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I would take the M70 any day over a REM as it's CRF and thats what I like personaly. But each to there own.
 
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Anyone hear know anything about US Repeating Arms owning both Winchester and Browning now? I heard that from a Guide yesterday while pig hunting with a customer. Unless you are buying a custom rifle, take your pick, but I prefer Remington 700's and Ruger's.
 
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Anyone hear know anything about US Repeating Arms owning both Winchester and Browning now




It has been that way for quite some time now.

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I wasnt aware of that. I guess that explains why both Winchester and Browning offer WSM, and WSSM rifles.
 
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I prefer the Mdl 70, and I'd take a Ruger over a Remington.

But most of the completely stock factory rifles made by American manufacturers leave alot to be desired these days.
 
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You wouldn't look at a Ruger ? That's too bad. My information is their barrels have improved alot over those of 10-15 yrs. ago. To the point where they compare with anybody's.
I like them all. That's why I own and shoot all three.
I call it a matter of what you prefer in an action, not which is better.
Remingtons have a fully adjustable trigger. Winchester's only adjusts for weight of pull, and the Ruger Mk.II doesn't adjust at all, but the older tang safety models did. The Remington trigger must be maintained with sufficent sear engagement or the safety doesn't work, even to the point of an accidental discharge when released. Both the Winchester and the Ruger Mk.II's can be reworked to a really nice break and they are easily kept clean for safe use. Something that is tougher to do with the Remington triggers.
The Mauser style extractors and ejectors on the Winchesters and the current Rugers are the most trouble free known. The Remington extractor will actually pull the head off of a stuck case. The current Rugers and Winchesters will move sideways first, so the Remington design has an edge there. The Remingtons use the plunger style ejector which isn't as trouble free as the fixed blade ejectors of the Winchesters and the Rugers.
Rugers feature an excellent floorplate and trigger guard design which is much less prone to opening at the wrong time than the other two. But, you can't build a custom Ruger in the ADL style like you can the others.
I much prefer the bolt stop release on the Winchesters and especially the Rugers. Remington's design has been known to accumulate debris and stick.
So, pick what you like and enjoy. Lots of choices. E
 
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