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Hi,
anyone here that knows if any of the Leupold QuickRelease mounts (or any other removable mount make for that) will fit my Blaser? I have the "old" (similar to weaver) mount I have been told, not the newer Blaser "Saddle mounts".


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Go over to BlaserPro.com and ask there are many on there someone might help.
 
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There is a "Blaser swing out mount", its my prefered mount before the saddle mount came out.

Bit expensive but very durable and zeroing 100 per cent.
 
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Originally posted by GE:
Hi,
anyone here that knows if any of the Leupold QuickRelease mounts (or any other removable mount make for that) will fit my Blaser? I have the "old" (similar to weaver) mount I have been told, not the newer Blaser "Saddle mounts".

I very much doubt the Leupold QR mounts will fit your Blaser (I take it you are talking about your ES80??). Neither will the new Blaser "saddle" mounts used on R93, BBF95 (and 97), D99 etc.

Your reference to a "Weaver type" mount, does that mean you already have such a mount on your rifle?? If yes, is this what you are looking to use?? A Weaver may not be the World's most sophisticated mount, but there are great Weaver type rings available these days (e.g. Burris Signature Zee), and with limitations a Weaver can probably be defined as a "quick release" mount - at least you can pretty easily remove and replace the scope. If your bases are truely Weaver types, likely the Leupold QRW rings may be used (as opposed to the QR rings, which use proprietary Leupold bases).

If you are looking for something other than a Weaver type mount, as Burkhard pointed out, the best mount for your type of gun used to be the "Blaser Brückenschwenmontage" (=bridge pivot mount) or "BBSM". This is a picture of such a mount (used on a K77 single shot, break-top rifle). The picture is linked from www.egun.de, so it won't last forever (download it to your computer if you want to preserve it):



I don't know if this mount was ever made for anything other than scopes with a mounting rail, though.

I don't think Blaser makes the BBSM mount any longer, although similar mounts are quite common in the Germanic part of the World. I'm not quite sure if anybody makes an exact copy, but Krieghof probably comes pretty close.


Another option (if you feel rich) is a claw mount (like: http://www.eaw.de/eaw/index_uk.php/item/305. Although I would not recommend going in this direction - both on account of the price and limitations such a mount involves.

- mike


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Originally posted by blaser93:
Go over to BlaserPro.com and ask there are many on there someone might help.


Wasn't aware of that one, thanks!


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Goran

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Sako Hunter .30-06
Remington 700 .222Rem
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Blaser ES80 cal. 12/.222Rem
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I very much doubt the Leupold QR mounts will fit your Blaser (I take it you are talking about your ES80??)

Your reference to a "Weaver type" mount, does that mean you already have such a mount on your rifle??

I don't think Blaser makes the BBSM mount any longer, although similar mounts are quite common in the Germanic part of the World.

Another option (if you feel rich) is a claw mount...
- mike


Yup, the ES80. Besides the reality that Blaser probably doesn't manufacture mounts for my one anymore, it would probably cost as the gun so I was hoping for a cheaper solution. I do have a removable mount now, problem is that it is a modified mount for another rifle brand (unknown) with an Aimpoint 9000 on it. The only reason to have that removable is to be able to use the standard rifle sight, I would like to be able to fit more types of scopes.


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Goran

Browning BAR II Safari .338WM
Sako Hunter .30-06
Remington 700 .222Rem
Ruger 10/22 .22LR
Blaser ES80 cal. 12/.222Rem
Browning B325 cal. 12
 
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OK, that is understood. But does your current mount make use of Weaver bases?? I.e. are there ALREADY Weaver bases on your ES80??

If not, and if you are looking for an economical mount, maybe the best would be to obtain a "generic" weaver base (straight bottom) and simply have that put on your gun. It should be pretty easy to fit onto the straight top of the ES80. Then with use of (cheap) Weaver type rings, you could fit both the Aimpoint and auxiliary scopes.

If you buy the Weaver type hardware in the US, the cost is negligible compared to the cost of even a simple mount bought in Europe. Expect maybe 20-40$ for the base and 20-40$ for a good set of Weaver type rings. Compare that to 3-500 Euro for a decent European pivot mount (not to speak of 1000 Euro for a claw mount)...

OK, I don't know how easy it would be to fit a Weaver base on your ES80, and in particular how it would look. But it should not cost the world to do, and it is a very versatile mount system.

- mike


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This is what it looks like:



The arrow shows to what I mean is a "Weaver mount", definitely not sure if that's the correct name for it.


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Goran

Browning BAR II Safari .338WM
Sako Hunter .30-06
Remington 700 .222Rem
Ruger 10/22 .22LR
Blaser ES80 cal. 12/.222Rem
Browning B325 cal. 12
 
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Goran, just looking at the picture, I doubt that is a Weaver mount. The ES80 barrels are inserted into a piece of metal with a flat top (rib) over the chambers. This rib is machined to have a trapeze formed shape. This is utilized in the mounts like the Blaser bridge pivot I talked about in my previous post - the rear part of that mount grabs hold of the trapeze.

A Weaver is also trapeze shaped, but the angle and dimensions are different. In addition, the Weaver relies on cross bolts, and unless slots for such have been machined in your rib, I severely doubt cross bolts are used in your mount.

It does indeed look like your mount is custom made. Just looking at it, and considering the options, one possible way would be to have an equivalent mount made, but one which had a Weaver base as the top. Rather than fix the rings to the base with the current screw arrangement, you'd use the Weaver mechanism. It might even be possible to machine the base you currently use into a Weaver shape, but you would need to reblue it afterwards...

- mike


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Yeah, a gun smith can probably fix or make a mount of my liking, it's the price tag I worry about! Big Grin Another cheap solution would be to mount the general Leupold QR bases to this base but then it will start to look like a real garage project. In any case, I'll probably take it to an experienced gun smith and ask about my options, thanks!


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Goran

Browning BAR II Safari .338WM
Sako Hunter .30-06
Remington 700 .222Rem
Ruger 10/22 .22LR
Blaser ES80 cal. 12/.222Rem
Browning B325 cal. 12
 
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