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these hogs you folks keep talking about.... are they feral hogs or some sort of feral/russian mix or what? About 20years ago, the state of Tenn swapped turkeys trapped in the western part of the state (along the Mississippi) for "russian" hogs from the eastern part of the state. Waaal, in about two years, they declared them as "predators" and you could kill everyone you saw. (a female hog, on good pasture, can have two litters a year numbering 12 or more piglets) They were terribly destructive. And, like the black bear, some folks gave them a much fiercer reputation than they deserved. I read in here about folks carrying guns so big they need wheels under them to kill a hog and I wonder if they are the same pigs I am familar with or have they bred some sort of super porky? Back in Tenn, your basic deer rifle, 30-30 etc, was deemed suitable for hogs. | ||
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Most of what we have here in the Oklahoma/Texas area are of the Feral type and can get around 300 lbs. Some do get very large though.They have a tough layer of fat in the shoulder area and can take a hit only to run off and die. They are defensive in groups and will attack. They are smart and are extending their area every year.The state of Oklahoma views them as farm animals and there is no season on them. So its fire at will. They can be harder to take than a Whitetail.I shot my first last year with a 6mm Rem. The 100gr Hornady dropped the 200 lb sow in her tracks. | |||
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Hogs are alot smarter than deer, that's for sure! They are harder to kill too. | |||
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| <R. A. Berry> |
My taxidermist buddy uses a 22LR Ruger Mark II pistol. Stalk close and aim for the ear hole or right behind the ear. I prefer the spear.  That 35 Whelen was just too monotonous in flattening pigs with one shot.------------------ | ||
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My .308 doesn't have any problems. The hogs in my neck of the woods are not feral farm pigs, although there are some of those running around. | |||
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| <1LoneWolf> |
I have nailed a variety of hogs throughout my life time. Both with my dad and since his passing. Wild Pigs are tough....but no where near as tough as we'd like to make them out to be. Any American game rifle handles them. I think, "honestly an opinion", that alot of their rep comes from the guys who hunt them with handguns. | ||
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| <sure-shot> |
The hogs in Calif are the Russian with some feral mixed in. Sometimes you see one that looks pure Russian but who knows. The season is year round, tags are dirt cheap! Most of the best hog hunting is on private ground but if you work at it you can take one on public land too. Most of the coastal range is good pig country but the lower Sierra foothills are starting to give up some decent hog hunting. sure-shot | ||
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I found the .308 to be inadequate with the hogs in Alabama, the would run 200yds with a heart or lung shot. | |||
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Wild pigs can be tough. I've killed them with .280,.375H&H and compound bow. The smaller porkers, 200lbs and less, don't have the tough hide like the big boys. The gristle plate on the big ones is truely amazing. The largest hog I shot had a plate 1.5" thick, he was a little over 350lbs. That one dropped from one shot with the 280. If they get cornered,wounded or not, they will often come at you. Any good deer rifle will do though. They're not bullet proof. The funnest way to hunt them is with a bow. They can't see for squat so once you spot them and keep the wind right you can get amazingly close, even in wide open areas. The toughest part of hog hunting is finding them! By the way, all of my hog hunting was done in Northern California on private property. | |||
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Working a contract in Iran in the 70s I was able to get a permit for a 12 guage double and a 270. We hunted wild boar a lot. The hunters in Iran were mostly Iranian Armeniens who weren't Muslims. We hunted at night with spot lights. The hogs were considered Vermin and all that was needed to hunt them was your gun permit. I shot several with both the 12 guage with one ounce slugs and the 270 with 150 gr Sierras. At close ranges the slug knocked em on their butt and seemed to be more effective than the 270. I shot one big boar (just under 300 kilos on grain scales) at less that ten yards with the 270. The bullet entered a little high just behind the shoulder, penetrated that big shoulder bone, devestated the lungs and stopped on the opposite shoulder bone. He went down but was back up within ten seconds. Took two more rounds to keep him down-the last one in the head. I haven't hunted the feral or mixed breeds in the states but the ones in Iran were tough. | |||
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| <Mike Dettorre> |
