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Contact Your Federal Legislators to Stop Ban on Lead in National Parks

Sportsmen nationwide must immediately contact their U.S. representatives and senators.

Ask your congressman and two U.S. senators to urge the Obama Administration to stop the National Park Service from its plan to stop the use lead ammunition and fishing tackle on its lands.

The park service, which administers many lands that permit hunting and fishing, including National Preserves, National Recreation Areas and National Rivers, announced March 10 that it would ban lead ammunition and sinkers from its lands.

Acting NPS Director Dan Wenk stated that the NPS goal is to eliminate all lead in ammunition and tackle by the end of 2010.

Over 20 million acres of NPS land is open to hunting and would be adversely impacted by this decision.

This decision is seen as a blatant anti-hunting move. It is clearly designed to limit hunting by imposing high priced alternative products like tungsten, copper, and steel.

It will reduce available conservation dollars as sportsmen reduce purchases of hunting and angling gear.

Take Action! Sportsmen are urged to contact their congressperson and their senators and tell them to ask the Obama Administration to oppose this measure. Tell them banning lead will destroy both part of America’s heritage and reduce conservation dollars.

To find your Representative’s phone number use the Legislative Action Center.

For more information regarding the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alert Network, call 614-888-4868, or email Greg R. Lawson, director of communications at glawson@ussportsmen.org or Sharon Hayden, assistant director of communications data at shayden@ussportsmen.org.
 
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When this junk science was getting pushed on California we couldn't get anyone to band together to fight it. So many hunters from other states said, "We don't care what happens to you Californians". Now the anti's have set a precedent here. It's ugly. We need to work together to stop the spread but we should have fought harder to keep it from passing in CA in the first place.


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Posts: 2520 | Location: Central Coast of CA | Registered: 10 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Absolutely incredible that this arrogant son of a bitch could and would pass this by edict.

This idiot wouldn't know his ass from the Grand Canyon.

All the more reason why national parks should be ceded to the states. What business has the federal government in maintaining posession of land in Wyoming and denying its use to its rightful owners?

Maybe Obama will provide the final push for some states to seceed.
 
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Maybe Obama will provide the final push for some states to seceed.


I sure hope so! And what Lincoln put together, this man will tear apart!
 
Posts: 10478 | Location: N.W. Wyoming | Registered: 22 February 2003Reply With Quote
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Absolutely incredible that this arrogant son of a bitch could and would pass this by edict.

This idiot wouldn't know his ass from the Grand Canyon.

All the more reason why national parks should be ceded to the states. What business has the federal government in maintaining posession of land in Wyoming and denying its use to its rightful owners?

Maybe Obama will provide the final push for some states to seceed.


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Well said, and I agree 100%.

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Next step will be National Forests. Not much hunting on National Park land in the lower 48, but this is very bad for Alaskans who hunt year round for food and depend on national park lands. My history is not very good but was not land within the territories traded to the government for certain percs or debt relief to gain staehood? Thus losing rights to these lands. Maybe it is time for the states to bail out the federal gov and take back over federal lands. Rodney.



 
Posts: 1049 | Location: Cut-n-Shoot, Texas USA | Registered: 15 January 2006Reply With Quote
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Does this mean we cannot drive our cars (Lead in batteries) in the parks?

How STUPID can this guy be?


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He is not nearly as stupid as the american people is he?

They voted him in as well as other democrats so let them (us) suffer extreme pain for it.

Maybe if it hurts us bad enough we will not make the same mistake again.
 
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National Park Service News Release
March 10, 2009

National Park Service Gets the Lead Out!

WASHINGTON – National Park Service visitors and wildlife have something to cheer about today with the agency’s stepped-up efforts to reduce lead in national park environments.

“Our goal is to eliminate the use of lead ammunition and lead fishing tackle in parks by the end of 2010,” said Acting National Park Service Director Dan Wenk. “We want to take a leadership role in removing lead from the environment.”

The new lead reduction efforts also include changes in NPS activities, such as culling operations or the dispatching of wounded or sick animals. Rangers and resource managers will use non-lead ammunition to prevent environmental contamination as well as lead poisoning of scavenger species who may eventually feed upon the carcass. Non-toxic substitutes for lead made in the United States are now widely available including tungsten, copper, and steel.

The NPS will also develop educational materials to increase awareness about the consequences of lead exposure and the benefits of using lead-free ammunition and fishing tackle.

Lead is an environmental contaminant affecting many areas of the world, including our national parks. Lead is banned in gasoline, children’s toys, and paint because of its effects on human health. In the United States, there is an accelerating trend to expand efforts to reduce lead contamination associated with firearms and hunting. California and Arizona have recently implemented mandatory and voluntary bans, respectively, on lead ammunition to facilitate California condor recovery. And Yellowstone National Park has had restrictions on lead fishing tackle for years to protect native species and their habitats.

Resource managers recognize that hunting and fishing play an important historical role in the complicated and intensive management of wildlife populations. Because of this history, these activities continue in some parks and, in some cases, even enhance the park’s primary purpose to preserve natural environments and native species. The new restrictions on lead will ensure environmentally safe practices are implemented to protect park visitors and lands.

Wenk adds, “The reduction and eventual removal of lead on park service lands will benefit humans, wildlife, and ecosystems inside and outside park boundaries and continue our legacy of resource stewardship.
 
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There is lots of hunting on the wild river lands they are all open to hunting. This is just more anti hunter/hunting BS.
Don't be afraid to call and let them know you oppose this.
 
