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Originally posted by sage:
A couple very nice bulls you have there, curious as to what bullet you were using in the 7mm-08.

Thank you.

150 Ballistic Tip in the 7-08
165 Speer Hotcore in the 308

One thing that has not really been touched on, and it is something I have witnessed many men do when looking to pick out a rifle for their wife/son or daughter.

All too often they do not take into account the, for lack of a better word "Toughness" of the individual the gun will be for. Case in point from experience, two in fact.

In the first case a former hunting partner had started his 14 year old daughter out with a .243. The girl was not tiny, but she was just 14. After getting used to the .243 he stepped her up to a .270. On one of the Youth Only deer hunt weekends Texas does, the Dad and daughter met me at the place we had been hunting on for a couple of years. When they got there, the Dad said they had a problem. He had brought along both his rifle, a Model 700 Remington in .375 H&H and his daughters gun also a 700 Remington in .270. Problem was that in their packing that morning for the trip up, they forgot the shells for the .270. I watched that young lady make a 110 yard shot on a spike buck with the .375, and when we asked her how it felt when she shot, she described it as just a little harder push than her .270.

In the other case on the trip that Lora shot her elk, her normal gun is a Model 77 Ruger Ultra Lite in .257 Roberts, but I worked with her before the trip and she used my .35 Whelen. In hindsight, I should have let her use the Robert's because I realized it would have got the job done.

My point is, don't underestimate a persons ability until after you give them a couple of practice sessions. Don't put them behind something you find unpleasant to shoot.

.308 Win, 165 gr factory loads, almost any brand is good. If you handload, 165 ghr Hornady I-lock or Sierra Game King work just fine. Echo comments about rifle fit. Everything else lacks versatility or ease of ammo procurement. 30-06 is my 2d choice.

For somebody who is not a rifle looney.. like most on here, I would do this:

Tikka T3 SS in 308
Put into a McMillan Sako Hunter stock
Sako Ringmounts
4x33, 6x36 or 6x42 Leupold

My aunt, who is about 5'5", 130 pounds and is now 65 has hunted for over twenty years with a .270 Win. She has killed many antelope and deer (whitetail and muley) as well as several elk including a huge bull a couple years ago. Just be sure the stock fits properly. Use 130 gr X-bullets and she should be pretty comfortable.

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American National Motto: "Just Do As We Say, We Know What Is Best For Everyone"!

Crazyhorse, I like that one. But, I always thought it was the Canadian National Motto. (chuckle)
Brian

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Originally posted by Nortman:
For somebody who is not a rifle looney.. like most on here, I would do this:

Tikka T3 SS in 308
Put into a McMillan Sako Hunter stock
Sako Ringmounts
4x33, 6x36 or 6x42 Leupold

You would have to be a rifle looney to put that together

Here's a little gal I know that shoots a 270

Or maybe a 300 short mag.
Both these girls won't weigh a 100# with a pocket full of rocks.

Another 270 shooter

my wife shoots a Savage Ladyhunter 7-08. She loves it and has killed numerous animals including a zebra. She says it's the prettiest rifle on the planet, is only 5 pounds, and hits what she aims at.

Great pics ravenr!

I cannot say enough about my Winchester 70 classic compact in .308. (I shoot the 180 grain Nosler Partition in mine) My wife really likes it as well.

They are now being called the featherweight compact.

A very nice rifle. Available in a number of calibers.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/...rweight-compact.html

Get her a model 99 300 Savage.

May I suggest the following:

Have the lady wear one of those space age material recoil reducing shoulder pads. I use one whenever I am testing my .30-06, .338-06.

Have a rifle with the correct length of pull, stock dimensions (cast etc.), plus one of those high tech recoil pads.

I have Pachmayr Decelerator pads on my medium bore rifles. Some people like Limbsaver. No doubt, there are other good recoil pads too.

I would go with a .30-06 with premium bullets and maybe, this would enable you to use 165 grain rather than 180 grain heads. This will reduce recoil a bit and shot placement is more important. It may be possible to stick with 180 grain heads if the padding / recoil pad and stock dimensions make the rifle comfortable to shoot.

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Originally posted by ravenr:


Another 270 shooter

You sure know lots of pretty Gals

I bought my wife one of the browning micro Hunter LH rifles in 7mm-08 and it is a very sweet shooting rifle. I'd pick the same again.

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Originally posted by ravenr:


Another 270 shooter

You sure know lots of pretty Gals

Politically Incorrect and
proud of it!!!!!!!!!

Professional Hunter

You may be attracted to her "Rack"

they have decided she will use her hubby's rifle; a T/C Dimension in .300WM. it has spacers in the stock so they've shortened it to fit her. i'm a little concerned about the recoil for her, she'll find out soon whether or not she can handle it. my plan is to get him some reduced recoil loads for range time; and use full power loads on the hunt and just not tell her. if she doesnt like the reduced loads, i guess they'll be rifle shopping.

