21 March 2021, 06:36
Big Wonderful WyomingAnyone draw in Arizona
Nothing for this guy so far.
Hopefully the fall draw will yield a coues and javelina.
21 March 2021, 09:02
Jason PDidn’t realize they were up. I need to check!
21 March 2021, 09:15
Jason PNothing for me or my son.
Hoping for a few other states.
23 March 2021, 01:47
Steve AhrenbergI was successful on both Antelope and Elk.....for Bonus Points.
As I stated in the Mule Deer thread, you need to know the BP system here to improve your odds. You need to understand how resident and non-resident tags are allotted.
Certain units have very, very few tags. There is a 10% cap (IIRC) on non-resident tags. So if you choose to enter the draw in an area with only 20 tags, there are only 2 tags for non-resident.
Certain species have percentages of likely draw based on BP total. I currently have 27 BP for Antelope. I was in the 100% draw pool for this year. I have a three week bicycle race end August through mid-September sometime. I knew I wouldn't be around so only purchased BP for both species.
Next year, I can actually select a Buck antelope, in any unit and draw that unit. (If I took that time)
I have 8 for Elk, which will put me in about a 75% chance pool for Elk in the area my cabin is in, 6A. Not the best trophy unit but, lots of Elk.
A 375 bull would be a real stud for this area.
So for next year, August Maasailand, September Antelope and hopefully a rut Archery Bull Elk tag.
23 March 2021, 02:10
Big Wonderful WyomingEvery state is confusing, but some are worse.
Nothing is as bad as Montana and Colorado.
23 March 2021, 03:29
Steve AhrenbergAnd IF you don't draw a Javilina tag, there are always left overs, over the counter.
If you bow hunt, you get a very long and generous hunt. They're pretty easy.
24 March 2021, 00:45
Big Wonderful WyomingOur javelina are pretty rough in the central part of the state. Closer to Arizona there are a heck of a lot more of them.
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
I was successful on both Antelope and Elk.....for Bonus Points.
As I stated in the Mule Deer thread, you need to know the BP system here to improve your odds. You need to understand how resident and non-resident tags are allotted.
Certain units have very, very few tags. There is a 10% cap (IIRC) on non-resident tags. So if you choose to enter the draw in an area with only 20 tags, there are only 2 tags for non-resident.
Certain species have percentages of likely draw based on BP total. I currently have 27 BP for Antelope. I was in the 100% draw pool for this year. I have a three week bicycle race end August through mid-September sometime. I knew I wouldn't be around so only purchased BP for both species.
Next year, I can actually select a Buck antelope, in any unit and draw that unit. (If I took that time)
I have 8 for Elk, which will put me in about a 75% chance pool for Elk in the area my cabin is in, 6A. Not the best trophy unit but, lots of Elk.
A 375 bull would be a real stud for this area.
So for next year, August Maasailand, September Antelope and hopefully a rut Archery Bull Elk tag.
Steve is spot on in what he says. If you’re serious about big bucks and bulls, Arizona is a ‘must apply’ state. As non-residents, my son and I have drawn 4 elk tags (3 of which were great, one tough), strip and Kaibab deer tags and a unit 10 pronghorn tag. We’ve had a bunch of great hunts there, and will almost certainly draw a pronghorn and elk tag in the best areas in the next couple years. It takes persistence and a long term outlook to draw most of Arizona’s premium tags, but they are very worth it.
25 March 2021, 03:06
Big Wonderful WyomingI will more than likely apply for coues on Huachuca and Javelina.
But a lot depends on what I draw in a couple of weeks here in New Mexico.
If I had a royal flush here, I won't be doing anything in Arizona beyond points.
Heard the elk situation was bad because of the drought.
25 March 2021, 11:03
Frostbityou guys are speaking an absolute foreign language to me.
25 March 2021, 19:38
RAR60Elk bad both NM and AZ or AZ
quote:
Originally posted by Big Wonderful Wyoming:
I will more than likely apply for coues on Huachuca and Javelina.
But a lot depends on what I draw in a couple of weeks here in New Mexico.
If I had a royal flush here, I won't be doing anything in Arizona beyond points.
Heard the elk situation was bad because of the drought.
25 March 2021, 21:11
DesertRamquote:
Originally posted by Frostbit:
you guys are speaking an absolute foreign language to me.
Yeah, me too. Points? Just "random" drawing here. I do buy a few points in WY for the kids so they have potential future options. I'm too old to play the point creep game.
26 March 2021, 01:47
Big Wonderful WyomingPoints systems suck, they should have never been invented in the first place.
All they are is a cash cow for state wildlife agencies.
A lot of people in New Mexico are screaming for a points system, we have tons of hunters and very few tags. Best thing they ever did was drop Non-Res to less than 20%, and limit bighorns and ibex and some elk tags to once in a lifetime.