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.........I just put up a post for smellies so I figure , what the hell, lets see some Krags as well.
My favourite has always been Col. Townsend Whelens



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Boy that's a beauty. I have always loved the Krag sporters. A local shop here has one I've been wanting but as I've had a thing going for the Enfields lately I haven't had the funds. I have to finish my projects. At least, that's what I keep telling myself.
 
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....that top one is absolutely beautiful....gotta find one in 6.5x55 tu2 tu2

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A friend of mine had a 30/40 Krag Sporter.

Everytime I shot it I really wanted one for myself.

I tried to get a gunsmith from Norway that I knew to convert a 6.5x55 Krag to a 308 WCF.

[I just did not want to get into another calibre, with its different brass, bullets dies etc...].

I promised to only load it with light loads suitable to Krag pressures, but he [wisely no doubt] always refused.

Besides how slick the action works, I always liked the fact that you could just "flick" the magazine open and reload, even with a round chambered.

When I see Krags like the ones pictured above, it still makes me want one...


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I just looked at a custom, pre-WWII. It was in 8x57R, and the magazine box hinged forward. Springfield sling swivels, and I think the stock was from a 98 of some flavor.
Odd looking thing, but well done.

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I got to talk to my gunsmith. He tells me it is a Danish Krag-Jorgensen Model 1889. Originally in 8x58R. A week ago I bought an original.
 
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A friend of mine had a 30/40 Krag Sporter.

Everytime I shot it I really wanted one for myself.

I tried to get a gunsmith from Norway that I knew to convert a 6.5x55 Krag to a 308 WCF.

[I just did not want to get into another calibre, with its different brass, bullets dies etc...].

I promised to only load it with light loads suitable to Krag pressures, but he [wisely no doubt] always refused.

Besides how slick the action works, I always liked the fact that you could just "flick" the magazine open and reload, even with a round chambered.

When I see Krags like the ones pictured above, it still makes me want one...


The Danish and Norwegian Krags differ, IIRC, from the American variety in that the bolt handle root is fit to the receiver as a true locking lug; a great many moose have succumbed to these rifles in Scandinavia in 6.5mm.

They are beautifully made, also.

I had a chance at a sportered American Krag a few years back, looked like a early 50's conversion, maybe earlier- had a Lyman or Redfield peep on it, nice wood- sort of a Neidermeyer style, metal, etc. I thought the price too high, proving the rule it's better to regret owning something rather than regret not owning it.
 
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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
A friend of mine had a 30/40 Krag Sporter.

Everytime I shot it I really wanted one for myself.

I tried to get a gunsmith from Norway that I knew to convert a 6.5x55 Krag to a 308 WCF.

[I just did not want to get into another calibre, with its different brass, bullets dies etc...].

I promised to only load it with light loads suitable to Krag pressures, but he [wisely no doubt] always refused.

Besides how slick the action works, I always liked the fact that you could just "flick" the magazine open and reload, even with a round chambered.

When I see Krags like the ones pictured above, it still makes me want one...


These threads make me miss some of my old rilfes-

the little 6.5 Krag was nice!



Actually a .308 would have been fine.

I have owned (US) in 405 and another in 30/40 AI.

Ackley was actually quite surprised how strong the US Krags were during his --

"action destruction" testing.


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Now that's a great piece of work! tu2


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This is a little sporter I found a few years back in a pawn shop. I had to have it follow me home.






I need to do some more work on it to get it shooting better. I added a Rice peep sight to the bolt body, but I need a new front sight to get it to shoot where I want. Right now it is shooting about 6" low at 100 and about 4" right with 180 grain Hornady round nose. I just picked up some casting equipment and I'm going to start casting 200 grain RN bullets for this as well.
 
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This is a little sporter I found a few years back in a pawn shop. I had to have it follow me home.






