14 October 2006, 08:01
333_OKH223 Rem / 410 shotgun
Do you know of anyone who makes this combo? I have an old friend who has wanted one for many years, but does not want a 20 or 12 gauge.
14 October 2006, 19:50
JulioAs far as I'm aware, no one makes a .410/.223, and only Baikal now make a combination gun with a .410 barrel option (+ .22LR or .22WMR), though s/h Savage Model 24s are available in .410/.22LR.
It's easy enough to shoot .410 from a 20g barrel, however, either by fitting a chamber insert (Lothar Walther) or a skeet tube (Briley, Kolar).
New combination guns with rifle barrels chambered in .223 are available from Baikal, F.A.I.R., Heym, Merkel, Sabatti and Savage.
Clearly a 20g or 12g combination isn't going to be as light as a .410, especially when fitted with a .410 adapter, but it should shoot just as well as a gun with a true .410 barrel.
I hope the above is useful. J.
15 October 2006, 04:37
Sambar 9.3Try the H&R website.
www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Combos.barrel3.aspxThey may have something you can use.
Not really a BBF or combination gun per say, but still look to be useful, and in the calibers you are after.
15 October 2006, 06:01
DaManquote:
Originally posted by 333_OKH:
Do you know of anyone who makes this combo? I have an old friend who has wanted one for many years, but does not want a 20 or 12 gauge.
Did your friend say WHY he would want such a combo?
As Julio recommended..... a 410 insert/insert barrel would be the logical choice.
23 October 2006, 04:31
333_OKHHe loves the two calibers and already has other gauges and only wants the slimness of these two. He had a 22 hornet rifle with a 410 but it went up in fire and he cannot remember the maker.......Older gentlemen he is!
25 October 2006, 21:59
JulioI still haven't been able to find a .223/.410 combi, but it occurs to me that you might be interested to hear about a bullpup-style BBF I saw at a show in Nuremberg couple of years ago.
Designed by
Anatol Görzen as a survival gun for pilots, and made by
Steinkamp, it was offered in .410/.22 Hornet (PG1) or 20g/5.6x50R Magnum (PG2), and could be had in wood or rubber overmolded stocks (
picture).
Unfortunately, I have found no subsequent mention of these guns on either the Map or Steinkamp sites, so it is possible that they never went into production.
I was very taken with the design at the time but didn't have the funds to order one, even if they had been available.
Naturally, if I come across a less esoteric solution I'll post the details here.