Which do you like better? Pros and cons??

I don't like the cheap plastic stock on either, would most likely replace the Vaguard stock with a 22oz high tech or a McMillan on the Remington. To me, the Vanguard action does feel smoother. Plus I like the fact it holds 5 down. But which would be the better shooter? Which has the better trigger?

Such a wide open question. I've shot my friends Remmy but it was semi custom so of course it shot and handled well... I am a Weatherby fan (don't flame me guys) but it does come down to what feels right to you.. My normal "go to" rifle is a Ruger 77 in 30-06 which fairly well maintains close to MOA at 100 yrds with factory ammo... All of this simply says you pick the one that works for you...

The Vanguard synthetic stocks are like most other "affordable" tupperware pieces, in other words, could be better... On the other hand the Sub-MOA Vanguards stocks are much better... The trigger is adjustable but if it's set just a bit to light the safety becomes an issue...

Just my two cents for what it's worth...

Ken....

Rem triggers are adjustable for let-off. I don't think they are for travel. But Rem. says "don't adjust." It's a liability issue.

Not sure about the Weatherby leade, but in the Rem. the throat is way deep, to keep the bullet from engaging the lands and creating back pressures. This affects accuracy. Seems like on a Rem. 700 (I had a PSS.) they'd come up with a decent throat -- but you know about the legal dept. in the big corporations.

I just scored a Vanguard, 30-06 (Leupold scope), at a pawn shop. Background check got delayed (buying out of state). I get it Friday. Friday PM, I'll be on the bench. By dark I'll have a full report.

-- Tupperware stocks. Yeah, but you know, I worry not at all about them when I'm out in the woods. Plasic works well for a "truck gun."

Go with the Remington. The advantage to the Remington is there are so many more accuracy enhancements available. The triggers can be safely taken down to one pound of pull. The Vanguard is made by Howa of Japan. The fact that it holds five is almost meaningless in the field. How many animals did you ever get five shot at?

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Originally posted by mark65x55:
Which do you like better? Pros and cons??

I don't like the cheap plastic stock on either, would most likely replace the Vaguard stock with a 22oz high tech or a McMillan on the Remington. To me, the Vanguard action does feel smoother. Plus I like the fact it holds 5 down. But which would be the better shooter? Which has the better trigger?

I have a SPS in 30-06 it is my one and only " plastic fanstastic" Don't get me wrong I love wood but I hate to mark it up and I always do. The trigger was typical and let off at about 27 tons once it was adjusted it became a decent trigger for a hunting rifle and I have no complaints. I did spend a fair bit of time working up loads to find what it would shoot. 180's and 200's give me excllent groups out to 300 yards. I tried many 150-165 loads that are known as accuracy loads with no luck.

I am quite happy with it for a general purpose rifle at a moderate price. It ain't perfect but it sure does work and I don't have to worry about marking it up.

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I don't think they are for travel.

You can adjust the creep, over travel, and tension on the Rem trigger very easily and safely. It can be adjusted for quite a nice trigger pull as far as hunting rifles go.

I'd personally go for the Rem, it has a better resale around here and would be better for a build later on as well.

IMO you'll have a better chance at accuracy w/ the Rem as well.

Good Luck w/ your decision

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