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I personally have no desire to shoot a treed Mt. Lion or a treed bear. If the only way I could get a black bear or Mt. Lion is treed then I would take out my camera and take a picture and hope that next time I could get one by spot and stalk. If this is how you hunt them that's fine its just not my cup of tea. Most of my deer hunting has been done either from a stand or sitting on the ground. For the most part I prefer spot and stalk regardless of what im hunting. I like action when im hunting and not just sitting there hoping something walks by. Just sitting there bores me to death. I've only killed two hogs and they were both with dogs. I don't have any desire to hunt hogs with dogs the next time I hunt them. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | ||
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Hunting for my car keys and/or glasses. Now let's see, where did I lay those car keys. Help me find them and we'll drive out of here. Best GWB | |||
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My preference is Spot and Stalk. Unless I get the chance to go out of state, Spot and Stalk hunting in Texas, for deer especially, is frowned upon by land owners. I hunted black bear from a stand in Idaho, watching a bait pile. Not all that sporting but I can live with myself and would try it again. Other than bobwhite quail or ringneck pheasants or using a Lab or some other retrieving breed when hunting waterfowl, I am not interested in hunting anything with a dog/dogs, just not my thing. Forgot to add that High fence hunting for exotic doe deer, i.e. axis, or cull shooting doe white tails on a HF property does not bother me. If I want to shoot a buck of any size, I prefer to go somewhere that will let me do spot and stalk, free range - low fence/no fence. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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I don't care for hunting any manner of big game with a dog. Birds, squirrels, and other small game is fine, but big game should be spot and stalk or on stand for me. If your state game laws allow it then by all means indulge if it's your thing. But I have tried it and won't be doing it again. I'll also add that I'd rather slam my nuts in a car door than to coon hunt. Nothing against those whom enjoy it, but I have tried it and won't be going again. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded emotional and sexual maturity". | |||
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I don't like hunting with... opinionated *ssholes, blowhards, inch-hunters, egotists, and folks that try to turn things into something they are not. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Top 10 things I am not into in the hunting world, not in any order. 1. Scientifically grown deer, elk, zebras, anything to produce big wierd monsters. As in farmed small lot deer, using AI and shipping deer all over the country to produce antler. 2. Waiting in a high seat on an uproductive area, or during an uproductive time. As in the pigs are 4 miles away and moving south. 3. Archery over 30 yards. 4. Long distance rifle (varies dependant on the wind), in heavy wind 200 is a long ways. 5. True put and take shooting. Even pheasants, partridge or quail. The animal needs to have been there a long time. For birds several months, for big game at least a couple years. I don't want to shoot someone's pet. 6. I am not totally against high fence hunting, I tried it on a couple places in Maine that were tiny. In Namibia a good part of the ranch we hunted was high fenced, but it was over 30,000 acres. Makes a huge difference. No small fenced properties. 7. Hunting soley for the the record books. It's nice to shoot big animals, but as a hunter you did nothing to influence the genetic make up of that wild animal. If you did it's farming and not hunting. In that same light would be folks that are pissed when they shoot an animal that doesn't measure up. 8. Hunters that try to force their hunting "beleif's, core values, or ideals" onto other hunters. If you don't like high fence, bowhunting, rifle hunting, sheep hunting, crossbow hunting, women hunting, or hunting with a dog, then don't try to change the world to fit your rose colored glasses. 9. Hunting for the sake of collecting without enjoying it. I know several guys that hunt because they are after a collection of species. Not because they enjoy hunting, they enjoy the dead zoo on their wall. I enjoy trophies as well, but I really just enjoy hunting. Not every collector is like that. 10. The "at all cost" mentality of those hunters that cross the line and poach, tresspass or break some other law. | |||
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Mike,& MOA, Now that you mention it, you guys sound like you've been reading my mail.! Best GWB | |||
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Inch hunters, I had not heard that one before but I like it! | |||
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Big game with dogs and archery. | |||
