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Has any one seen or handled the new Sako Bavarian in 9.3 x 62, I am looking at getting one.
 
Posts: 24 | Location: Australia | Registered: 22 December 2007Reply With Quote
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I had not heard of the bavarian model. What are they going for? I've been looking to add a 30-06.


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Teat Hound, they are selling for $2300aus in Australia
 
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Bavarian model Sako, picture, specs., calibers available can be seen at the following:
feniks.odessa.ua/new/images/stories/files/sako2007/85bavarian.pdf

No prices were given in this information. Looks like a really neat set up and is available in 9.3 X 62 with sights, what could be better?

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Is it available in the US? Some models/calibers are for European, Canadian, Australian, etc., distribution only. I am an avid Sako collector, however I never had much interest in the 75 or 85, but I sure would like a Bavarian in 9.3x62. Lou


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The Bavarian is awesome but, sadly, not offered in the U.S. Had heard that Beretta might be willing to special order some at a minimum of six rifles.
 
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I checked with Beretta some time ago about them. They had no interest in importing them, even in quantity.

I guess they would prefer that you buy one of the WSM sightless models that they believe you really want.
 
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I guess they would prefer that you buy one of the WSM sightless models that they believe you really want.


I think you're correct. I'd really love to have a SAKO, and a Bavarian would be great, but I have no desire for a WSM. That stock, and equipped with the sights, would be a perfect '06 to me. The 9.3 is very nice too.

I lived for two years in Bamberg, West Germany (aka Bavaria), when I was in the Army back in the late 80s. I couldn't think of a better way to remember my time there. Think the wife would buy that excuse for a new rifle? Oh well, maybe it is better not to tell her Big Grin


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Both the Bavarian and the 9.3 make a great combo. thumb
 
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Good region for: car, beer and cuckoo clock manufacture, but rifle design/style can be acquired taste to say the least. Lets see some picks of this "goblin gun"..... Confused
It's made in Finland under Italian fist so it's probably not the 'Gothic' thing I expect to see. popcorn
 
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Lets see some picks of this "goblin gun"..... Confused

http://www.sako.fi/sako85_bavarian.php?m=1
 
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if it looks that good in person, I believe they would sell an awful lot of them here in 9,3x62.

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That looks like lovely piece with just a tinge of German influence. Sadly now best samples seem to grace pages of catalogs. Just look at the current CZ USA publication with most rifles having nice wood. Most of std. production pieces sold to JoeAvg are stocked in sapwood which tends to split when subjected to heavy recoil forces. Roll Eyes
The wood on my CZ550 FS is just a notch above that of .22 Glenfied I used to own as a kid.
Hey, remember those early Ruger No 1s and Red Labels with black receivers. Many had goregous feathering near them butts, oh baaaaby!
 
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That looks like lovely piece with just a tinge of German influence. Sadly now best samples seem to grace pages of catalogs. Just look at the current CZ USA publication with most rifles having nice wood. Most of std. production pieces sold to JoeAvg are stocked in sapwood which tends to split when subjected to heavy recoil forces. Roll Eyes
The wood on my CZ550 FS is just a notch above that of .22 Glenfied I used to own as a kid.
Hey, remember those early Ruger No 1s and Red Labels with black receivers. Many had goregous feathering near them butts, oh baaaaby!


Hey, I'm suppose to be the only grouch around here. On many CZ stocks made from Turkish walnut if you take off the finish some beautiful wood exists.

If you don't like CZ's in general, show me an equivalent for the same money. Good luck with that.


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If you don't like CZ's in general, show me an equivalent for the same money. Good luck with that.


IMO, you'll be ahead if you buy Ruger, Remington, Savage or their ilk. Personally I don't care for any of them. They're all functional, they just don't float my boat. Life's too short to buy ugly rifles. Big Grin Lou


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I think the m85 Bavarian is the best looking rifle Sako have produced in a very long time.

But then my taste in rifles is decidedly germanic, I would not thank you for a rifle with the classic straight comb.


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If you don't like CZ's in general, show me an equivalent for the same money. Good luck with that.


IMO, you'll be ahead if you buy Ruger, Remington, Savage or their ilk. Personally I don't care for any of them. They're all functional, they just don't float my boat. Life's too short to buy ugly rifles. Big Grin Lou

The only thing nicer in same price range is Zbrojovka Brno made on VZ 24 Mauser action, but I have not seen one in several years. They were imported in the past by some outfit in CA.
The only nice stocks on std. production CZs seem to be found on their rimfire bolt rifles. Frowner
 
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Dr Lou,

not to be cross or anything, but; CZ caters to the big bore market like nobody else seems able to.
404 and 500 Jeffery, 505 Gibbs, RNS's 550 Magnum from their custom shop and the 300 H&H. For under a grand: 375 H&H, 416 Rigby, 458 WM and Lott; that's more than the rest combined.

Huzzah!

