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I cannot imagine this happening to anyone!

Putting alive round in a gun in a gun store???


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Posts: 68862 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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You would not believe how careless people can be. While working behind the counter of a LGS I had an old ranch woman, likely pushing 70 years old, point a loaded gun at me, it was jammed after all. She was outraged at the 10$ I charged her to clear the round.

I once received a lever action Henry .22lr for transfer a client had bought, it arrived vis UPS FULLY loaded, one in the chamber and a full magazine.

People are downright scary.
 
Posts: 1228 | Location: Boulder mountains | Registered: 09 February 2024Reply With Quote
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I was sent an M16.

With note saying “we cannot open the bolt. We don’t know if it has a live round!”

Before I did anything, I put a cleaning rod in the barrel, and found out it was empty by measuring its length.

A tap with a rubber mullet on the bolt opened it up.

Sprayed with lubricant, and it was functioning fully again!!

Simplistic solutions are often overlooked!


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Posts: 68862 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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You're giving away tightly held trade secrets Big Grin

Yes, that is an excellent technique, I used the same one when I worked in general gunsmithing. That was the only service I offered on AR's and it was profitable.
 
Posts: 1228 | Location: Boulder mountains | Registered: 09 February 2024Reply With Quote
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Carelessness, not paying attention, pointing the firearm where it wasn't suppose to be pointed and others.

Or just down right murder.
 
Posts: 19650 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
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I remember a long time ago our neighbor ran a pawn shop. She told the story about a customer asking to look at a 38 spcl. She handed it to him and while she wasn't looking, he loaded it and then robbed her with it. Took her cash and the revolver. She said no question that it was loaded as she could see the bullets in the chamber.


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Posts: 939 | Location: Roswell, NM | Registered: 02 December 2002Reply With Quote
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I think we all have experienced careless people around guns
 
Posts: 333 | Location: Idaho & Montana & Washington | Registered: 24 February 2024Reply With Quote
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We have, including myself.

Years ago when my best friend was alive, I invited him on a depredation antelope hunt. He came and bought a friend
that I did not know. There was a tag for him and I showed them where some antelope were feeding. We started stalking them
when all of a sudden I hear a 'BOOM'. I look over and the kid had accidentally fired around. I was not happy and fortunately, no one was hit.

The worse was my two cousins (brothers). They were young and idiots at the time. They were at deer camp, screwing around shooting 22's, before me and my dad arrived. Anyway, the younger brother pulled up to shoot and right when he was pulling the trigger the older one walked right in front of him, hid head directly in the line of fire. My cousin pulled the trigger and 'Click'. It misfired.

Personally, I rarely, if ever, remember a 22 misfiring. Many will not believe the story but it did happen. This was back in the early 80's....
 
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Personally, I rarely, if ever, remember a 22 misfiring. Many will not believe the story but it did happen. This was back in the early 80's....


I have shot many 10's of thousands of 22 could be over a hundred thousand.

Misfires are fairly common in my experience.

Your relative was very lucky.
 
Posts: 19650 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001Reply With Quote
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Every single one of the rules was broken.

1. All firearms are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.

2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to kill or destroy.

3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.

4. Identify your target, and what is behind it.


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Posts: 13696 | Location: New England | Registered: 06 June 2003Reply With Quote
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I was flying home from Zimbabwe through London. They were checking our guns. A fellow passenger had a magnificent double . He was quite careless and pointed at me as well as others . When he opened it , it was loaded . Scared the hell out of me .
 
Posts: 12114 | Location: Orlando, FL | Registered: 26 January 2006Reply With Quote
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The police in Tanzania now check that your rifle is unloaded as you arrive.

I understand this was brought in because a client had a loaded 375 and fired it in the police station.

Making a hole in the ceiling!

I learned gun safety years ago.

Was shooting sea birds with a neighbor son.

He was older and taller than me, which was very lucky.

He had a side by side double 12 bore shotgun, on his shoulders, pointing back.

He pulled the trigger.

I was behind him and slightly to the side.

Or I wouldn’t be here now!

Made promise not to tell, but we sure learned a very valuable lesson.

Only time I have ever had an accidental discharge was with the Japanese made Weatherby.

A 300 magnum which had a habit of going off, sometimes, when you close the bolt.