I need to do some more work on it to get it shooting better. I added a Rice peep sight to the bolt body, but I need a new front sight to get it to shoot where I want. Right now it is shooting about 6" low at 100 and about 4" right with 180 grain Hornady round nose. I just picked up some casting equipment and I'm going to start casting 200 grain RN bullets for this as well.


Very nice- how did you find the Rice peep?

With that rifle one could wander the woods as a gentleman.
 
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I just looked at a custom, pre-WWII. It was in 8x57R, and the magazine box hinged forward. Springfield sling swivels, and I think the stock was from a 98 of some flavor.
Odd looking thing, but well done.

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Sounds like a Danish Krag, org cal. for the Danish Krag is 8x58R (think of a slightly longer 45-70 necked down to 8mm)


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There is nothing wrong with the cartridges 30/40, and 6.5x55 for hunting guns...

I just did not want to get into loading another caliber...


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Ever seen the NRA pattern "Target Modified" stock for a Krag?

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wow nice pictures thank you guy's
 
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My 6.5 x 54MS. I've had some fun with this one.




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My 6.5 x 54MS. I've had some fun with this one.



DANG, son!

Got some history on this for us?
 
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Not a lot of history to share. My uncle bought/used this rifle when he lived in Calgary in the fifties. According to him, he used it to put quite a few moose in the freezer. When I got it the original stock was in horrendous shape with multiple splits and cracks. I had the pictured stock made for it. One thing I deeply regret was that, a couple decades ago, I felt I needed to scope the little rifle. It had a small step or (ridge) at the front of the receiver that precluded the use of the aftermarket mount I bought for it so I applied a belt sander and, in my opinion, ruined the rifle by removing said ridge. Other than that momentary loss of sanity I've treated it pretty well and put a couple deer in the freezer myself. The youngsters (five of them) don't think it's very "cool" so it's been relegated to life behind the seat in Dads (that would be me) pickup.

Still fun to shoot those long 160 gr. round noses though. Big Grin


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tin can,
From the collection of Mr Anonymous.
That's like old harleys, 63 vette, great leather, best whisky you name it. That would be awesome in the gun rack the night before opening day. Sometimes you see something that is just right. This is one of those things!
 
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Ever seen the NRA pattern "Target Modified" stock for a Krag?

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No, do you have a pic to post?


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This is a little sporter I found a few years back in a pawn shop. I had to have it follow me home.








I need to do some more work on it to get it shooting better. I added a Rice peep sight to the bolt body, but I need a new front sight to get it to shoot where I want. Right now it is shooting about 6" low at 100 and about 4" right with 180 grain Hornady round nose. I just picked up some casting equipment and I'm going to start casting 200 grain RN bullets for this as well.


Very nice- how did you find the Rice peep?

With that rifle one could wander the woods as a gentleman.

Sorry I hadn't been following this one but I found the Rice peep sight on Gunbroker.
 
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I have recently had the pleasure of working on a Norwegian Krag a customer contacted me about. It has been a pleasure to work on (kinda). I re barreled the action with a new Shilen barrel chambered in the original 6.5x55. The wood I slightly worked to clean it up.

The owner purchased it when he was child, his father and he walked to the hardware store and purchased it from a barrel of rifles. At the age of 12 he sporterized it. The rifle is honestly a horrible job Smiler But I did my best to clean it up. After working on the rifle I love it! It is at the bluer's right now, when it comes back I will take a few pictures for this thread.


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This thread has caught my intrest. I have a krag action, and now wonder if I could barrel it to 35 winchester? I have dies, made a few cases out of .405 brass seems OK. Hard to tell if it would feed though without a barrel/chamber to at least line things up.
 
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What pressure does the 35 Winchester operate at? I do not know about all Krag actions, but I was taught in school(CST) that US Krag rifles should be kept at around 46,000psi. Now I could be wrong about the number... but I believe that it is correct. I will look it up this evening if you would like.

Feeding could be a bit tricky, depending on the geometry of the case and the length. What kind of Krag action do you have?


