has anyone got any suggestions on a hot .22 that would be great for hunting whitetails with proper shot placement, no mexican head shots, the deer i will be shooting weigh on average 175-150 for a buck 130- down for does
22-284, 22-6mmttha, 22-250, i just want something hot to kill anything from wild dogs to deer on my farm thats accurate, low recoil and will reach out there!! thanks for your help

.224TTH (Texas Trophy Hunter) Actually nothing more than a .22-6mmrem with a fast twist. Here ois an article.

http://www.ttha.com/webstoriesresults.php?i=1

Fats,

Can I ask why you want a .22 for the job??
Its sounds as if the .243 or even the .257Roberts would do a better job on those big bodied bucks...

Just curious,

Pete

thanks fellas i have already read the article and seen everything on the 22-6mm a rep from hill country rifles told me he didn't think it was that great unless neck or head shots, but he also stated he didn't use the 75 gr amax which the ttha swears by, and i had thought about a .243 improved i work at a gun store so i can get any caliber i wanted, so many choices so little of deer season, i just like that in there tracks kill, and even though i way 246lbs i still think about a gun that kicks and nothing produce more confidence than a knotty hole by the way i have a custom rem 700 .308 win with a 20" barrel #4 shilen and it doesn't kick hardly at all but like i said you can't never have too many deer rifles

224TTH, very intersting, I think I need one.

Fats,

Sounds like you want a 25-06.

Here's my opinion of 22's and deer- yes they'll kill 'em. If you shoot more than a couple of them though you will eventually get to see how if they don't drop right away you have a very unpleasant mess on your hands. It is not responsible IMHO, nor is it worth the sick feeling in your gut when it happens to you. And if you buy a 22 caliber for your deer rifle, I guarantee it will eventually.

Now for what you want to do, sounds like a 25-06 is not only going to be better for deer but also for wild dogs at longer range.

In your situation on a live on farm the 22's are a viable alternative and they will all kill well at short range and with well placed shots in the rib cage with a Hornady 60 gr. HP or SP with complete broadside penitration..Keeping in mind that they don't normally leave a good blood trail so I used them only in open country...I have culled with the 223 in Africa and shot camp meat with it there..

botton line is one must modify his hunting methods with them..Under 100 yds and broadside standing shots only...The head and neck shots are an alternative to consider at close range.

I have no problem with anyone using such light guns if they apply them properly, including the 22 L.R. A certain amount of disapline is required...

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Ray Atkinson

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i will probably go with a 25-06 loaded with 100 gr ballistic tips that should crush anything around here, and catch a used 22-250 on a trade and keep it in the back of my truck if the barrel is wore out, i will have an action for a hot rod, speed and instaneous just make my day! anyone that has a .22-6mm keep me informed! thanks

fats

Hey fats,

IMNSHO you can't go wrong with a .25-06 and 100 grain ballistic tips.

I've probably killed over 100 deer with that combo and like an old boy told me a long time ago . . . "it kills like chain lightning."

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Shoot once!

Fats:

I sure got a Hee Haw from your asking the others about shooting deer with a .22 caliber rifle. I thought you were just jazzing them to get a rise.

The only people I know about who shoot deer with a .22 are those fellows who contract for deer elimination programs in towns. They bait deer, shoot at night, hide in blinds and are 15 to 30 feet away. They use the small cartridge .22's to keep the noise down.

The only people I know about who shoot bears with a .22 are the Inupiat Eskimos in Alaska.

The .22 is banned in many places so I wouldn't know why anyone would want to use a .22 as a deer rifle since it can't be used universally and it has such big limitations on its capability.

If you have decided on a .25-06 then that makes more sense. But at the same time you will find that shooting the heaviest bullet available, 117 grain or 120 grain, is a far better selection than a 60, 75, or 100 grain. You will find that the heavier bullets will have more "punch" out at the target.

You may also eventually find that a partition type bullet may do a better job than a ballistic tip. Most bullets will "punch" all the way through a deer and come out the other side. However, if you shoot a light weight, ballistic tip bullet it may not penetrate as you expect.

Kendall Dace

fats,

About them .257 ballistic tips. The 100 grainers are a big game bullet. I shoot the 85 grain varmint bullet also and they blow all to hell.

Wouldn't use them on big game at all.

The 100 grainer is altogether different.

It seems to be much tougher than the 150gr 7mm or the 165gr .03 cal.

As I've said, I've killed over 100 deer with them (some VERY LARGE Mulies) and none blew up.

All had complete penetration.

The ranges varied from point blank to over 450 paces.

Try the .25-06 and 100 grain Nosler BTs.

You'll like them!

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thanks for all the advice, fellas i am getting a 25-06, i will shoot ballistic tips i just don't dont like soft points i switched from hornady spire points years ago in the .270 130 to federal premium ballistic tips love em drops them in there tracks

I must admit to saying why would you bother to use a .22 caliber on deer sized game. Then I read an article about the hot .22's like the .224TTH & the .220 Howell in Harris Magazine's Deer & Big Game Rifles 2001 by the same Ralph & Laura Lermayer.

The stats as presented were 16 whitetails with 16 Nosler 60 grain Partitions. Ranges from 100-300 yards. Only 4 bullets recovered & as they put it "Every attempt was made to drive the bullet through the rib cage & break the offside shoulder."

Certainly food for thought & we all shoot .22s more accurately than the big magnums. So bullet placement being the key, why not deer with a hot .22 but also with the correctly constructed bullets.

My dual purpose rifle is a Ruger 77 in 25-06 but it sure doesn't shoot as well as my .22-250. It may have to make room for the .224TTH. I already have a .270 anyway.

From a personal standpoint I'll add to my post that I don't use light fast bullets on deer from a meat bruising standpoint...I would rather use a 30-30 or 25-35 for that reason, or a 308, 7x57, with heavy for caliber bullets...

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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i have a lot of deer burger and sausauge made up so the blood doesnt show up so bad throw the loins on the grill, just messing ray i guess i will have up to save up some money for one of your hunts, sounds like you can't go wrong!!!