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That bavarian sako is very prety,
I would prefer a banded front sight and a little higer comb for scope shooting.
As for the CZ thing , I think they are prety hard to beat for the money, But I think they need to build a real short action, and make a standard trigger version available.
Why in the world would you want a set trigger on a 9.3X62 , or on any dangerous game rifle.
But For what they cost the CZ 550 flat out shoots.
With the new stock they are prety darn cool.
I would love to have a 550 in 9.3X62 set up like an english stocking rifle,
Put a timney trigger AHR 3 position safty
A set of negc sights barrel band sling swivel,
and you have a great rifle ! Perfect for anything short of the Big five out to 250 yards.
Including a big bad grizz !
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Wow, that 85 Bavarian is beautiful. I want one!

And...
My CZ is a decent gun for the money, but its not a Sako.
 
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We will never seen that gun in North America, the Italians that own Sako and the Finns that build the rifles don't understand what we will buy.

If they did they wouldn't change the Sako design every year.
 
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We will never seen that gun in North America, the Italians that own Sako and the Finns that build the rifles don't understand what we will buy.

If they did they wouldn't change the Sako design every year.


D99,

An interesting and, unfortunately, accurate statement. I wonder why the disconnect is so great?
 
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I'm not going to trade in my CZ 550FS 9.3X62 for one, but that SAKO is a really nice looking rifle.
 
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About 4 years ago I purchased a
Steyr- Mannlicher in 9.3x62. Maybe a 90s gun looking very much like the Bavarian and shoots 1 1/2" with factory.

Also found a Steyr Forester in 9.3x62. Its much like a Rem CDL with a straight stock and no sights; CZ American.
 
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I love the hogsback Bavarian style stock, and I want a Sako Bavarian in 9.3x62 really, really bad.
 
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I realy like the Sako Bavarian in 9.3x62. That wood looked great. Much better that what they are using on the Hunters.
To me to wood on Hunters is no better than on th CZ 550s. And you can buy two 550s for what 1 Hunter cost.
But I could be talked into a Bavarian.
 
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Idaho, I fully agree with you. Ruger has also chambered their #1 in some interesting cartridges. It's just that I haven't been overly impressed with CZ's final product, especially the extended magazines on their varmint rifles. CZ rifles just feel big and awkward, and aesthetically, they don't float my boat. Lou


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Did anyone note that the Barvarian in 9.3x62 comes with a 1 in 14" twist. Should be too slow for the TXS's and the downunder 320's.
 
Posts: 538 | Location: North of LA, Peoples Rep. of Calif | Registered: 27 November 2004Reply With Quote
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Did anyone note that the Barvarian in 9.3x62 comes with a 1 in 14" twist. Should be too slow for the TXS's and the downunder 320's.


1:14 seems to be a common twist rate for the 9.3x62. Blaser make their barrels in 1:360mm (1:14.2).

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The Sako Bavarian, (like the CZ 550) is fitted with a set trigger.
 
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What twist rate is needed , for 300-320grain pills ???????, if not 1:14" twist.
 
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I love it! Very pretty rifle.


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I see chamberings of 260Rem, 7-08, and 338Federal .Have these become popular in Europe ?
 
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the rilfes i have seen that the wood stocks, in person, match catolog pics are steyrs.
 
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I see chamberings of 260Rem, 7-08, and 338Federal .Have these become popular in Europe ?

Few and far between in Central Continental Europe.

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I see chamberings of 260Rem, 7-08, and 338Federal .Have these become popular in Europe ?


The 7-08 is fairly popular in France, especially among target shooters, since the 308W is partially restricted, due to a stupid gun law.
 
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I have been a SAKO fan for many years.
Unfortunately, since Beretta took over SAKO, traditional SAKO quality of workmanship has gone down the drain bit by bit. The Italians are probably only interested in making lots of €€€€.
I was also impressed by the looks of the Bavarian style SAKO, which is offered over here by Manfred Alberts, the German importer of Beretta.

When I ordered one at a local gundealer and went to pick it up, i could not believe my eyes, poor, stained, open grained wood, a really rough bolt action and an overall finish that looked like it was completed with 100 grit sandpaper and a rough file.

I dind't take the gun of course and it went back to the importer.

This yeat I was at the German Jagd und Hund exhibition in Dortmund. I took another look at the Sako's. The standard wood was still cheap, but now the berreled actions are glass pearl bead blasted before blueing. This looks good when new but is easily blemished when touching hard surfaces, showing shiny blemishes.

Over here we have to pay at least € 1500 for a blued SAKO and € 1700 for a stainless version, which would be around $ 2500,00-€ 2800,00

Instead I bought a HOWA stainless steel in a B&C Medalist stock for € 850, which is half price!

Accuracy and handling qualities are as good as any SAKO and appearance is far more better!
 
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What twist rate is needed , for 300-320grain pills ???????, if not 1:14" twist.


If you haven't seen this already, try this page for some info.
Bullet info.
I looked this up for some 310 grain Woodleighs in a 258 Norma & was surprised as to how slow a twist I could go, I would tend to go a bit quicker to ensure stability inside the animal as far as possible.
Steve.
 
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