If the bullet dont can knock over a animal like the 300 kg elk,what is stopping power then.They say that a .460 wby mag stop the buffalo.if the buffalo are running from a bush about 20 yards from you how do you stopp him then when he weight about 1000 kg.

please tell me guys i want to know

Overkill: Please pay no attention to knocking cops through windows and electrical shocks.

There is, in reality, no such thing as either "knockdown power" or "stopping power". Animals fall, or cease and desist, at such time as their nervous systems are sufficiently disrupted (brain or spine hit), or their vital organs are damaged to the point that the brain is no longer supported with oxygen. Short of that, perhaps a broken bone or severely damaged major muscle group can greatly slow the animal (broken shoulder).

The greater the physical trauma the bullet inflicts, the quicker the animal will "stop". Therefore, in general, the higher the energy of the bullet, provided sufficient penetration and expansion (provides hydraulic shock and trauma), the quicker the animal will "stop", given it is shot in the same place.

A 460 Weatherby solid in the rear leg will have less "stopping power" on an elk than a .243 Winchester in the brain.

I think when they talk about stopping power, it is that the animal is no longer able to produce energy for movement, but an object in motion, want to stay in motion, until a force acts apon it. The bullet will not stop the forward movement, and although the animal is not producing energy for forward movement, it is still in motion, until another force acts apon it. The forces would be gravity and friction, and until they stop the movement, the animal will keep coming, even though it is already dead.

I have been exposed! Overkill please pay no attention to anything I posted earlier. I am only 17 and just trying to stir the pot.

Stonecreek is much smarter than all of us with many many over .50 caliber kills to his credit. He has wisely stepped forward to tell the world that the traditional stopping rifles, such as 505 Gibbs, 500 Jeffery, 577 NE, 585 Nyati, 577 A-Square, 600 NE, & 700 Ne are not anymore effective as killing instruments than say a 223 Rem, 243 Win, 257 Roberts, 6mm Rem, etc. However, I would bet that he will say that a 300 Ultra is a better killer than any of the above.

Todd E

Overkill does pretty well with understanding English considering he comes from Sweden; in fact much better than I would do attempting to understand Swedish.

I'm curious. What is the native tongue in Cleveland?

Rock & Roll!!!! That is the official language of the Mistake on the Lake a.k.a. Cleveland. Actually, I do not live in Cleveland, but on the east side.

Now what is that Texan's speak? Is it true that Texas ranks 50th in the USA in education?

Todd E

49th, actually. As we say, thank god for Mississippi.

Overkill, I don't pay much attention to "knockdown formulas" or "bullet shock". I have yet to see an animal slammed backward from any bullet strike although I have seen them drop instantly in their tracks. Nor do I personaly buy the arguement that you want a bullet to stop in the animal
thereby "dumping" all its energy there. What I want from any bullet I use is complete penetration. That leaves two holes to let blood out and air in. In my book two is better than one. Whatever caliber and bullet type reliably achieves that goal is the way to go.

Overkill,

An adequate caliber is needed to "stop" any game animal. Most importantly is shot placement, and on dangerous game, the nerve to stand in and put the shot where it counts.

Hey hey SC watch out, you're getting personal.

Rugerman: As they say in Mississippi, Thank God for Puerto Rico, which is always 51st.