Posts: 19835 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
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better think alittle deeper....
this paves the way for registered ammunition
nano numbers on every round in a box of factory
ammo and every case,bullet and primer of reloading supplies.
YOU WILL HAVE TO SIGN FOR IT
AFTER A BACKGROUND CHECK
 
Posts: 2141 | Location: enjoying my freedom in wyoming | Registered: 13 January 2006Reply With Quote
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No wonder the primer shortage. Rodney.



 
Posts: 1049 | Location: Cut-n-Shoot, Texas USA | Registered: 15 January 2006Reply With Quote
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This could be very nasty if it is a out right ban. Could one ever process ammo in ones car or trk. Could mean if one was traveling across country and wanted to stop and look around on NP land you could be in violation if one had ammo in his car.

Could mean for me that because I own land on both sides of a wild river I could not legally walk across the wild river property and process lead ammo to hunt my other property.

Could mean that now that guns are allowed on and in some NP lands for self defense only non lead ammo has to be carried.

Again call your repersentives and tell them to oppose this. If this goes thru it well just be a matter of months before you see it for all federal controled lands.
 
Posts: 19835 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
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I seem to recall some of the folks from CA, currently suffering from a "lead free only" ammo regime, stating that one of the greatest disadvantages was no .22 LR use in these locations. (I don't know if since then, lead-free .22 LR ammo has been introduced?).

So, would this also mean: no more plinking with your kids on these public lands??

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Posts: 6653 | Location: Switzerland | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Gentlemen ----- There has been a ban on lead shot on all State and Federal lands for several years as far as shotgunning is concerned on refuges that house migratory birds of any kind. If you hunt on the public lands with a shotgun, you must use Steel shot. If you hunt off the public lands and walk on with lead shot in you possession, you are in violation. This is nothing new. Good shooting.


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Posts: 2371 | Location: KY | Registered: 22 September 2004Reply With Quote
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All the more reason why national parks should be ceded to the states. What business has the federal government in maintaining posession of land in Wyoming and denying its use to its rightful owners?


Considering how the states manage to fuck the rightful owners (which are ALL the citizens of the United States) of Federal Land by charging outrageous differences in the prices for resident and non-resident hunting/fishing licenses EVEN though they are used on Federal Lands, I'll choose the continued US ownership of MY Lands over any of the states, thank you.


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Posts: 17099 | Location: Texas USA | Registered: 07 May 2001Reply With Quote
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Since most of DC is National Park or National Monument, does that mean that the agencies that protect our leaders will have to use lead free ammo? after All it is a totel ban on lead. Rodney.



 
Posts: 1049 | Location: Cut-n-Shoot, Texas USA | Registered: 15 January 2006Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Rodney H.{500Jeffery}:
Since most of DC is National Park or National Monument, does that mean that the agencies that protect our leaders will have to use lead free ammo? after All it is a totel ban on lead. Rodney.


LMAO. I wouldn't be makin a big bet on that one...
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Remember the issue about concealed carry in national parks? It might be a good idea to pick up some lead free ammo in 9mm or .38 before your next trip to see Yogi and Boo Boo.


Liberals believe that criminals are just like them and guns cause crimes. Conservatives believe criminals are different and that it is the criminals that cause crimes. Maybe both are right and the solution is to keep guns away from liberals.
 
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Liberals believe that criminals are just like them and guns cause crimes. Conservatives believe criminals are different and that it is the criminals that cause crimes. Maybe both are right and the solution is to keep guns away from liberals.


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Posts: 42532 | Location: Crosby and Barksdale, Texas | Registered: 18 September 2006Reply With Quote
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And now it begins.
These are just the first of many Govt "rules and regulations" enacted without Congress that will be directed against hunters, shooters, and gun owners.

Also, THIS lead ban ruling will give the Govt. the right to SEARCH ALL people, personal property, and vehicles, WITHOUT a warrant of any kind when inside the boundary of a National Park. Look at how many Highways go through National Parks.

See where this is going???


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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
And now it begins.
These are just the first of many Govt "rules and regulations" enacted without Congress that will be directed against hunters, shooters, and gun owners.

Also, THIS lead ban ruling will give the Govt. the right to SEARCH ALL people, personal property, and vehicles, WITHOUT a warrant of any kind when inside the boundary of a National Park. Look at how many Highways go through National Parks.

See where this is going???


You nailed it!!!




 
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He is not nearly as stupid as the american people is he?

They voted him in as well as other democrats so let them (us) suffer extreme pain for it.

Maybe if it hurts us bad enough we will not make the same mistake again.


Bingo!We have a winner.With everyone foolishly focused on the AIG bonus BS Obama and the liberal left are getting away with everything they have wanted all along.
 
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"Now, the National Park Service says its no-lead declaration last week was a "misstep" and the lead ban was for the National Park Service employees and agents only. "You can still use lead shot and lead ammunition. The point of the announcement was to let the public know that internally we want to get away from lead-based products," said Bert Frost, Associate Director of Natural Resource Stewardship & Science for the National Park Service."


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Hello all,
Yellowstone has had a lead ban for fishermen for several years.
Lead fishing tackle - Prohibited: Leaded split-shot sinkers, weighted jigs (lead molded to a hook) and soft lead-weighted ribbon. Permitted: Lures containing lead such as roostertails and Panther Martins, cannonballs or downriggers and flies with lead tied to their bodies.

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