, sometimes better, results than the XLC coating.
Thanks for your input and support of our products. We look forward to hearing from you again.
May the wind be in your face, Be sure not to pull it, May you have one shot kills, And always use Barnes Bullets.
Ty Herring
Barnes Bullets
Customer Service Rep
TyHerring@directinet.com
P.O Box 215
American Fork
Ut. 84003
Tel 801.756.4222
1.800.574.9200
Fax 801.756.2465
www.barnesbullets.com

[ 01-07-2003, 19:04: Message edited by: hillbillybear ]

Wonder if these will not cause the pressure problems in TC Contenders like their predecessors.

Sounds to me like Barnes has taken the X-bullet and given it driving bands, a la GS Custom or Northfork. Not as much bearing surface, so no need to coat to reduce fouling. Higher velocities, less pressure - sounds like the GS Custom website!

Bill

They apparently dropped the "Ringtail" name. Do a search in the Reloading section of this website using "Ringtail" as a criteria.

Russ

[ 01-07-2003, 02:31: Message edited by: Russell E. Taylor ]

I just got off the phone with Ty. (Great guy.)

I'm starting a campaign, here.

There CURRENTLY are NO PLANS for any "Triple Shocks" in .375-caliber. However, he has had a number of requests for a 225-grain, Triple Shock "X" in .375-caliber. I asked, "What would it take?"

He said if about 25 or 30 guys called him or wrote to him, he felt that would make it happen. As I explained to him, for each guy that's already called him, there are probably 20 or 30 guys who'd LOVE such a bullet but just haven't called and probably never will. So... if you want this bullet (a .375-caliber, 225-grain Triple Shock "X"), call or write to Ty (information posted above in this thread) and MAKE IT HAPPEN!

They're still shooting for March/April. I still think it'll be September... but who knows? Anyway... start calling and writing.

Russ

[ 01-07-2003, 02:28: Message edited by: Russell E. Taylor ]

Sure would like to see those in 210 - 225 gr .338.

Turok

Russell E.,
I just e-mailed my .375 Triple Shock request to Ty at Barnes bullets.

Good Shooting,
HBB

Looks like Barnes has been looking at the HV bullet on the GS Custom website.

Oh great - Barnes attempting to make yet another �magic� bullet. Guess you can shoot around corners with this one. I would just be impressed if more than 10% of us could get the damn things to shoot straight.

Sign me up for the .338's. The current line shoots on target for me, plus they do great kills. No complaints here

I'm still trying to get them to do a run of 200 grain flat points for the 33WCF like those loaded in the 30-30

Wonder how many part used single boxes of these will be sitting in cupboards ten years from now

how straight do you need them to shoot ?
the 257 "X" 100 grainer cuts cloverleafs at 200 yds out of my gun ?
the 308 "X" 180 grainer shoots 1" at the same 200 yards... Im happy, maybe I settle too quick ?

[ 01-07-2003, 16:38: Message edited by: Bily Lovec ]

I'm thinking that SOME of you guys that havent been able to get the X's to shoot just havent seated them deep enough....I know that Barnes reccomends .050" off but I couldnt get the 130s or the 140s to group out of two rifles until I seated them .095" off of the rifiling in a Win M70 in 300WSM. I know it looks like it is going to fall into the case. But both of these will shoot sub MOA. I would have given up before I got that deep had I not accidently left my seating die set up for a 165 SST. I seated a Barnes measured the COL and said damn...what the hell I'll try a few at this depth.......They worked and have put numerous white-tails in freezers this winter.
I say bring on the driving bands..but I may still moly coat them.

Maybe when we are meeting outside the Barnes booth at SCI (friday 3:00 PM for those who are attending and don't know), we can all lobby en masse...

I'd like to see 300 grns. myself.

Take Care,

-Steve

Bily,
What 25 caliber are you using? I'd love to get a good load for my 257 Roberts.

Bob257

Bob257

I have had great accuracy with the 90 gr BT X. This is out of a 25/06. That same gun only shoots the 115 grain flat base OK. The bullet is a great deer killer too

Hcliff

Well, I am not "one of the guys" but I did write in the interest of a .375 H&H caliber.

[ 01-07-2003, 23:04: Message edited by: Aspen Hill Farm ]

Way to go, Ann! We need more women requesting new bullets!

Thanks for asking.

Russ

Ann,

Since when are you not one of the guys?!

Good Hunting,

Count me in to lobby for the 210-225gr .338 bullets.. I would love to try those in my .340...

bob,
its a 257 weatherby mag. sorry

Sent my request for .338 and .375 projectiles. Would like to see the medium weights because they have such nice ballistic coefficients. Should yield very good long range ballistics while providing the toughness for shorter shots!

Thanks for the info Guys!

(Ann ... we sometimes include Ladies in the group of knowledgeable "guys." Certainly not intended to imply that Ladies cannot be knowledgeable. Rather, I'd like to think it's simply a coming to terms with with the idea that capabilities are not gender restricted ... and we have no historically vetted phrases for such mixed gender groups.)

I'll give them a try. Have used GS HV in my 25-06 and they shot really well for me. Just hate to have to order 6months ahead for bullets. Sure would be nice to order in the states and receive in a reasonable time. Till then maybe I can get these barnes to shoot.

ZeroDrift,

I agree that few get the Barnes to group well, but take note that many of us do and if more used more innovative loading techniques they too could. The ladder method of load development is one of those techniques and you don't gobble up alot of bullets in the process. Email me and I can fill you in if you are not already aware of it.

Deke.