For information to those hunters interested in getting GS Custom HV's -

I ordered via their web site on 19 September 2005 both 130gr .308 and 7mm RemMag GSC HV's.
They mailed total order on 21 October 2005 and after 2000kms via snail-mail I received them on 28 October 2005.

Visit their website and get yourself some of these premium bullets.

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Jagter,

Do you live across the street from them?



The twins.

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Personally I think and wish Gerard would get an import agent and send product over in bulk with the correct import documentation, cause the current system of labeling them as "parts" will only work untill customs actually open a package. And they do ! I have had all sorts of packages opened and then there is a little notice placed that they have inspected the package.

Even better translocate his factory to the USA, I know of some others who have done that and have been extremely successful. The exposure to a huge shooting market is worth the effort.

AMEN ALF!

I wish he would put his CNC machines in a container on a freighter and move over here.

lawndart

I won't order any until they are being shipped from the US. I just don't have the patience to wait and have them disappear in transit. GS seems like a great guy and he has answered my questions in a knowledgeable way. I will use the TSX and others until the shipper is in the US. Packy

Alf:

Why don't you take it up with Gerard himself? He is a very reasonable and highly intelligent man and would certainly be willing to listen to your ideas.
Seeing that you are in Canada you could be of some help in the distribution of his premium bullets - just me speculating!

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Even better translocate his factory to the USA ....

. As for this part, I doubt it very much. Gerard is a South African with his roots firmly fixed in this country. Not all trees are so easily transplantable, you know!

Savage99:
Unfortunately 2000kms away! Furthermore I'm old enough to be their father. Beautiful SA girls they are!

packrattusnongratus:
The following is said about a good equity investor:

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“Patience is a crucial but rare investment commodity†– David Dreman.

I think one can say the same about a good hunter!

Follow my example: I ordered bullets shortly after the 2005 SA hunting season expired. Thus roughly about 6 months before the next biltong hunts would start again.
Why? I WANT GSC HV's!!!

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Guys, hold on. Gerard is working on it. I haven't had an update lately, but a process to ship directly from inventory in the US has been in the works for 'bout a year.

Paperwork through the BATF has been the limiting factor, if I understand correctly. FWIW, Dutch.

Alf,

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the current system of labeling them as "parts" will only work untill customs actually open a package.

We label the packages as "Machined Parts" to avoid the attention of the tree huggers in the system. Parcels from us have been opened, inspected and forwarded with no trouble because we also add the correct customs tariff number to the parcel. Any customs official will be able to see that the tariff number, contents and contents description actually correspond.

Globally, small parcels that are delivered by mail are not subject to import permits or unusual restrictions, unless the value exceeds a certain amount per parcel and providing the tariff number is present and truthful. Where an order exceeds the stipulated maximums allowed that we are aware of, we inform the buyer on the correct procedure to follow for their country. Buying a couple of hundred bullets in several calibres for personal use is not a problem in most western countries.

Over the last 12 months, we have had a much smaller percentage of parcels going astray in global mail, than what is lost in domestic mail in the USA. In the USA, the stats say that you have a better chance of getting our package, than the one from the town down the road. This was not the case for the better part of two years after 911.

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Even better translocate his factory to the USA

At the moment, the price of copper, labour, machine maintenance, factory space and housing is too high in the USA. The gap is slowly closing though.

My past 2 GSC orders were delivered very promptly, and I now hoard the bullets very greedily.

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As Canadians may not hunt locally with solids of any kind the market for FN's is small.

Alf,

I agree with your comments about the lack of a market in Canada. I've wondered a bit about the statement I quoted above, however. I have made the same assumption, but in reading the regulation it appears to me that the ban is on "full metal jacketed bullets". It doesn't say "mono-metal solids" or "non-expanding" bullets. Clearly that is the intent, but maybe there is a loophole???

Cheers,
Canuck

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As for this part, I doubt it very much. Gerard is a South African with his roots firmly fixed in this country. Not all trees are so easily transplantable, you know!

Mbeki is getting the tree uprooting machine tuned up and filled with petrol as we speak.

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At the moment, the price of copper, labour, machine maintenance, factory space and housing is too high in the USA. The gap is slowly closing though.

I don't know about the USA, but costs are low in Idaho.


lawndart

Gerard you could move it all to Wyoming, and be in Glenrock the gunmaking capitol of the west. Of course you won't be able to shoot 25 springbok to test bullets on at $50 each.