I have taken 5 hogs in CA weighing 115, 125, 175, 210, and 250 lbs. I have used anything from a 6.5x55 to a 338 SA Lazzeroni. The big ones had about 1.25 inch grissle plate but it is not any thougher than a good size deer's shoulder. The only Russian boars brought in to CA were by W.R. Hearst in the 1920-30s. Given the proliferation of feral pigs it is belived there are no pure rusiians left at all and at best bet the russian strain in the ferals is somewhere approaching 0. Hog hunting stories are alot like fish stories, "you shoulda been here last week" or "jumped clean over the boat and broke my rod in half". A 6.5x55 in 140+ grns in a Hornady Interlok or better will do the trick. Of course I use a knife held between my teeth while wearing only a buckskin jock strap...they die immediately from traumatic convulsions or sexual exctiment
The sole purpose of a rifle is to please its owner [This message has been edited by Mike Dettorre (edited 12-06-2001).] | ||
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the thought, in my case, of a 63yr old, 225lb fat man in a buckskin jockstrap has me in convulsions. :0) How do you get the little smily faces, etc onto the text of your messages? | |||
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On Hunt America, there is a picture of a guy that got on the wrong end of a hog. You guys that hunt with spears and knives gotta be CRAZY!  OK RAB you're excused, you can do your own stitches. | |||
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Beeman, If you use one of the other bullettin boards, when you hit the smily button for the body of the text, you'll see the ascii code for the smily. Just remember what those codes are, and type them in. The one I use the most is | |||
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There are a lot of hogs in Texas, as they have now spread to almost every one of the 254 counties. There is no closed season or bag limit. I've killed them in East, West, South, Central, and North Texas. Although there may be a few with European genetics mixed in, most are just feral Hampshires or Durocs. It is interesting, however, how in the wild they grow longer snouts and are much taller and thinner than when raised in the barnyard. They don't really require much more to kill than a whitetail, but they're kind of "reptilian" in their dying habits and take a longer time to expire. I've killed them with everything from a .223 to a .338. The young and sows are good table fare, while a grown boar is rank. 250 pounds is about as large as you normally find them, with 300 lb being "trophy" size, although one was killed near Mason in central Texas with a bow last year that probably went in the neighborhood of 800 lb. If you've never seen it, rent the movie "Razorback" about a man-killing Australian hog. It's a hoot; at least as good as "Tremors". | |||
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quote: It was said of me in college that I "slopped more hogs than Farmer Bob" and at the time, I shared your sentiments exactly! | |||
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thank you paul h. | |||
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The really stout hearted boys hunt them with dogs and a short length of rope. The dogs keep the hog occupied while the hunter grabs a leg, flips the hog and ties his legs together. Then they are packed up and taken to pens and fattened until "Hog killin Weather" Not me, not enough cajones. "D" | |||
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| <Hoyt> |
I've killed them with recurve and compound bows, shotguns and rifles. Also caught them with dogs at night using airboats on the St. Johns and flatbed trucks in south, FL. Some of the catch dogs are as mean as the hogs and some of the pit bull catch dogs we used a long time ago would just as soon grab ahold of you as a hog and you had to keep an eye on them. You have to be careful when it's dark and you got a hog with a dog or two attached to it's ears and you got are trying to grab it's hind legs to flip him...if the dogs turn loose before you get the hogs legs you better have a place to jump up on or something to get behind. I've always used the same thing to hunt them as I do deer. | ||
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| <sure-shot> |
And I thought all those black nastys had Russian boar in 'em. Oh' well they are still a hoot to shoot. I like the trick the taxidermists do - extending the tusks out so they really look mean  sure-shot | ||
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How about running them down with no dogs, no knife, no spear... only a buckskin jockstrap...and a piece of rope. Hog tied. To prove ones cajones, he must also forsake the rope, and remove his jockstrap to tie them up with. ------------------ | |||
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| <Hoyt> |
I knew a guy who use to just run up to them and hit em on the head with a ball pean hammer. | ||
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| <mark h> |
Don't wear your best shirt! I met a fellow here who gave me his brother-in-laws card. He only charges a dollar per pound of hog weight to guide you with his dogs. If you choose you can use an eight inch hog knife to dispatch your hog.I was told that you straddle the hog as the catahoulas and bulldogs distract him. He said it's very intimate! ------------------ | ||
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