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In my experience and observation the rule most easily and frequently broken is the rule against placing one’s finger on the trigger unless his sights are on his target.

I know I must work to keep this at the forefront of my mind at all times.


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Posts: 13696 | Location: New England | Registered: 06 June 2003Reply With Quote
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The police in Tanzania now check that your rifle is unloaded as you arrive.

I understand this was brought in because a client had a loaded 375 and fired it in the police station.

Making a hole in the ceiling!

I learned gun safety years ago.

Was shooting sea birds with a neighbor son.

He was older and taller than me, which was very lucky.

He had a side by side double 12 bore shotgun, on his shoulders, pointing back.

He pulled the trigger.

I was behind him and slightly to the side.

Or I wouldn’t be here now!

Made promise not to tell, but we sure learned a very valuable lesson.

Only time I have ever had an accidental discharge was with the Japanese made Weatherby.

A 300 magnum which had a habit of going off, sometimes, when you close the bolt.


That is why I find the "African carry" of guns such a silly and dangerous practice. Despite the protestations of those that say it is a safe way to carry a gun, it doesn't take very long watching any video of African hunting to see others in the party being swept by the muzzles of guns being carried over the shoulder in the African carry way.
I don't care whether a rifle is unloaded, has a positive firing pin locking safety, bolt handle up, finger off trigger, or whatever, I do not want to have a guns muzzle facing my direction under any circumstances.
 
Posts: 3919 | Location: Rolleston, Christchurch, New Zealand | Registered: 03 August 2009Reply With Quote
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I remember in Houston in the 70s, the Ruger Blackhawk in 44 Mag was pretty new. A customer walked in asked if he could see one. Then he asked to see what the cartridges looked like. The Salesman showed him. He loaded one in the revolver and held the store up!


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Posts: 4794 | Location: Colorado Springs | Registered: 01 January 2008Reply With Quote
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We hunted elk from a rancher's house.

Twice in my 12 or 15 years there, others fired guns off in the kitchen where we all gathered for hours. The older guys drinking til late.

I came in from hunting one evening and found the others raising hell with one of the other guys for unloading & firing his rifle thru the ceiling. He was run off soon as he could pack his things. Orin the rancher pointed out at least three bullet holes in the ceiling from his 40+ prior years in the place.

I generally sat leaned back, knees against the table in a corner out of the way. Having to piss I got up and went outside. One of them was messing with his .22 pistol. Before I got back he had fired it thru the table edge right where I had been kicked back for hours.

There was usually 5-10 of us. Most years he had 2 or 4 paying non-resident hunters. I started going with Dad at about 8 years old. Worked on his hay crew from age 12 for 5 years spending the whole summer living, playing and working with & for him. After shooting it several times. When I was 14 he traded me a days wages for his old H&R 922. I wore it full time while up there from then on. Quite often we'd kick up a ground hog, or ground squirrel in the hay fields. I got the job of shooting them when I was close enough.
We ate and shared work on the next much larger ranch for weeks, then his place last.

Funny thing, just starting my first year at age 12. The other rancher made a bad shot on a steer we were butchering. I mouthed off that I could do better. He handed me the .22 and said "show me how!" I did. From then on it was my job to kill a beef a week those 7 weeks. Very good training and they trusted me with wearing a gun all the time.

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Posts: 6045 | Location: Pueblo, CO | Registered: 31 January 2006Reply With Quote
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I had a DHS guy open my rifle case at the airport and ask me to confirm it was not loaded. It was a Blaser R8 that was completely broken down..

I was like - "Well.. its completely disassembled so I'm not sure how to answer your question.."

He laughed and said - just messing with you, I hunt with the same rifle.. We spent the next 20min comparing notes LOL!


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Posts: 894 | Location: Akron, OH | Registered: 07 March 2006Reply With Quote
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At The Greater Houston Shooting Club.

We had a shooter called Walter.

He shot skeet with a pump shotgun.

One day, he finished shooting, he walked back to the club.

Just as he was getting under the Vera, someone asked him if his gun was empty.

He said “yes it is” and pointing to the ceiling, pulled the trigger!

BANG!

With a great hole in the ceiling!

The manager put a circle around that hole and called it Walter’s 26th shot!


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