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Don't know Chuck Adams and probably will never lay eyes on him. It is interesting how prolific TV has embraced hunting shows the last five years. They all have similar formats and those I watch do not promote taking record book animals, it is just hunting and showing kills on film. It is certain they would jump at the chance at harvesting a BC animal on film.

In fact, film hunting segements often show the pro hunter let the finest buck walk and harvest a management buck. Those land owners must protect their finest gene pool animals to strengthen the herds future potential.

The only tme the so called prohunter could possible show his true hunting skills is on public hunting lands. Then being in the right place at the right time comes into play no matter how accomplished the hunter is or thinks he is.

Chuck Adams keeps a low profile and the only time I see his picture or name in print refers to a record book animal. The word professional would conotate a seasoned expert in a given profession. There are many fine bow hunters today. Unlike days gone by when Fred Baer or Howard Hill were in the fore front of the bow hunitng scene.

Weather the rest of us so called died in the wool big game hunters like it or not, you wait the required 60 days, pay the entry fee, then get the head scored by BC. If that head meets all BC rules and regulations the head will be accepted as measured. If Chuck Adams has an inside track that allows him to be in the right spot at the right time to harvest a record book animal, good shooting.

Sponsors sell products all the time and feature those who will increase their curculation. Golf, Football, Hockey, Baseball, Track and Field, etc, etc, etc, all practice hero worship to market their products. Chuck Adams was in the right place at the right time that enabled him to become famous as a professional hunter.

My view of a professional hunter is one who does nothing else in life, no matter who funds his passion. All us hunters who buy those magazines with those articles depicting Chuck Adams as an expert professional hunter who regularly harvests high numbers of record heads fund his passion. In reality, he should become extremely proficient as a bow hunter since that is all he does on a daily basis.

Being an avid outdoorsman myself, I believe we should enjoy those spectacular animals he has harvested under fare chase rules. Had those animals never been harvested by any hunter we would never have known they existed. In my view the most important aspect is fare chase rules are followed by the hunter in question who harvests those magnificent creatures. It all boils down to being in the right place at the right time no matter who has the bow in his hands. the only advantage Chuck Adams has is being in the field constantly to increase his chances of being in the right place at the right time. Wild game animals live just like humans and require shelter, food, and water to survive.

Should the BC record keepers find his hunting prowess in question it is certain he would be exposed and all his record heads stricken from the books. My view of high profile hunters is simple, they are better hunters and should be, that's all they do and make money doing it. Every one of us has his nitch and those of us who bash Chuck Adams are jealous of his listed BC record heads.

With my 45 years experience big game hunting, I have no record heads to show. I wonder if I am a professional hunter, guess not, my son thinks I am. Being well known for anything is not always as great as it's cracked up to be.
 
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I have heard all the stories badmouting Chuck Adams before and eneded up thinking the guy must be a real jerk..............until I had the pleasure of meeting him in person. Turns out, he is a regular guy who loves hunting. Very easy to talk to and free with advice and information. I think most of the bashing is done out of ignorance and jealousy.



Chuck Adams took a path in life that would allow him to make a living out of doing what he loves. And he has done well. That is something easier said than done. Anyone on this site is free to try and do the same thing. What is stopping you?



I do not know the story behind the current/pending world record elk but I talked to him in depth about his previous World Record elk from Montana. He took that bull on PUBLIC land and he was SELF GUIDED. HE stalked the bull on foot and took him without calling. Anyone with a Montana license would have been free to get the same bull but virtually no one knew it existed. Adams took the bull through hard work and skill. And I respect that.



It is funny how people are all to quick to badmouth those that have been successful within our sport. I see it all the time. If ANY big buck or bull is taken then the rumor mill gets fired up. What a shame. It takes away from many real accomplishments. But as in evreything, it only takes a few unethical hunters or flat out poachers to make lots of people cynical about trophies.



Chuck Adams is the real deal and a very good guy. You could take 100 bow hunters and put them in Chucks shoes when he first saw those bulls and tell them, There he is.......he's yours.......Go get him! And I would bet less than 1 in 10 could pull it off.



So Chuck Adams took another world record bull elk. To that I say....Congadulations!
 
