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WYOMING GRIZZLIES SHIPPED TO CALIFORNIA SIGNED INTO LAW
GOV. MARK GORDON SIGNED BILL INTO LAW

By EHUNTR -February 20, 2019
WYOMING GRIZZLIES SHIPPED


Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon signed several bills into law late last week. One particular bill would allow grizzly hunts to take place if the state feels that its needed.

“The grizzly bear population in the greater Yellowstone ecosystem has recovered by all measurable recovery criteria, since at least 2003, with approximately seven hundred (700) grizzly bears currently living in the ecosystem;” Bill SF0093

Another part of the bill includes the relocation of problems bears to states that have a below average number of bears. In particular, the state of California!

“Grizzly bears are trapped and relocated in Wyoming and in some cases are euthanized for livestock depredation, property damage or endangerment of human life. If the game and fish commission determines under the laws of the state of Wyoming that extraterritorial relocation would be beneficial for managing Wyoming’s wildlife and protecting Wyoming workers and other citizens and tourists of the state, the game and fish commission may relocate to the state of California, to states with a grizzly bear population below the threshold for Endangered Species Act protection or to other willing states with suitable habitat all grizzly bears trapped for relocation.” Bill SF0093

The flag of the state of California does have the Grizzly Bear on it, is it time for them to reintroduce Grizzlies? The last Grizzly Bear to roam the state of California was killed back in 1922, in Tulare County. Since then the state has enjoyed freedom from some of the problems that unmanaged Grizzly Bears can create.

Could we see a new Grizzly Bear hunt in the state of Wyoming? The new Wyoming Game and Fish Director, Brian Nesvick believes that Grizzlies should be managed like other species. Management of animals is key for any state and should not be overlooked simply because of the animal being managed. Science has shown that this type of management works. It should be scientifically based, and not based on emotion alone.

The bill was introduced on 1/16/19, and just over a month ago it was signed into Law. A big win for hunters and conservationists in the state of Wyoming.

I like it!
Ship angry grizzly bears to California.
Liberals, taste like chicken.

M

Yowsah!!!

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Originally posted by Mark Clark:
I like it!
Ship angry grizzly bears to California.
Liberals, taste like chicken.

M

Ship them to Colorado, we need the joggers to run faster here!

that's not a Grizzly on the California flag it's a Golden bear.

I understand Washington is also in line to get some Grizzly's.

Ahh hell Chuck!

I was thinking a perfect place would be
San Fran!!
Might clean up some of the scum.

George

I think Griffith Park would be ideal for grizzly relocation. What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.nationalparkstrave...e-grizzly-bear-hunts



Groups Challenge Law Allowing Wyoming To Stage Grizzly Bear Hunts

By Kurt Repanshek on February 21st, 2019


Two days after word broke that Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon had signed into law legislation calling for a grizzly bear hunt in the state, conservation groups filed notice to sue the state.

“This is an egregious attempt to ignore federal law protecting Yellowstone’s iconic grizzly bears,” said Bonnie Rice, senior representative with Sierra Club’s Our Wild America campaign, two days after Traveler reported the bill signing. “We will not idly stand by while Wyoming moves to illegally take authority for managing grizzly bears and subject them to trophy hunts.”

Grizzly bears in Wyoming are listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. In September a federal judge struck down an attempt by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove federal protection for grizzlies in the greater Yellowstone ecosystem, thwarting Wyoming’s plan to hold a fall hunting season.

Last September grizzly bears that roam the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem regained protection from hunters under the Endangered Species Act due to a judge's ruling that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service did not adequately consider how delisting the bears would impact the species as a whole when it moved to delist the species from the act. That ruling brought a halt to planned grizzly bear hunts in Wyoming and Idaho.

But during the current legislative session politicians in Wyoming passed a bill to authorize the Game and Fish Commission to schedule a hunt if it "would be beneficial for managing Wyoming's wildlife and protecting Wyoming workers and other citizens and tourists of the state..." Last Friday the measure was signed into law by Gov. Gordon.

The legislation also said the commission might "relocate to the state of California all grizzly bears trapped for relocation or that would otherwise be euthanized."

“Wyoming seems to be stuck in a 19th century mindset in which the response to every situation is to kill off native predators,” said Erik Molvar, a wildlife biologist and executive director at Western Watersheds Project. “It’s a good thing we have federal laws like the Endangered Species Act to limit the harm from states like Wyoming that seem bent on marking certain wildlife for eradication.”

