I have a issue and I thought I would post it to see what your thoughts would be on the matter
Last year I got together a hunting trip of that consisted of bro in laws and one other friend
After himming and hawing over which to ask I ended asking one in particular that I thought would not go but as a surprise to me and everyone else he signed up
and the two teams of two left at separate times to our Idaho elk hunting trip
we all couldn't go at the same time because of work obligations
fast forward to this past winter and I come to find out that the one guy that I thought would not go in the first place is now planning a return trip to Montana with a totally separate individual but he neglected to ask me if I would like to go
As most of you know Montana has a application deadline of early March
I am not certain if I should be as pissed as I am at this guy or not but it seems to me the respectful thing would have been to ask if I wanted to go as well

Though I don't have any good advice, I can appreciate your frustration. Just be glad he isn't taking his new pal along to the honeyhole you showed him. I hate it when that happens...

I have found that the following to hold true:

You loose your honey hole/hunting spot the moment you show it someone else.

Sorry to hear this has happened, but it has happened to all of us who have hunted with others over the years.

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Originally posted by DesertRam:
Though I don't have any good advice, I can appreciate your frustration. Just be glad he isn't taking his new pal along to the honeyhole you showed him. I hate it when that happens...

I agree at least he isn't going back to where you hunted the previous fall. I have to wonder if your friend wasn't invited on this hunt. Are you sure that this MT hunt was one he planned?

The next time you go to Idaho,you won't have to worry about whether to ask the fellow to go.

Yeah the plan had to have been made over the past winter.I agree that he will not be sharing my camp again,ever.But it seems as tough he tried to hide the fact that he even applied in the first place.Just very .........

This is a prime example of getting P.O.ed. No one cares but you. If you are upset, let it go. For now, he owns you. Get over it and hunt.

I really don't want to say what you are a prime example of
but thanks for your words of wisdom

Find a better partner. I only got 1 maybe 2. And only one knows where most of my hot spots are. All I have to say is forget him and move on.

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Originally posted by kennedy:
Find a better partner. I only got 1 maybe 2. And only one knows where most of my hot spots are. All I have to say is forget him and move on.

agreed

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Originally posted by MC:
I have found that the following to hold true:

You loose your honey hole/hunting spot the moment you show it someone else.

Sorry to hear this has happened, but it has happened to all of us who have hunted with others over the years.

A secret is something told to one person at a time.

aaa hell, I'll go against the grain and say you should let the guy know exactly how you feel.

Call him up and tell him you're upset that the back scratchin only went one way and that he's no longer welcome in your camps in the future.

I don't want to pry, but you did post that you invited him thinking he wouldn't go, so just so that you know, it makes us readers wonder why you'd invite someone you didn't figure would go anyway.

Not picking sides, but is this a small example of what comes around goes around? Did you invite him just to be nice and say you did thinking he'd not be going anyway? Just being sincere.

he is a relation of sort
that is considered by many to be not much of a hunter
that is exactly what the outfitter and the guide had both said to me
so when he accepted it was quite a shock to say the least
I guess I was expecting to carry most of his load but I figured that he should at least have respected the fact that I asked him and should have returned the favor but maybe that is way out in left
I guess like most of you all have said to consider the source and move on
Still rubs me the wrong way

If it bothers you, which it obviously does, I'll go along with Doc and suggest you talk it over with him. It can either clear the air or confirm that he is someone to scratch off your list for specific reasons, not possibly unfounded suspicions.

I can easily think of several scenarios that would explain the situation, including his semi-secretiveness. For instance, his partner may be an old friend who invited him on a two person hunt, or it could be his best friend, which you obviously, based on how you described inviting him, are not. Finally, and I could go on guessing, he may have felt that you treated him like a neophyte in Idaho and he didn't appreciate it, even if he was. I detect a slight undercurrent that you may not really have wanted him to come along to start with. If that was the case, those feelings of yours could easily have been picked up on by him during the hunt. I'm not casting any blame here, but there is another side to the story. All in all, it is just one of those things that may or may not have a satisfactory explanation from your POV but you'll never really know unless you discuss it.

Gatogordo has made some very good points his post and you may consider yet another. He is an in-law, and is getting into the hunting game. He may be uncomfortable hunting with you and your buddies because he just isn't up to your skill level. Maybe he just wants to learn the ropes, so to speak. I'd certainly talk it out with him, relatives are darn near forever. Just my $.02 for what it's worth.
Shotgun

If I invited someone new to hunting to hunt with me, I would be happy if they went, just to introduce them. If they wanted to go on their own thereafter, then great because then they can be another member of the hunting community and so on. Just because he went on a hunt without you doesn't mean he was giving you the shaft. If he WAS giving you the shaft, then you need to talk.

White Eagle,

If I were you I would feel exactly the same. My advise is to evaluate why you suck at picking hunting partners and probably friends, and figure out how to do a hell of a lot better job at it or you are going to have a lifetime of similar experiences.

The guy just did you the biggest favor in the world! You no longer have to worry about inviting his ass anywhere, and since you seem to not really like him that is a gift, so take it as one.