what bullet for a combo hunt, mule deer and antelope. the federal trophy bonded bear claw or the hornady interbond. the caliber is a .270.
what do you think?

I'd choose the Interbond of those two for that application. The TBBC is going to have a lot more wind drift which is the last thing I want when going after antelope. And it's way tougher than you need.

There isn't a Mule deer or antelope in America that won't drop like a bullet (is that a pun??), when hit accurately with either bullet, in 130 grains for your .270.

I've killed quite a few Mule deer and several antelope at various distances and varying conditions with my .280 Remington using the regular Hornady 139 grain InterLock SP bullets in my handloads. No problems at all.

I do not think you need the "premium" bullets for Mule deer and antelope.

JMHO. L.W.

The Interbond will also have flatter trajectory. I would even consider the SST since they are less $ and with the interlock ring will be tough enough for Muley.

Deke.

The only criterial with mule deer and antelope would be which bullet shoots best in your rifle. Both bullets you listed will do the job along with many others.



Steve

Claycrusher,

I guess if I were you I would ask myself one question. If it is the last afternoon of the last day of the hunt and a heavy horned buck is walking away from you which bullet would you rather have for that raking or seat of the pants shot. I'd choose the TB.

Good Hunting,

Mark

What about the good old Nosler P?

SST is a bad choice, will blow to pieces if you hit a solid spot. If you are worried about money the 140gr Hornady Interlock will hold better and be a better choice than the SST. The Interbond would be great and will be the best choice. Will send you a P.M. private nessage. The Bear claw is also good, but more bullet than you need and costs alot more

4bambam,

SST is far from a bad choice. How many Muley's/Antelope have you had the SST blow to pieces on? I agree that it is quick expanding, but if the impact velocity is not too great (3000fps or less which is what you can expect with the .270) they will hold together just fine. Don't confuse the newer SST's with any older bullets that did not have the interlock ring. The interlock ring does a nice job of holding the base together. I rate the SST as tougher than a ballistic tip, but not as tough as the interbond, plenty for large deer unless you prefer Texas heart shots in which case only A-Frames and Monos can be fully relied upon to work. This year on a quartering away shot I had the SST break the upper leg bone, rake the front brisket bones, break the neck, exit and keep on going on an antelope @ 190yrds from my 7mm-08. On this year's Muley it hit much faster since the shot was @ 75yrds, but still a pass through hitting ribs on both sides, exiting, and kept on going. It is important to add that the 7mm bullets sectional density of the 139gr I used is almost identical to the sd of the 130gr that the .270 would use. The Interbond is just a bonded SST that you pay twice as much for, but don't need unless you are talking Elk. If shot is broadside or quartering on thin skin game the SST is great since it will expand quickly, but still penetrate, and probably pass through.

Deke.

There has only been one SST do not try to confuse the issue. I know It has the interlock and have picture's to prove what the bullet does in a 7mag rem-154gr SST. The plain old Hornady Interlock will not expand as bad as the SST starts to, as there is a pocket

of air in under the plastic tip of the SST. Do not tell me about the 139gr,I have shot that bullet in my 7mag since 1972 at 3240fps before it was even called the Interlock- It, the Interlock came about in 81 0r 82 and either one held together better than the SST ever will. I Still have the article of the SST when it first came out and how even with the Interlock ring, they Fragmented- Total Dicintergration when they shot hog's. As far as the Hunting Nos-Bal -Tip they both blow to pieces just the same. AS far as you're bonded sst which it is not, there is only 2 things in which they have in common, the Hornady name and the plastic tip. I got mine 600-165Interbonds and 600 139gr Interbonds for $22.00 a box- www.midsouthshooterssupply.com has them for $25.00 far from twice as much as the SST,$10.00 more. And far from what you Know about them, I will send you the picture if you're E-mail address is there and you can eat you're SST's. An from what I said on my first reply on this Topic, I mentioned about hitting some solid the SST would blow up just like this did, right through the shoulders. Total core seperation. Even shows whats left of the jacket of the bullet. Plus all the wasted blood shot meat from a poor bullets performance of not holding together. But some Like it that way big holes, wasted meat, but true the deer was dead. BTW still have the Interbond Test-Last Feb-03, on shooting at a bigger hog and taking out 10inches of brisket and before pulverizing the heart exiting- 308 winchester Thompson Encore

Wow,
Mulies and antelope needing near solids???????????? Come on folks, I have had great results with 130gr. Sierra Gamekings in my .270 Winny. Every antelope and deer (whitetail and mule deer) have died near the spot I hit them. Funny thing is my last 'lope I hit through the should er at about 70 yards (purely self defence with a 130 gr. Gameking............................complete penetration after making a mess of the on side shoulder. I would suspect if you hit one at the yardage most people believe it takes to kill an antelope out here it would certainly do as well.

Huntr

I once hit a nice 200 pounder at about 70 yards, dropped right in the tracks. 380g maxiball in front of 80g of fffg black powder. Went right through. Left a hole about 8 inches on the other side. Now if you wanna talk bullets, lets get serious..................



I am a muckraker.........