At the Center for Biological Diversity, Noah Greenwald, the organization's endangered species director, said the move by Wyoming's politicians shows "that the state is far from ready to manage grizzlies.”

The notice of intent to sue says the Wyoming law violates the Endangered Species Act and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which requires that federal law must supersede state law

“This state law directly and unlawfully conflicts with the clear mandate of the federal Endangered Species Act that grizzly bears not be shot by trophy hunters seeking their heads and hides for bragging rights,” said Nicholas Arrivo, a staff attorney with the Humane Society of the United States."

https://www.humanesociety.org/...k-grizzly-bear-hunts



Press Release February 20, 2019

Groups Challenge New Law Allowing Wyoming to OK Grizzly Bear Hunts
New State Law Ignores Federal Court Ruling, Enables Grizzly Hunts



CHEYENNE, Wyo.— The Sierra Club, Center for Biological Diversity, Humane Society of the United States, Western Watersheds Project, and Wyoming Wildlife Advocates today filed a notice of intent to sue over a new state law that would give the Wyoming Game and Fish Commission authority to manage grizzlies, including the authorization of a hunting season as early as this spring.

“This is an egregious attempt to ignore federal law protecting Yellowstone’s iconic grizzly bears,” said Bonnie Rice, Senior Representative with Sierra Club’s Our Wild America campaign. “We will not idly stand by while Wyoming moves to illegally take authority for managing grizzly bears and subject them to trophy hunts.”

Grizzly bears in Wyoming are listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act. In September, a federal judge struck down an attempt by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove federal protection for grizzlies in the greater Yellowstone ecosystem, thwarting Wyoming’s plan to hold a fall hunting season.

“Wyoming seems to be stuck in a 19th-Century mindset in which the response to every situation is to kill off native predators,” said Erik Molvar, a wildlife biologist and Executive Director with Western Watersheds Project. “It’s a good thing we have federal laws like the Endangered Species Act to limit the harm from states like Wyoming that seem bent on marking certain wildlife for eradication.”

In response, last week the Wyoming Legislature passed bill SF0093, which purports to give the Wyoming Game and Fish Commission authority to ignore the federal court’s decision. Governor Mark Gordon has signed the bill into law.

That bill would enable the commission to plan future grizzly bear hunts if it decides that a hunt “would be beneficial for managing Wyoming’s wildlife and for protecting Wyoming workers and other citizens and tourists of the state.”

“It’s outrageous that Wyoming would blatantly ignore federal law to satisfy its thirst to kill grizzly bears,” said Andrea Santarsiere, a senior attorney at the Center for Biological Diversity. “Moves like this show that the state is far from ready to manage grizzlies.”

Today’s notice of intent to sue says the Wyoming law violates the Endangered Species Act and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which requires that federal law must supersede state law.

“This state law directly and unlawfully conflicts with the clear mandate of the federal Endangered Species Act that grizzly bears not be shot by trophy hunters seeking their heads and hides for bragging rights,” said Nicholas Arrivo, staff attorney with the Humane Society of the United States.

“The state of Wyoming has continually made it clear that they want to offer sport hunting of grizzlies for “recreational opportunity.” Going so far as to defy federal law to cater to the bloodlust of trophy hunters is incomprehensible,” said Kristin Combs, program director at Wyoming Wildlife Advocates.

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Originally posted by Lamar:
that's not a Grizzly on the California flag it's a Golden bear.

Can you explain? All of the information I have seen states that the bear on the flag is a grizzly.

Is it possible that "golden bear" is a local name for grizzly?

If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

Gives Smokey the Bear a whole new meaning ...

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

Sure you can it if is a liberal cause.

@ JBrown -

the bear on the CA flag is a grizzly ...

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

they always taught us in school the state flag had a [now and then extinct] golden bear on it.
I never could see a difference, but that's what they taught us in the San Francisco and San Jose schools I attended in the 60's

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

But look how gentle they are!

Lets see, with a predator to prey ratio of 1:100 necessary for a proper balance, we would need about 300,000 grizzlies to adequately control California's population. I think we will have to go further than Wyo. to get all the bears we need.
C.G.B.

