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http://www.lsonews.com/warthog...ches-import-exotics/ "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | ||
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Not good.They are known carriers of Brucellosis which can infect people,cattle,other swine and other ungulates. | |||
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And the Feral Hogs already all over the State of Texas, to the tune of 2 to 4 MILLION, also carry brucellosis and pseudo-rabies. What wart hogs that get out, are not going to add anything to the environment but themselves. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Great news!! I hope they prosper. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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One plus unlike our hogs The are herbivores ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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AND they taste like BACON | |||
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Interesting | |||
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A friend shot a free range zebra years ago SW of Rocksprings. Never no what will poke it's head out of the brush in that area of TX. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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They're actually omnivores Ted. I bet they aren't doing the Scaled and Bobwhite quail population's any favors. | |||
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Ain't that the truth! I would trade Warties for our feral hogs any day! Maybe twice on Sunday! . | |||
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Anyone else see the herd of camels between Dallas and Lawton? Speaking of Brucellosis, where did the bison get the disease? Maybe from cattle? It seems a little disingenuous for ranchers to whine about it after their cows gave it to the buffalos. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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You got me I was going solely on the info my African PH and host gave me last year I did however force feed one a dose of copper clad plastic tipped lead....this ended his last meal......grass.....feeding as they do On their front elbows/knees ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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domestic cattle are vaccinated against Brucellosis It is highly contagious to humans- do you really want to go there? Go study the disease before spoughting off "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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Three mouse clicks. Yellowstone wildlife got it from domestic cattle. What goes around, comes around... http://www.buffalofieldcampaig...rucellosisfacts.html TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Anything that has the words "fact sheet" and comes from any wildlife fanatic outfit, I would say is probably not a fact sheet. | |||
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We need someone to let some monkeys lose in Texas. Not baboons, monkeys. We could teach them to ride the pigs like the Bushmen "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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A few more mouse clicks... http://www.wyomingbrucellosis.com/history.asp http://www.gyebrucellosis.net/brucellosis_history.php http://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/nature/bisoninfo.htm http://nwf.org/News-and-Magazi...Restoring-Bison.aspx http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com...or+the+inconvenience. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Well we now know whose pocket you are in So you are for shutting down the cattle industry in 5 states because of what Might have happened at the turn of the last century--- Most of your citations are radical pro green, anti-hunting anti-industry- Please explain how the domestic bison in Yellowstone are more important than a major section of the economy of Montana. Montana has a program to manage this---the tree huggers won't let them do it- "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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While warthog have been observed to eat meat in very isolated cases, they are essentially grass and root eaters. They hardly even root or furrow. We shoot lots of them in the Eastern Cape of SA and their guts are clean and full of grass. Birds' nests are safe. Bushpigs, on the other hand, are more like your feral hogs and are omnivores. They make wonderful hunting and spread like mad, so are actually a pest here. The kind of animal you want on your neighbour's ranch, but not on your own one. | |||
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Looking for me in someone's pocket might be over-reaching, but believe what you will. If it wasn't introduced from cattle, where did it come from? Kind of like syphilis, didn't exist in Europe until it was imported from North America. What goes around, comes around (always thought that was just a cheap piece of slang - maybe it's not). TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Plenty of Chimps you could recruit in Dallas. | |||
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does anyone know if its possible for warthogs to cross breed with feral hogs? blaming guns for crime is like blaming silverware for rosie o'donnell being fat | |||
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I worked with wart hogs for a couple of years at the fort Worth Zoo and in research I never read anything saying that they couldn't, but I never saw anything stating that they could. My guess is that they can't because of physiological differences between the two species. Such a cross would be interesting looking at the least. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Highly unlikely. The feral hogs and warthogs do not belong to the same genus. The lion and tiger are both members of the genus Panthera so they can create a liger. The horse, donkey, and zebra all belong to the same genus, Equus, so they can cross to create the mule, the zorse, and the zonkey. Domestic/feral pigs and warthogs are very different taxonomically. But nature can be strange so who knows what man can make happen. Hores, zebras, and donkeys are members of the same Genus: Warthogs and feral pigs are not members of the same Genus: . | |||
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thanks for the excellent repies. i was thinking that if the could interbreed, our feral hogs would just breed them out of existence. guess we probably dont have to worry about that! blaming guns for crime is like blaming silverware for rosie o'donnell being fat | |||
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Various of the suide (pig) family have either 36,37, or 38 chromosomes. The French insist that a boar is not wild unless it has only 36 chromosomes, but that is simply because many populations in neighboring countries have 38 and the French always want to be different. Pigs with varying numbers of chromosomes can and do cross with one another, so it is certainly possible for an African warthog to cross with American feral swine. See http://www.reproduction-online.org/content/18/1/9 for a brief analysis. | |||
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Whooops! Just found that the warthog, as well as the African red river hog, only has 34 chromosomes. http://placentation.ucsd.edu/warthog.htm Whether 34 chromosomes is close enough to the 38 usually found in pigs descended from domestic swine for them to successfully interbreed is questionable. My guess is that, like Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens, it can happen, but is the exception rather than the rule. But what else could explain the origin of the entire field of potential Republican presidential contenders? | |||
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I have to agree with Grenadier on this one. Warthogs are listed in the same family, but not the same genus, that will be the link that I feel would keep them from crossing. I believe it would be or is the same situation as exists between humans and gorillas/chimpanzees and between gorillas and chimpanzees. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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The traditional family/genus listings are becoming obsolete since they are based on physical taxonomy, not genetics. I'm unsure that warthogs can successfully interbreed with other types of swine-like animals, but the old family/genus system isn't a dependable way to make that determination. BTW: Taxonmically, I've seen some NFL linemen who might be classed closer to the typical mountain gorilla silverback than to the median homo sapien. | |||
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