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The 35 win is a 45K prssure cartridge, I always thought the Krag was a 42K, but either way, as there is no factory ammo for the 35 win it's whatever level I would choose to load it to. Starting loads, or cast bullet loads would be safe. It was a 30-40 Krag, and the 405, 35 win are all the same basic case as the 30-40 I'm hoping feeding issues would be a minimum.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by theback40:
The 35 win is a 45K prssure cartridge, I always thought the Krag was a 42K, but either way, as there is no factory ammo for the 35 win it's whatever level I would choose to load it to.QUOTE]

You may be correct. I hemmed and hawed about it being 42k or 46k. I will look at my notes tonight.


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I'm only going off memory..... thats not saying much! Wink
 
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We are both correct, in a way. dancing

My list shows that Norwegian/Danish Krags are to be kept under 45k PSI, while US Krags are to be kept below 42k PSI.


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We are both correct, in a way.

Could you talk to my wife and tell her thats possible. Big Grin
Did you see the american rifleman has an article on the Krags this month.
 
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Big Grin If your wife is anything like mine, she will not listen to a word of it!

I did not, I read the article about the mauser and that was it.


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There is an interesting looking Norwegian Krag barreled action in a Fajen mannlicher style stock. You can find it if you sort on "krag mannlicher".

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Let's try this again:

There is an interesting looking sporterized Norwegian Krag in a Fajen mannlicher style stock on GunBroker. The auction # is 191591719 or sort on "krag mannlicher".

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Big Grin Take two... I do the same thing all too often!

I saw that one. $375 may be a fair price, I just cannot see paying that much for an action that I am going to strip and rebuild. mannlicher style stocks just never struck my fancy.


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Thanks for the great pics. My dad used a 30-40 as a hunting rifle long before I was born. He sold it to get a model 70 30-06, still before I was born. I have never seen a 30-40 krag before. Thanks,
 
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a/k/a/ MK Benenson. I have a Krag .35WCF. Am traveling do not have access to my computer files but will write from memory. About 15 years ago, done by one of the top reborers. Magazine was ground out as much as possible at both ends but is still too short for factory ammo. Must handload 225 grain bullets or trim .06 off 250 grain nose. Otherwise works through the magazine. IMO .35 WCF factory pressure is too hot for the Krag so had it altered so safety lug bears on receiver "bridge" like a Norwegian. Can be done by welding up and trimming safety lug, welding up and trimming face of "bridge", or cutting back rear face of safety lug. First method is preferable as bolta are in good supply and trimming back rear of safety lug can spoil hardened surface. Have had this done on several Krags, including a .405 WCF - which by the way works through unaltered magazine. Will say that the .35 is a hard kicker.
 
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Nice looking Krags! I got a chance to check one at the a cousin of mine brought to the range, still in it's original configuration. They're a bit different in their design, but seems like they work.


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Here are my two Krags. The top rifle I've had a while. It appears to be one of the gov't sporters for the NRA, but that is just a guess on my part. I've taken a hog, and one deer with it so far.

The rifle below was given to me this year by my brother who inherited a large collection. He knows my love for krags so he gave it to me. The butt pad is marked New Orleans Arms Corp which is now defunk. It appears to have a new springfield barrel in mint shape. The swivels are tiny, I can't imagne what kind of sling it took. It came with express type sights with a Lyman front sight. I decided to add the scope as the comb of the stock was made for one.

Sorry about the poor photo.

 
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Tin can; How long have you been with the Ar Forum? You should know,by now, that you need a minimum of a 375 Rum (378 Weatherby would be better) with PREMIUM bullets to hunt moose. Just ask around to the experts.
 
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Krag gets some work.

 
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Tin can; How long have you been with the Ar Forum? You should know,by now, that you need a minimum of a 375 Rum (378 Weatherby would be better) with PREMIUM bullets to hunt moose. Just ask around to the experts.


gotta be out of a controlled feeder, too.

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