I'm all for reintroducing grizzlies. I lived, hunted and guided in Western Montana from the late 60s to 1980 and spent a lot of time in the Bob Marshall. Sure it puts a little edge on tent camping (used to just use a ground cloth and a tarp instead), but damn it just makes you feel so much more alive when you have an apex predator out there with you. If you're not stupid or very unlucky, the risk is small.

Don't worry, the way the California Dept of Fish and Game has managed the condors, they might as well euthanize the bears instead of shipping them.

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Originally posted by Blacktailer:
Don't worry, the way the California Dept of Fish and Game has managed the condors, they might as well euthanize the bears instead of shipping them.

Experience here has proven, bear relocations seldom work and usually result in the mortality of the animal. Grizzlies like to wander and won't stay where the "experts " want them to. They have a mind of their own.

Grizz

Remember the disease potential from the filth in the streets of San Fran.
What about NYC and washington,dc, they deserve a few too.

Lot's of people here rising to the 'fake news' bait. California once had a fine population of grizzly bears and they grew to large sizes. But the last one was seen by a trail crew in Kings Canyon National Park in 1926.

California is the state that everyone loves to hate, and haters gotta hate.

AT
California native

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Originally posted by chuck375:
If you're not stupid

This IS California we are talking about.

Apparently one Timothy Treadwell/Grizzly man wasnt enough for the animals are people too crowd to learn a damn thing.

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

Only Liberals can. You can't have the 10 commandments in a Courthouse because of the separation of church and state (which doesnt even exist in the Constitution). But when it comes to the 2nd amendment, States can go right ahead and ignore it if they want. So does Federal law superseded states rights, or doesnt it? You tell me.

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Originally posted by Alec Torres:
Lot's of people here rising to the 'fake news' bait. California once had a fine population of grizzly bears and they grew to large sizes. But the last one was seen by a trail crew in Kings Canyon National Park in 1926.

California is the state that everyone loves to hate, and haters gotta hate.

AT
California native

30 million people in California, good luck finding enough wilderness for a viable population of Grizzlies, these days.

Grizz

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30 million people in California, good luck finding enough wilderness for a viable population of Grizzlies, these days.

Grizzlies don't need wilderness they just need people who are willing tolerate them in their back yards.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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30 million people in California, good luck finding enough wilderness for a viable population of Grizzlies, these days.

Grizzlies don't need wilderness they just need people to snack on

Fixed it for ya.

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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:

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Originally posted by analog_peninsula:
If Colorado can ignore Federal law on marijuana, it would seem Wyoming can ignore Federal law on grizzly bears. You can’t have it both ways.

Only Liberals can. You can't have the 10 commandments in a Courthouse because of the separation of church and state (which doesnt even exist in the Constitution). But when it comes to the 2nd amendment, States can go right ahead and ignore it if they want. So does Federal law superseded states rights, or doesnt it? You tell me.

We don't need the 10 commandments in the court house, we should post the constitution including the bill of rights in each one, maybe underline freedom of religion ?

they should release them in San Francisco... plenty of sweet meat there to fatten them up!

Just let them eat the fatties, leave those gorgeous willowly california blondes alone

Going to replace my .357 Mag Kit Gun with a .44 Mag. Wish I have not sold my .460 Rem Mag.

California had a different subspecies of grizzly said to be very large.

The bear on the flag is the same species as brown bear. There is an article in Discovery magazine addressing brown bear relocation to California using Yellowstone bears as the source.

The article points to a survey that a simple majority of Californians surveyed did not know bears had disappeared from California. Advocates of relocation are trying to convince the Legislature and public that relocated bears would stay in the remote Sierra mountains.

So, if you are an urbanite on the coast you do not have to worry about bears. If you are poor or have livestock in the moutains. They do not care about you.

Of course bears travel large ranges, so it is a negligent simplification tomsuggest bears will remain in the Sierras.

I am sure brown bears in California got so large in history because they had seals and whale carcass to feed upon along the coast.

Ha, ship the problem bears to CA? Take up near a sanctuary city near you?

We could use some grizzlies here in Colorado. A lot of Californians moved here

I think it would be good to relocate a few of the problem bears in near proximity to Ms. Bonnie Rice. Once the bears have properly "educated" her, a few could be placed in near proximity to others filing against WY's decision to open a hunting season to manage the teddy bears.

Yes, yes... because the Feds are so adept and successful in each of the State conservation issues they purport to manage. Instead of saving us from ourselves, just let us handle it and we'll muddle through somehow.