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You know I have hunted with both and other than the ease of immediately dumping the magazine...there is no real advantage. The adl should make for a lighter gun...as stock material is generally lighter than steel but we are tlking an ounce or two... Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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In my opinion there are, Positives= Able to unload rapidly & ease of cleaning. Negatives= Have to feed all cartriges through the action & more parts to go wrong. I use the floorplates on my rifles, for what it's worth. Doug | |||
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I have never accidently dumped the ammo out of my magazine.I will not own an adl as they are much slower to load and unload. | |||
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Well, I confess, I rarely if ever unload using the hinged floorplate. I just feed them until they pop free from the mag, and pocket them (no need to run them into the chamber). I guess I don't see why is an ADL slower to load than a BDL... I am not concerned about dumping ammo - that has never happened to me either. I am more concerned about taking a spill and cracking that factory BDL bottom metal on a rock... I have a spare Williams all-steel ADL style triggerguard, so that is what got me thinking about the ADL McMillan... Thanks for the input... | ||
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I've never had the floorplate pop open on me either, but if your worried about that just simply put a piece of electric tape over it. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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Well, how would you feel if you did that to the ADL stock? It would be permanently damaged. At least if it happened to a metal floor plate, it could be replaced. I am sort of indifferent to the choice, but FWIW, all I've ever owned is the BDL style and I have no use for the ADL style. I think any wt difference is negligible. I also think the floor plate makes a better looking rifle. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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It would take an enormous blow (more than I could inflcit by falling on it) to do such damage to a McMillan. The factory BDL bottom metal is FAR more fragile. Moreover, even if it did happen, I would send it back to McMillan and they would replace the stock for free - they have a lifetime - no fault - if the stock ever breaks we'll replace it type warranty. The more I post on this thread, the more I think I have answered my own question. I think ADL is the way to go with that Williams triggerguard - both mag an trigger would be as safe as possible from damage. Fewer moving parts... | ||
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Good warranty. I wasn't aware of that. There ya go, good luck, and kill a lot a stuff. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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McMillan is top drawer, which is is why they cost $400+ for a standard sporter stock. Great product and great warranty. | ||
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I load and unload through the floorplate,hence the bdl is faster to load. | |||
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Well, that being the case, BDL would DEFINITELY be faster... | ||
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I have been loading and unloading the 700bdl actions through the floorplate for 30 years without a misfeed,yet I rarely see anyone else load their bdl in this manner.However,after observing me load my rifles,several friends have begun loading their bdls through the floorplate as well.Like me,they find it quicker and more convenient. That being said,I recently converted one of my 7mmstws over to a detachable mag.I bought the factory remington hardware and had mcmillan inlet one of their bdl stocks to accept the remington detachable mag system.I am very pleased with the functioning and convenience that it provides. | |||
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