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Originally posted by adamhunter:
You might consider a Remington Model 7 as well. The composite stocked model is pretty light. My 10yr old son has one in 260 Rem. He is all of 60 pounds and handles it just fine.

I'm with Adam on this one. A Model 7 in .260 using 140gr TTSX due to the BC. Put a good recoil pad on it and good optics. Shouldn't have more than $1000 in it.

Regardless of what she ends up with, the key is practice, practice, practice. If she can't hit what's she shooting at or if she's scared the rifle is gonna knock the snot out of her, it doesn't make any difference what she's shooting. If you're talking about reloading, one can start out with modest loads and as she acclimates to them, increase the charge gradually until she's shooting full house loads. And hitting what she's aiming at.

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key is practice, practice, practice. If she can't hit what's she shooting at or if she's scared the rifle is gonna knock the snot out of her, it doesn't make any difference what she's shooting. If you're talking about reloading, one can start out with modest l

Amen. she has a horseshoe up her ass and drew a tag for some private land on a 2nd season bull hunt where her chance at a true bull of a lifetime exists. i'm trying to overstress the importance of good shooting. i hope it sticks. i had them buy a scope for their pellet gun and build a trap for basement practicing with a scoped rifle for daily practice until they can find range time.

.338 Federal loaded with 185-grain Barnes 3-Shock Tipped.

I am going to look at a nice little 8X57 sporter today. Lightweight, hard hitting, low recoil. Not sure how such a dated round would do against modern Elk Kevlar though..

The 8x57 has been killing elk sized stuff for a long time. While it doesn't bother me, as I shoot a lot, I wouldn't consider the 8x57 as a light recoiler, especially in a light weight rifle. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir from your earlier post, but start her out light and work up.
I don't know if they still make them but Pacmyrn?? used to make a recoil pad that someway fixed to a woman's bra strap.

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Originally posted by wasbeeman:
The 8x57 has been killing elk sized stuff for a long time. While it doesn't bother me, as I shoot a lot, I wouldn't consider the 8x57 as a light recoiler, especially in a light weight rifle. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir from your earlier post, but start her out light and work up.
I don't know if they still make them but Pacmyrn?? used to make a recoil pad that someway fixed to a woman's bra strap.

I am sure we could agree on plenty. The 7X57 has long been considered a light recoiling rifle and has nearly identical powder capacity to the 8. But I know what you mean, heavier bullets and all. Truth is, there are a lot of rounds that have been around a long time that would fill the ladies elk rifle bill quite well. And just like you say about starting her of easy, it is better to go with something that is suitable for the gal AND the goal than a whizbanger that makes the guy feel warm an fuzzy. Save those rifles for yourself guys..

I am right there with the other 270 shooters. My daughter and grand daughter both shoot an old FN commercial Mauser in .270 The load I make for them shoots as accurate as this old rifle is, (1 to 1.75 inches), I use RL 19 topped with a 130 grain TSX. The old Mauser is a little heavy so recoil is very soft. They have killed both elk and mule deer with this rifle and love it.

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Originally posted by Saeed:
243 Winchester with a 100 grain premium bullet, in any rifle that suits her.

Yup, I used to hunt and kill elk with my 243 before I moved up to my big 270 Win ...

My wife's rifle is a Rem 722 in 300 Savage. She short and the rifle is cut down and still weighs 8 1/2lbs, I load 165gr NP @ 2500 fps or 150's and it kills moose,brown bears, seals,caribou, etc like lightening.

A forgotten caliber. When it came out it was touted as a near equal to the 06, and back then it actually was very close. My dad carried an original Oberndorf sporter in 300 savage for as long as I can remember. Steel butt plate, lightweight and still a pleasure to shoot as well as very capable. I wish I had a dollar for every Elk that was taken with the old 300.

Buy her gun, that usually works in hunting business

Solid cartridge , Great bull.

Just saw this ad for the Weatherby Camilla. It's basically a Vanguard designed for women. Might be worth a look. I vote for the 270 too though. With a 130g premium bullet very little recoil and plenty for elk with good shot placement.

Long time since I got on this thread.
Randall: Thanks for correcting me. Some years ago it used to .25 cal for elk, and .24 for lesser game. Since you posted that, and I just read it. I got the laws out and looked it up. Sure as heck, you're right and I was wrong. Not often but, does happen at times. Thank you sir.

I was always taught by the old time elk killers in camp that: "never ever shoot elk with less than an '06 with 180gr bullets". That's been a religion where we hunted.

I killed a bull elk with a .22 one August, but, that's illegal as can be. So was the date! Long time ago too. Put it under the ear and his head hit him in the hindend before going down like a rock.

John: What have they decided yet, or have they tried the TC?

George

they're going to try hornady light mags in the t/c .300 for practice, and use i believe barnes tsx for the hunt. i forget what he got for weight in the barnes. we'll see how she handles it on the range...