I have inherited a real collector's piece, and its gonna be moved.

It is a Over and under shotgun - rifle, Model 41 with a lateral small-gauge-barrel made in Ferlach, Austria by gun maker Johann Michelitsch. The gun was custom made on 7 April, 1964 and is in excellent, near unfired condition.

The barrel configuration is 20/70 over .308 Winch. with lateral .22WMR. It is a Blitz system with Kersten lock and double under locks lung. Made of barrel steel Bohler Blitz in 24" length. The lower and lateral barrels are made of barrel steel Bohler Special G55 also at 24".

Both triggers are gold set triggers. Lateral Shifting is on the right side plate by means of a slider. (See Pictures). Automatic Safety at the grip stock. The trigger guard is made of horn.

The stock is made of 1st class selected veined Walnut with a pistol grip, cheek piece and fitted with a ventilate rubber recoil pad by the gun maker.

Both sides of breech have chiselled engraving of selected hunting scenes with gold monogram in select places.

There is a cartridge magazine in the stock above the sling swivel with extensive engraving.

There is a quick disconnect hooked scope mount with a 4 X 32 Hensoldt Wetzlar Diatal D Scope.

Competent appraisal puts a replacement cost on this custom drilling at approximately $40,000.

I have decided to sell it, but also realize I'll probably not fetch anywhere near it appraised value. I am asking $12,000.

I recently fired her and was thoroughly impressed. Both .308 and .22 WMR barrels were very accurate at 100yrds.

Anyone with knowledge/experience to comment. I don't know these guns, but sure enjoy the info

Very nice bock driling

Prettiest girl I have seen this week, I am sorry to read about the reason you got here but still glad she came to a person that appriciates here.

The only thing I would have done to here is to change that ugly ass of hers, she deserves a buffalo horn or leather pad, at least a classic black rubber pad.

Your opinion might wary and I respect that.

Update, sell it?! You will never get your hands on that much rifle again regardless of the money you spend. Remember that is an all handmade rifle.



Best regards Chris

Don't sell it at this times. The prices for these custom made rifles are down at the moment. Have a look on www.egun.de and you will see, its difficult to sell them in this times.

If I were you, i would hold it for the next months, would hunt with this beauty, and I am sure, you will never sell it. Never again you will have such rare pice in your safe. Real Bockdrillings are hard to find, most hunter take a "normal" drilling with an insert barrel - we call it "the poormens Bockdrilling".

Burkhard

I concur with the above sentiments.
Don't sell it, unless you have no alternative.
The chances are you will never see one again, and you almost certainly will not get anywhere near the true value of this fine instrument.

JMHO.

Best of luck.

P.S. You really should take it for a walk after something, even just rabbits. That is the best part of using a combination gun. Regardless of what game you find, you are ready for it.

That is a very nice gun.

The calibre choices would be perfect on my deer lease, most other places too.

I really enjoy hunting with Combination Guns.

Nice modern bock-drilling!

The problem with value is finding a buyer for a VERY specialized gun. Yours would sell for about $15,000.00, if the right buyer were found, and that could take years...or days. The appraisal was correct in respect to having a new one like yours built. BUT, the purchaser of a new one would want his own choice of chamberings...probably not 20ga 2 3/4", 308, and 22 mag RF.

Besides, it looks U-N-S-A-F-E to shoot, so you should sell it to me for some token amount.

I asked my gunsmith. At the moment the price is, in his eyes, 6 - 8.000 Euroo. But - it will cost a lot of time to find a buyer.
First, the caliber combination (a breakdown aktion should use rimmed ammo) so 22 Hornet (or 5,6 x 50/51R9 and 7x65R (better 30R Blaser). Engravings mostly will not be payed, a Bockdrilling is very rare (they sell in Germany under 100 rifles per year, maybe the new Blaser drilling system will change this)

So hold it, and if you are planning to sell it, take the time one year is nothing.

Burkhard

You may want to contact Champlin Firearms as George Casswell is into these kinds of guns. He would be a buyer, I suspect.

I just had to come back to this post.
If I had the money I would be a serious buyer.
I have heard these types of Drillings called Cross-eyed Drillings.

The claw mounts enable it to be scoped very easily.

Being this is a 308 [my favorite all-round rifle calibre], and a 22 Mag [a great choice for small vermin, turkeys etc.] and a 20ga. [allows it to be made on a very small frame], this would be one GREAT hunting gun.

Most Americans are just not into Combination guns, but I have found them to be very, very desireable.

Again that is one VERY NICE gun.

I have always found that the depiction of the hunter/archer,Hubert of Liege, kneeling before the stag was a symbol of reverence to nature, regardless of any religious meaning.

