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I want a new rifle for Huntung British columbia Dall Sheep ? Don't take the chip ! | ||
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7mm to 338, 150-210 grns, 2750-2900 fps Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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"The proper answer to: Where is the best place to get a steak dinner? is…you really want pork chops." Shouldn't you have told him he really wants to hunt moose?  ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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Maybe the 284 Winchester or 6.5 mm Remington Magnum, both more-or-less aimed at 270 Winchester performance in a short action rifle. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Why not just shoot a 270 or 30-06? I've shot several sheep and goats with a 270 and never had any problem whatsoever, nor have I ever thought I needed more gun than that. | |||
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Here's the deal.... Most Mountain Goat hunting is TONS of strenuous hiking and climbing.. MILES AND MILES of walking, hiking, climbing, etc... It can easily be up and down slopes as you chase sheep.... The caliber itself isn't really as important - anything useful for white tail deer will easily do the trick.... Realistically, more or less anything 243 and up would be fine for a 300-500 yard shot if you were up for it..... It's a question of the rifle itself... Carrying around a couple extra pounds for miles and miles at altitude absolutely wears you out.... and you are doing this for a whole week... and you shoot once or twice... Give me a 6.5 pound rifle with a 20" barrel with a thick, soft buttpad wearing a very light scope and a very high quality, comfortable sling.. I would pick maybe a fixed 4 or 6 power scope just to limit moving parts breaking... Thanks | |||
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I shot all mine with a 338. Was a 338 necessary? Not unless i bumped into a grizzly which is exactly why I used a big caliber. | |||
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Thanks fellows , I have sent this on the a pal who want this information for his future hunt for Dall sheep Don't take the chip ! | |||
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Caliber isn't the issue. Accuracy and shooting ability is. My go-to alpine rifle is a M700, Lilja barrel, Jewell trigger and lots more. I practice with it out to 500 yds. Shot my biggest billy at 430. I do not agree about the 243 stuff. Billies can be big, 400# and very tough. I'd say 270 or better. 308 is fine because of it's accuracy. You absolutely need to know your trajectory. It's quite common to spot a goat at long range with no opportunity to approach closer. | |||
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I used a custom 270 Win. ddj The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back - Robert Ruark | |||
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Caliber is important. Goats are tough critters with alot of muscle mass. A hard hitting round to kill and anchor them is needed. You don't want your goat skydiving off the side of the mountain. I harvested my 3 goats with a .338 and 200 gr bullets. I wouldn't use anything under a .270. Goat hunting doesn't also needto be a lung buster depending on who and hwere you are hunting. | |||
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I killed mine last year with a .270 Weatherby. | |||
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257 Roberts or 260 Rem is all you need.. | |||
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A 270 is a great goat/sheep calibre, but what i tell clients bring what you are most comfortable shooting. That seems to make a difference. Doug McMann www.skinnercreekhunts.com ph# 250-476-1288 Fax # 250-476-1288 PO Box 27 Tatlayoko Lake, BC Canada V0L 1W0 email skinnercreek@telus.net | |||
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I have to say that everyone has a preference but I have to stick with the 300RUM so that when I need to reach out there it will pack a punch. It has shot everything from Steenbok to elk with zero problems. All a matter of personal preference. I really like the 180gr Accubond in this gun. | |||
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If I ever got to go I would use one of my four .270 WSM's and shoot a 160 grain Nosler Partition at 2950 to 3100 fps. They all shoot it well the speeds vary with the rifle. Two of them have 4.5 X 14 Ziess Conquest, another 2.5 X 10 Conquest, and the last a 6.5 X 20 Conquest with the Mil-Dot crosshair. All are Model 70 featherweights and are very light and easy to carry. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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Shot mine with a Kimber Montana .243. At 305 lazed yards it penetrated the near side shoulder, the chest cavity, and I found the bullet on the inside of the off-side scapula. Bullet was a 95 gr. Fusion. Worked just fine on a 9 1/8" Colorado billy that was estimated by the taxidermist at over 300 lbs live weight. | |||
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