Canuck,
Please e-mail me your new postal address, I have some bits to send to you. Do you have the actual wording of the Canadian law? In the UK laws there are some very useful loopholes so maybe we should look at yours as well?

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Of course you won't be able to shoot 25 springbok to test bullets on at $50 each.

The last couple of dozen Springbuck we shot with HVs only cost us around $2.69 apiece. We paid R200.00 per animal and recovered R182.00 per carcass on the venison. (R18.00/6.70=$2.69) The same excercise with jacketed lead bullets used for comparison (53 animals) resulted in an average recovery of R143.00 per carcass. Shot for shot, HVs are cheaper than jacketed lead bullets. On blesbuck we actually make some profit when we use HVs.

Wyoming, Idaho....? Where is the tornado belt that is so much talked about?

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Mbeki is getting the tree uprooting machine tuned up and filled with petrol as we speak.

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Originally posted by Gerard:

Wyoming, Idaho....? Where is the tornado belt that is so much talked about?

Gerard,
I grew up in Tornado Alley, and moved west as soon as family obligations would allow.

In Glenrock, Wyoming they don't have a wind gauge at the weather station. The last five blew away and there is no money to replace them anymore.

Boise, Idaho is called "the city of trees". We have hard-headed and contentious Basque women. It is like being surrounded by Boers.

Heck, you can just do wat Warren Jensen did: get an economic development grant to expand your bullet making business! As a matter of fact, I'll just bet they would entertain somewhat reasonable offers, right about now......

Gotta love rural Idaho. Property is still cheap, and wages are low, and the earthquakes aren't really THAT big.... LOL! Dutch.

Earthquakes??!!

OK so what else are you guys hiding over there. We know about the hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes now. Where do you keep the volcanoes and the major floods and which are the states that burn to the ground regularly?

We have been having some fire trouble in the Eastern Cape for the last week, especially the coastal areas from the Garden Route and east along the coast to Port Elizabeth.

28 October
1 November
2 November
4 hours ago

Well, if you want to call the '83 Borah tremor a quake (it was just an itty-bitty 7.0 or so....).

What else? Geez, other than small things like 100,000 hectare forest fires (2001); the occasional dam break with associated flood (Teton dam in the '70's); a little caldera under 'ole Yellowstone National Park, the only thing we really get worked up about is during the summer time. The worst scourge in the world: tourists from California.

I can handle the natural disasters, but Lord save us from all the do-gooder 'coasters......

Dutch.

Jagter I am waiting.....patiently. Packy.

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OK so what else are you guys hiding over there.

Well Gerard,

We do have a few liberals that live in a small enclave on the north side of Boise. We also have some limousine liberals and a few movie actors in Sun Valley, Idaho.

The fires mainly burn the homes of people who feel compelled to live up in the mountains instead of living in the river valleys and visiting the mountains to fish, hunt and ski.

When the jack rabbit population gets too big we like to get a really big circle of people together and club them all. Unfortunately the last jackrabbit population boom was back in the early 1980's. It is like clubbing baby harp seals except you don't have to wear a coat or worry about the slushy ice making your feet wet. The best part is when the animal "rights" people and the news media show up (usually they come in on the same bus). All the local eight year old kids vie to be the one who's photograph lands on page one of the New York Times.

The Californians are ok. They usually have money, and their women don't wear bras. The whole time the civilized California guy is looking down his nose at us, his woman is sneaking off with one of us to see what sex with a Neanderthal is really like .

We have wolves also. They howl all night and eat the game animals. Barnes bullets makes a spitzer solid for that though. One through the gut and they usually go 3-4 miles before they stiffen up and die (far from any ballistic "footprint"). I have only bird hunt lately so I don't know that first hand, of course.

We do have some bureaucrats from Washington, DC that come out on occaision. They travel in large packs, but usually don't get too far away from the comforts of Boise. If we show them what an honest day of work looks like they usually run away crying for their mama.

The welfare system in Idaho is not very generous, so the population demographics are different than what you would find in say, Chicago or Washington, DC. The cold weather in the winter and/or the altitude may also play a role.....

The shepherds get cozy with their sheep in the high country, but that is a worldwide phenomenon (if I read the medical literature correctly).

Anyway, that is our little slice of heaven on earth called Idaho.

lawndart

Packy:

Follow all the manufacturer's loading and other (twist rate) instructions and your patience will be fully rewarded with the excellent bullet performance results.