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I have asked the question of the California Attorney General but have had no response yet. I am traveling to CA and want to bring a bolt action centerfire rifle that my son has owned since before moving to CA. Does anyone see a problem? "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | ||
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Hello, I don't have an answer for you. I live in Wa. State and you could do it here but we also now have "Red Flag" laws. I cannot legally allow a friend to handle or shoot my gun unless we are at an established registered Range with a Range master present. Other than transfer to an immediate family member a firearm cannot be transferred without the required paperwork and a FBI background check. I think Federal and state law prevails with interstate transfers. I do know Wa. mirrors Cal. law in many ways and if they ever learn how to enforce them, all gunowners will become criminals because of the complexity of the laws. I would think a Knowledgeable FFL might be able to help you. Best of luck. | |||
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Thanks,still waiting on response from California AG. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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I left the peoples republik of Commiefornia mainly because of the insidious gun laws. I think to be totally legal you would have to bring it to an FFL. OTOH they haven't mandated long gun registration YET and what they don't know... Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Good luck with the Cal AG. If you get any response I very much doubt it’ll be in writing. NRA publishes a booklet that answers many firearm possession laws state by state. $15 bucks. Gunlawguide.com I found it to be a big help in 2017 when my wife and I drove to AZ. Some states, like NJ, don’t want any non-resident driving through with a gun. Didn’t bother me to steer north of that s**thole. | |||
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Are you saying your son's rifle is currently in Texas and your son lives in California now and your are bringing it to him? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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If the firearm is owned by the son, you can transport it to him as a bolt action rifle. You can even ship a rifle you own to yourself in another state (provided it complies with that states' laws.) | |||
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Yes, I gave him the rifle years ago before he moved to CA. After visiting the California Attorney General's website I found the following: He needs to obtain a Certificate of Eligibility to own a firearm. This requires he first submit a form BCIA 8016 which is a request for Live Scan Service. He then takes the completed 8016 to Live Scan Station to get fingerprinted. If his record shows up clear they issue a COE. I can then transfer his rifle to him. He will then have 30 days to submit a Intra-Familial Firearm Transaction Form, no FFL holder required. This for a bolt action centerfire rifle. But it does have a black stock.Or I guess I can ship to an FFL holder for transfer. "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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I think you may be misinterpreting what a COE is for. From CA DOJ website A “Certificate of Eligibility” certifies the Department of Justice (DOJ) has checked its records and determined the recipient is not prohibited from acquiring or possessing firearms at the time the firearms eligibility criminal background check was performed. A COE is a pre-requisite licensing/permit requirement for all prospective licensed firearms dealers, licensed ammunition vendors, manufacturers, certified instructors, gun show promoters, explosive permit holders, and other firearm related employment activities, including, any agent or employee of a vendor who handles, sells, or delivers firearms and ammunition. The initial COE application process includes a firearms eligibility criminal background check and issuance of a certificate, which is valid for one year. Thereafter, the COE must be renewed annually. A COE can be revoked, at anytime, if the COE holder becomes prohibited from owning/possessing firearms and ammunition. PM Sent Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I would send it to a dealer. When I moved to California from Alaska I stopped in Montana and picked up a couple rifles from a shop I found on the way, this was in 2014. It isn't worth fighting a corrupt system in California to find a loop hole. Worse case scenario he trys to register it later and they freak out as they don't have any idea of how long it has been there or how he got it. Stupid state with stupid laws. Spending time in jail or prison and having your homosexual lifemate rip you a new one. | |||
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In CA, we are required to transport guns in a locked case. While I do NOT provide legal advice: Personally, I would put it in a locked hard case, in the trunk or under rear pickup seat. Separate the ammo. Simple as that. Same as if you were coming here for a hunt. | |||
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this is ridiculous. give the boy his rifle. | |||
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Of course it is ridiculous. It would be more so to wind up cross ways with young left wing prosecutor that want to put a notch on his/her resume. I think I have located an FFL holder to transfer "Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain | |||
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FAQs from the CA Att'y General site, below. Click on #5: 'Can I give a firearm to my adult child" All kinds of other info there as well. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs | |||
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Gee, that CA is really slipping Illegals have more rights so it seems even if might be cliche thing to say... " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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If you're son owned the rifle before moving here then you can bring it in to deliver to him. He needs to register it with the State of California on this form : https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/f.../forms/ab991frm.pdf? You have to pay $19 Firearms must be registered by mail within 60 days of the date when the gun is moved into the state. Beginning 2014, both long guns and hand guns are registered. https://law.onecle.com/california/penal/27560.html Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Interesting how you used to be considered legal to own a firearm (ie that was the default). Now you have to prove you are legal to own a firearm (default is not legal). All at your expense of course. BH63 Hunting buff is better than sex! | |||
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Nobody knows at this point who that rifle belongs to, Never open a can of worms, it feeds idiots.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Not in Idaho, were wide open, good politicians, and 90% plus red blooded Americans packing guns in plain sight by law, can't shoot in the city but you can in the county anytime you want to.. What scares me is the people from California moving here in large numbers and calling the police on us shooters, its a pain..and at the rate they are moving here we will lose what we cherish most, freedom. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Californians leave the state and move to a different area, then try to turn it into California. Go figure. Dave | |||
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That is the truth, spreading their infection like the plague in medieval Europe. "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind..." Hosea 8:7 | |||
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The truth is, losers are well known for blaming their "problems" on others, it's so easy for them. nopride2 must have a reason for using the screen name he does. Infection like the plague has been endemic in Texas for quite some time. | |||
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