I've returned to this post many times now, just to see this magnificent work of art.

A beautiful Bock Drilling.

I am 100% in agreement with Chris, the Recoil Pad is a potential "improvement area" but otherwise; superb!

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I have always found that the depiction of the hunter/archer,Hubert of Liege, kneeling before the stag was a symbol of reverence to nature, regardless of any religious meaning.

Yes, very nice although personally I'm partial to the opposite side's engraving of "Diana, The Huntress".

Thanks for the input gents. My uncle always said, "one day I will sho you my piece, I have many pieces, but only one piece" He never ever got around to showing her to me, so you can imagine my amazement when I finally got into his safe.

They were all left to me and most all were in that condition.

He custom ordered this one and being from dissledorf went to Ferlach and picked it up. I have the original test fire target as well as the import receipts when he brought it into Canada.

I am going to Germany in October this year and hope to visit Ferlach, Austria if i can find it!

Glad you're enjoying the post.

J

Hope this will help you

http://www.stadt.ferlach.net/default.asp?siid=1&a=cSIidSTFU


Burkhard

All Ferlach gunsmiths

http://www.stadt.ferlach.net/default.asp?SIid=82&a=betriebe

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
I just had to come back to this post.
If I had the money I would be a serious buyer.
I have heard these types of Drillings called Cross-eyed Drillings.

The claw mounts enable it to be scoped very easily.

Being this is a 308 [my favorite all-round rifle calibre], and a 22 Mag [a great choice for small vermin, turkeys etc.] and a 20ga. [allows it to be made on a very small frame], this would be one GREAT hunting gun.

Most Americans are just not into Combination guns, but I have found them to be very, very desireable.

Again that is one VERY NICE gun.

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Competent appraisal puts a replacement cost on this custom drilling at approximately $40,000.

I agree with everything NE 450 No2 said about this drilling. It is a fine piece, and Tony is right about Americans not being into combo guns. He and I are the exception however! I would love to have that drilling, but I'm afraid you will need a truck load of LUCK to get anyplace near $40,000 for it. I think you appraisor, is a little optimistic!

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I agree with everything NE 450 No2 said about this drilling. It is a fine piece, and Tony is right about Americans not being into combo guns. He and I are the exception however! I would love to have that drilling, but I'm afraid you will need a truck load of LUCK to get anyplace near $40,000 for it. I think you appraisor, is a little optimistic!

The $40,000 appraisal was in no way a reflection of what he expected one could fetch for the gun, but merely a replacement cost if I were to insure it.

He believed that if I sold it I wouldn't be out of the ball park asking $15,000 for the gun, possibly a little more.

At that price I might even consider it.

J

Looks like a really nice hunting gun. The Krieghoff Ultra 20 was in the same direction, a .243/20 gauge, more money than I had so I have a Savage 24 instead. This is the same brass, a little bigger bullet, suitable for anything in the lower 48, with a little judgement.

I wouldn't sell it, if I had it. I'd pass it on as your uncle did.

I think it would cost more to build a rifle like that than $40,000. On the down side I agree with the appraisal that you would have a very hard time get $12,000 for it.

I understand you have a Cabelas or Bass Pro in Montreal. I would take it to them and see what they say.

I have spent a lot of time latley looking at these fine guns, and am drooling for a Blaser D99, as well as any custom combo/drilling guns that come along.

I think a market price today would be around $6000. I wouldn't call it fair, or good, or even reasonable, considering the time and effort that went into finishing that rifle.

If it had a modern scope, or was different calibers it would be worth more.

In all cases it is an exceptional example of a master gun makers art, combined with a master engravers best work.

And yes I love the naked Diana and the Hubertus Stag.

Good luck, it is my wish that you find a buyer that can afford to give you a good price for it. It is the kind of rifle that any lover of fine Teutonic firearms would love to have and hunt with.

I'm looking at these pics and thinking this guns is just gorgeous! I didn't realize you're in Ontario as well.

I know someone who would be interested.

I'll PM you.

A couple of years ago George Caswell had a similar bock drilling in stock, similar chambering, almost identical engraving (same exact subject matter, slightly different execution - just as nice though) and similar setup - mounts, scope, cartridge trap...

I had such a huge crush on that gun, and I have the same feeling for this one.
If I weren't out of work and looking at a four to six month recovery from surgery I'd have made the trip to your neck of the woods to meet, visit, shoot the gun, and have bought the beautiful thing by now!

I've been appreciating this sweetheart of a hunting gun since you first posted photos of it here on AR.

I wish you the best, and the best of success in finding it the right new home it deserves.


--Tinker