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What I'm against? I know it when I see it. I tolerate alot of stuff I would not do myself, but I'm not always right about everything. We have to hunt / live based upon our own creed. There are some things that are just not right for 95% of hunters. Those things are probably off limits to rational folks. In order to keep our hunting heritage, we must do a better job of defining what we want hunting to be, or else, someone else will define it for us. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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I know there are a lot of people in the hunting community that don't like trapping and whaling. I think that attitude is the wrong one to have. We need to be able to manage marine mammals, it's an uphill un-winable fight, but I think it is worth doing. Seal and Sea lion numbers are higher than they have ever been in the United States. To a point where we are losing our commercial and game fisheries. I also really like the idea of blood trailing hounds, they are a wonderful game recovery system. The idea of baying deer while hunting isn't for me, but the European method of driven hunting is a great management tool. I also like the idea of hunting bears and cats with hounds. In most cases they make for catch and release hunting. | |||
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Being mostly a 'rifle and 4-footed game' guy, I'm not very interested in upland bird hunting such as pheasants, quail, dove etc. But I'm not averse to using scatterguns, duck hunting is something that I'd really like to try but will probably never get the chance to do. I have absolutly NO interest in going to Africa to hunt critters like elephants, cats, lions, leopards, hippos, rhinos and such. I would like to hunt plains game and maybe even cape buffalo if I had the $$$. Used to be an avid bowhunter but lost interest when I started to do ag damage deer control. Lucky thing that I lost interest in archery because with my FUBAR'ed shoulder drawing a bow is now impossible. Although I'm not at all a religious person the Bible pretty much spells out the animals I'm most interested in hunting in Deuteronomy chapter 14: i.e. split hoof, chews cud. No longer Bigasanelk | |||
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I am against threads that are started to do nothing more than getting hunters pissing on one another. There is room for all of God's creatures....right next to the mashed potatoes. http://texaspredatorposse.ipbhost.com/ | |||
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What Bob said!!! Doug McMann www.skinnercreekhunts.com ph# 250-476-1288 Fax # 250-476-1288 PO Box 27 Tatlayoko Lake, BC Canada V0L 1W0 email skinnercreek@telus.net | |||
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I'm up for anything that is legal, regardless of how it is done!!! Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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I really don't like elk hunting. Maybe it's because they are always in my yard and I see them as a pest. I have shot a couple really nice bulls with a bow some years back, but really don't care to hunt them anymore. ALL hunts I participate in now have to be FUN, as judged by me, or I don't go. Used to think I HAD to hunt a certain way or for a certain species, but not anymore. NOT FUN = DON"T GO!! Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
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Than every forum on the internet needs to be shut down, because I have seen very few threads, especially on the more active sites, that have not had pissing matches in them at some point. The only sites where I see the mutual admiration society/everyone is a great person/and all get along, are not that active and from experience only have maybe, at most 2 dozen active posters and fairly Draconian moderators. The philosophy on those sites is "Everyone Agrees On Everything No Exceptions". Thank God for a site like AR where people can express a different POV on hunting practices/methods/equipment/Life In General. As has been pointed out, this is an International Forum, not a Regional one, so people with differing POV's can add information that opens people eyes up to the fact that not everyone feels the same way about everything, world wide. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I will try to divide this answer into two areas. The first are hunting methods that I don't enjoy for one reason or another but have no problem with others doing them that enjoy them. I won't enumerate them as how I hunt doesn't really affect you. The second group are hunting methods that non-hunters (not necessarily antis) see hunters using that they consider as unfair. In many cases these non-hunters can be the driving force that force laws that are detrimental to our sport. This is the group that has caused the passage of laws in California to eliminate Mtn. lion hunting and huntng bears with dogs. We need to keep this group educated and on our side. 465H&H | |||
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MOA...Please clarify...."Women hunting".. would that be strictly catch and release?? If I had to keep 'em, guess I'd pass... | |||
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Sound advice! Too bad the ones inside high fence don't grow bigger racks. | |||
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I never really got into turkey hunting. It just doesn't do much for me. I've shot a few as targets of opportunity when the fall season overlaps with small game, but I've never really gone on a dedicated turkey hunt. As far as types of hunting that I actually find distasteful or unethical, about the only thing I can think of are the high-fence hunts where the enclosure is small and it's fairly obvious that the animals are tame or nearly so. I don't really think those operations ought to be illegal, but I do think they're stupid and that a big "trophy" animal taken under such circumstances is no more of a trophy than a Holstein. | |||
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I like it all. I especially like hunting that requires dogs, bear, mt. lion, ducks, and upland. I find it a lot easier to get along with dogs than people. DRSS | |||