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BOOM hit the nail on the head. JIMMMMYY D ! How the hell are ya this week ? Thought maybe you fell in the shower and hit yer head ! Haven't seen a while
 
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What this all boils down to is Chucky Adams is a good bow hunter that can "Buy" the hunts that afford him the chance at B&C animals.
If anyone does not think Chuck has people watching for sighting's of record book animals is a fool. He has people in all the top states on the lookout for trophy's. It is all a money game and he is one of the best.

I happen to know a fellow that lives in my town the has had 3 or 4 elk in the top ten at different times and the big joke in town is his elk trophy wall is called the 1/2 million dollar wall.

Just goes to say ifn' ya got the bucks, you can put your name in the book if thats your game.
 
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I wasn't there. I didn't see him do anything unethical. I can't prove anything against old wide grin. Can you prove anything for him?

I agree that my bias has no basis of fact. I unjustly judge all pro hunters. You unjustly judge all of us and condemn us to the slob classification. I once spent a few hours one Sunday afternoon watching hunting shows on tv. You ever watch any? Man, that stuff is so stupid it amazes me.

Finally, I admit it. I have not shared a hunting camp with Mr. Adams. I have shared a hunting camp on two different occasions with "pro hunters". They went home empty handed like the rest of us. No big deal. They were respectable guys...until they started talking about the guys who buy hunting equipment at Wal-Mart. You see, judgement goes both ways. There are a lot of great hunters out here...they just think more of their families or their churches or their beer or whatever... I just get tired of the assumption that a "pro" hunter even exists. What is required of a "pro" anyway. Did he wake up one morning, fall into his hunting clothes, and become a "pro"? I'd argue that to make a living hunting is to waste game. I'll bet I have as much fun as Adams everytime I go afield.
 
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So, as you said... he bought another record. Big deal ! I am sure they have already been scouted and spotted by guides so after negotiating enough money he shoots another record. What a guy. Chip on my shoulder ? ok well what ever that has to do with any thing. I still think this sort of trophy only hunting degrades the sport.
 
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Chuckwagon you got a real chip on your shoulder. I don't know where you are from nor do I care. I will say this however the majority of serious hunter's in the state of Montana know which outfitter Chuck Adams used and have a pretty good idea of which ranch they were hunting. None of us here in Montana that know even a little bit about elk have any doubt as to the potential of the area, the bulls killed, the outfitter, or Chuck Adams ability. I don't give a rip about Chuck Adams, but what I wouldn't give to be able to access that private ranch and it's monster free roaming bulls. While I'm at it I wouldn't mind a crack at the mule deer on some of the land that same outfitter leases. It's some of the "best of the best" anywhere, but it's offered at a premium price.
 
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Well now theirs a glowing reference. I'd like to show you some of the work I got back from their shop after a Alaskan Trip. I received a Caribou mounted in the WRONG pose with antlers that were a walnut stained disaster. Add a bear that was a mess with multiple bald spots and a sewing job that looked like a ten year old did the work after they cut the hide in several places. After finally getting ahold of the old man he confessed that the guy who stained the antlers had never done a set before and put a whole lot of stain on before wiping it off. They tried to dodge me for months and refused to work any thing out. Add several hundred dollars of excessive freight and crating fees that were far higher than disclosed. I dropped this stuff off at D&C Expediters in Anchorage and had NO idea that theese hacks would be doing my work. Thank God for Visa because all of the work I got back from them got sent to the basement. I see that since then it appears D&C has terminated their relationship with Hackinson Taxidermy.

I guess if Atchesons measured the antlers they would know for certain.....They were REAL antlers

In either event I would NEVER recommend Atchesons taxidermy.
 
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To whom it may concern,

My friend Tom Hardesty that runs Atcheson Taxidermy scores Chuck's trophies and has for some time now. He assures me they are real and that Chuck acquires the trophies through hard work, talent and hunting in the right place with the right people. Let us not forget the guy is a professional hunter and writer. He can spend the whole season pursuing one particular animal if he chooses.

How can you be pissed at him for being successful and writing about it so you can read it? Hello! It is the guys job.

Regards,

Mark
 
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