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Only after grizzly are reintroduced to central park!

Friggin morons......
 
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I am sure they will fuck us and put them in the Gila and Valles Caldera of New Mexico. No reason for them not to.

I am glad for the Coloradans, the place is full of fern feeling weirdos. Maybe it will bring down the population idiots there.
 
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The worst part of this is the wacko's have no understanding of the impact of other species and they will not let the state manage them with a hunting season.

They were shot out for a reason..... they don't play well with people and livestock. How many times do these folks like to repeat the same mistake?
 
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The worst part of this is the wacko's have no understanding of the impact of other species and they will not let the state manage them with a hunting season.



For lot of the followers I would say you are correct.

For the hard core they know exactly what will happen.

Less game less hunting less hunting less firearms less reason to own firearms.

Less reason for people in the back country.

Mother earth good people bad.

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"Fern feeling weirdos ..." rotflmo

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It is only fair that they are put in central park, and the Catskills.
 
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It is only fair that they are put in central park, and the Catskills.


And Thurmont...

And maybe Rock Creek Park...

On later introspection, never mind Thurmont, but definitely Rock Creek Park.


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I'd rather have grizzlies than wolves.
 
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Or Californians


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...They were shot out for a reason..... they don't play well with people and livestock. How many times do these folks like to repeat the same mistake?

^^^^^^ This, 1,000 times over ^^^^^^


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I have lived all over the USA thanks to my Uncle Sam.

Growing up in Wyoming and finish school in Montana before I joined the service grizz were really only an issue deep in Yellowstone, and near Glacier park in Montana.

What a difference 30 years makes. Every time we talk about moving back to Montana or Wyoming we have to talk about bears. Bears that didn't exist 30 years ago.

As Boddington says hot and cold running bears. Might as well live in Alaska.
 
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I lived in Western Montana from 1969 to 1980. I was an assistant guide in "the Bob" for five of those years. Saw plenty of grizzlies, was careful, but loved to see them in the wild. I personally would love to see them reintroduced. Yeah we shot out the grizzlies, but we also wiped out the buffalo and eagles as well. Does that mean it was a good idea? I'm pro hunting but also pro wildlife. I guess the folks in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming are made of sterner stuff?


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Or Californians


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Just remember it isn't the Grizzly bears that you have to worry about, it is all the regulations and changes that follow the reintroduction that are the problem. Total waste of time and tax payer money.
 
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Just remember it isn't the Grizzly bears that you have to worry about, it is all the regulations and changes that follow the reintroduction that are the problem. Total waste of time and tax payer money.


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This the over protection expands the problems many fold
 
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Speaking as one Coloradan, and just for myself personally, we don't need EITHER grizzlies or wolves here!
 
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Or Californians


Sigh...


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I am fairly positive the population of conservatives in California is probably 4 times the population of conservatives in Colorado.

You mean you don't want any more liberals, no one else does either.
 
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Just remember it isn't the Grizzly bears that you have to worry about, it is all the regulations and changes that follow the reintroduction that are the problem. Total waste of time and tax payer money.


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I did not see Arizona mentioned in the press release... will have to re-read it.

Not sure where they would re-introduce grizzlies in Arizona... maybe the Mogollon Rim? But there are only two wilderness areas there and taken together they total less than 25,000 acres.

Kaibab Plateau or North of Flagstaff on the Colorado Plateau possibly?

Maybe the White Mountains? I'd like to find out more about any plans for grizzly re-introduction here.
 
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I am fairly positive the population of conservatives in California is probably 4 times the population of conservatives in Colorado.

You mean you don't want any more liberals, no one else does either.

I would agree with both statements.
 
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I lived in Western Montana from 1969 to 1980. I was an assistant guide in "the Bob" for five of those years. Saw plenty of grizzlies, was careful, but loved to see them in the wild. I personally would love to see them reintroduced. Yeah we shot out the grizzlies, but we also wiped out the buffalo and eagles as well. Does that mean it was a good idea? I'm pro hunting but also pro wildlife. I guess the folks in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming are made of sterner stuff?


Agreed 100%. I'm all in favor of reintroducing grizzlies, wolves, bison, elk, and other native wildlife to their historic range. It makes for a more exciting hunt in my opinion.
 
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Agreed 100%. I'm all in favor of reintroducing grizzlies, wolves, bison, elk, and other native wildlife to their historic range. It makes for a more exciting hunt in my opinion


Only if you can hunt them.

The problem is the over regulation you get with the large predators and the absolute protections they receive.
 
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Agreed 100%. I'm all in favor of reintroducing grizzlies, wolves, bison, elk, and other native wildlife to their historic range. It makes for a more exciting hunt in my opinion


Only if you can hunt them.

The problem is the over regulation you get with the large predators and the absolute protections they receive.


I have zero problems with that Smiler


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One area previously mentioned by federal officials as having potential for grizzlies is southwestern Colorado’s San Juan mountain range.

This was tried once already. Not publicly of course and ended with dead cows and dead bear. They denied it steadfastly including while loading it into their truck.


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I'd rather have grizzlies than wolves.



I completely agree with you.

But, neither is best and either only if they can be hunted. Of course, we all know that hunting them is extremely unlikely.

The underlying problem with all this is liberalism and liberals. I regard them as the greatest danger of all.
 
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They need to dump all the problem bears from Yellowstone to Aspen and Golden.
 
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It is only fair that they are put in central park, and the Catskills.



Gotta love the "fearsome animals bit " . Grizzlies before wolves, definitely.

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They need to dump all the problem bears from Yellowstone to Aspen and Golden.


Also Dubois,Myrna, and Bondurant...natives will know what to do, transplants will be eaten.


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The problem bears from the more populated areas in Glacier used to be moved to Kintla Lake. I camped out at "beautiful Kintla Lake" as it said in the brochure. You can leave those bears in Montana!


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As an Arizonan I say go ahead. If they thin out some Californians (sorry to anyone on this board but we got a problem) I will personally donate time and moneyBig Grin


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