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Anything legal is fine with me. Who am I to judge. I can't say what I wouldn't do because I have not done it all yet. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Ben Lee said "If they open up rock throwin season for deer I'll start throwin rocks at them" Me too ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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I can assure you this thread was not started to get people pissing on one another in anyway. I don't start those kind of threads. I basically said that i don't care much for hunting with dogs. Rather it be for Mt. Lion or hogs or whatever. But then I also went on to say that if that is how someone else likes to hunt that is just fine. Its just personally not my cup of tea. That being said I can think of a way or two where I wouldn't even mind hunting with dogs and that would be if it were a matter of having food on the table or not etc. Im only saying what kind of hunting I don't personally care for. Im not saying that your kind of hunting or my kind of hunting is wrong. This thread was only started to invoke discussion not a pissing match. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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I like hunting. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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+1 Good on ya! GWB | |||
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Hunting is the main or only thing All of us have in common. It can be discussed with out turning into a pissing match, if everyone keeps in mind that we are All individuals with our own likes and dislikes, with practically everything that we come in contact with in our lives. The foods we eat, the vehicles we drive, the music we listen too, ad infinitum, they are all different for different folks. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Hunting anything over bait (feeder, grain plot or otherwise) from a tree stand. I've done it several times, but it just doesn't seem right now. Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty. | |||
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You would turn anything into a pissing match. Nice speach about different folks and how we are all individuals.Have you read any of your rants Crazy lazy?
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Guess there is something wrong with me.I would hunt anything in any legal way.As long as I can eat it!!! | |||
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We are all part of a big family that needs to support each other, whether we participate in a hunting method or not. Our strength is in numbers, our weakness lies in our division. | |||
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waterfowl, I don't mind being cold, but my days of being excited about being cold AND wet, are over Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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I absolutely can not stand hunting in heavy timbered/forested areas. I need to be able to see a ways away. I am not into super long range hunting. 300-350 yds at the most. Duck hunting in a blind, no thanks. Elk hunting, done it twice, not my cup of tea. No interest in hunting bears of any type or moose. My favs: Nevada mule deer, Wyoming mule deer/antelope, pigs here in California(no dogs). | |||
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Me too, big game, small game, upland birds, waterfowl, varmints, some species of fish, reptiles, amphibians, insects, molluscs.......... Rifle, shotgun, handgun, archery, traps, chase em' with dogs, chase em' with a landing net, by hand or with a snare made from grass, hook and line, harpoons, trident, stick, rock, club............. All kinds of adventures to be had. I'm pissed that I can't take a harbor seal to eat and make a vest out of. | |||
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Have you tried hunting with dogs? Just curious. "Ignorance you can correct, you can't fix stupid." JWP If stupidity hurt, a lot of people would be walking around screaming. Semper Fidelis "Building Carpal Tunnel one round at a time" | |||
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Even though I've shot a lot of them, I'm not really into most whitetail hunting. I grew up hunting mulies and elk and I enjoy covering country and glassing up my game. I guess you would call it active hunting since you are moving, covering country and glassing. Most whitetail hunting is more passive. Sitting in blinds or treestands. I've done it and will do it this fall but I'd rather be in the wide open spaces after muiles or elk if I can get home to do it. | |||
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How does anyone stating that there are certain hunting methods they do not like, divide us as a group? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I guess my whitetail hunting is different. I call it stalk hunting, others might call it still hunting. Whatever works is fine. I haven't been in a tree stand in 26 years, and may never hunt from one again. I enjoy the challenge of stealth in the woods; using a ghillie suit to mask my moves; getting reallly close to whitetails without spooking them. Do I spook a few? Sure. I also get quite a few shots at moving deer which is a challenge as well, and why I always use rifles where I can use irons sights for stalking, then pop on the scope if I have a longer range shot. Hunting from a stand is just boring to me; and I'm saying me. To each their own. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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