Hornady Interbond

Gentlemen

Why not Nosler partition or nosler accubonds? Both are avilable in 140 grains in 270

/ JOHAN

4bambam,

Man you are thin skinned, "eat my SST's"..... Lets keep things in perspective here. This is not an assault on your manhood. I correct myself on the similarities of the Interbond and the SST. An oversight of mine, not intended to confuse. I look forward to your 7Mag pics. However, we are talking much less velocity with a .270 and possibly a higher SD if you consider the 140gr bullet. I agree that your 7Mag will blow them up, but not a .270 at killing ranges. As for the cost difference, $10 more a box is significant. The Interbond is a better bullet, but it comes at a price. I suggest buying more bullets, practicing more, placing the bullet better. BTW, Antelope/Muleys are built much differently than Hogs (Antelope/Muleys run/jump, hogs get fat, hogs roll around and lope). When I was a kid in Florida my brother and I used to sneak into the hogs, if we were really brave that day we would kick one in the ass and run for it. Shot my share of hogs, but allways with a tougher bullet (btw, also with a 7Mag).

Deke.

have seen 250 lb. plus mulies shot from 70 yards to 300 with the 130 grain sst, and each crumbled in its tracks. one into the shoulders and logged in the off side. bullets did lose weight but did a nice job. the interbond is a good choice but you do not need the extra for what your after. high velocity will cause failure in rounds like the 7 mag and ssts. i got to see a 150 and 180 pound whitetail this year shot with the same 270 130 grain sst and those deer fell right where they stood. you have the right gun and bullet weight. choose what fits your pocket book and what shoots the best in your rifle. proper bullet placement kills deer/antelope all day. good luck!

My mulie last year dropped to a 115 grn .257 Ballistic tip. One shot, one dead deer. Placement is more important than the bullet when deer are the game. But with that said, animals like deer are the reason why soft pointed bullets were created.

I cant say for other states, but here, an expanding tip bullet is "required" for big game hunting. Maybe people looking at really tough bullets on thin skinned animals would do well to consider that. I think that with the wide variety of bullets and chamberings available today that a guy really needs to guard against too much bullet and not enough velocity on thin skinned animals.

Use the right tool for the job!

Western Hunter,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Reloader

Of the two you mentioned, I would prefer the interbond due to it's superior downrange ballistics. The Trophy Bonded would be my choice of the two for heavier game. That being said, I will also highly recommend the Hornady 140 btsp as it is one of my favorites in the .270 Win.

Regards,

Lou

Hornady Interbond is an excellent choice, I wouldn't bother with a TBBC.

western: i agree! bullet placement. you proved right there that a well placed round can compensate for alot. there is no substitute for your good bullet placement. i read an article and i realize you can't believe everything you read because that paper does lay still as someone types but it was interesting to read none the less. a guy was quoted to have killed 12 quality bull elk with his 243 and the 100 gr. bullet. he said many times he had shot's at bulls but he never took them due to the shot placement being wrong for the rifle/bullet combo. that didn't bother him because he was out there to hunt and not kill. he did say many shot's were 100 yards or less. many at the 50 yard level. so i guess we got to question why we need something like these high dollar premium bullets for thin skinned game. shoot what is most accurate and you have the most confidence in. be sure its designed for the game your hunting and practice, practice until you can hit the mark as expected to insure a clean kill. don't get me wrong, i shoot premium bullets but i do so for one or two reasons. one, the heavy 7mm ultra mag needs a tough bullet to with stand the high velocity impacts and reduce meat loss. two the bullet i use is the most accurate in my rifle. i use the ultra mag on mulies but its not needed. a little over kill but its flat shooting and i like long shots. i do practice at long ranges no less than 3 times a month year around. usually every sunday after church. this is just what i do and it works for me and the experiences ive had. each person and their expectations are different. develop confidence in something and stick to it.

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Originally posted by claycrusher:
what bullet for a combo hunt, mule deer and antelope. the federal trophy bonded bear claw or the hornady interbond. the caliber is a .270.<br />what do you think?

Is there crowd favorite for this application for people that do not reload? (I hope to start next year) I am wanting to dial in the .270 for mule deer, and 'lopes, and would like not to have to use preimium bullets.

You can angst over it all day long but it's gonna be hard to beat a Partition. They've been doing it a long time and I've used them on combo elk/mulie/goat hunts. Same rifle, same bullet, same results: one shot = dead stuff.
FWIW, if I was shooting a .270, it would have a 140 or 150 in it. Also, FWIW, I've killed a lot of this "thin skinned game" and speed never did a damn thing for me but bullet placement did.

Over the past 20 years I've killed a fair number of mule deer and pronghorns using a 270 Win. My bullet of choice has always been the Hornady 130 SP Interlock and it has never let me down.

Come on where talking MD and goats here not big bears and buff.

You want the same flat shooting bullet for both a 130gr Rem core lokt will do just fine or some Sierra game kings the money you save buy extra bullets a practice shooting out to 300 yards.

bear claws and interbonds

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Originally posted by claycrusher:
what bullet for a combo hunt, mule deer and antelope. the federal trophy bonded bear claw or the hornady interbond. the caliber is a .270.<br />what do you think?

good heavens.....i've been hunting both species for 25 years and they have not once been armor-plated.

try a 130-grain coreloct, interlock, prohunter, powerpoint, speer etc. if you feel you must use a premium bullet, keep in mind that expansion is much, much more important than penetration, because penetration won't be a problem.

I killed many whitetails with a 90gr HP out of a 25-06, but I knew my shots would be from 250-400 yds and it would hold together long enough to get the job done. That being said I would go with the interbond, provided it gave me acceptable accuracy. I say this on the chance that you take a less than perfect shot at closer than anticipated ranges. I had a guy show me some interbonds shot into wet paper (I know its not the same as live tissue)at 35 yards out of his 270 and they stayed together and retained around 60% of their weight (some of this wight may have been paper residue). This impressed me.